Game 108, Rangers at Mariners

Dave · August 4, 2010 at 3:45 pm · Filed Under Mariners 

Fister vs Wilson, 7:10 pm.

In something that kind of qualifies as news, the M’s sent Mike Sweeney to Philadelphia today. The team is basically just doing him a favor, giving him a chance to finish the year with a contender and potentially get his first taste of playoff baseball. He wasn’t going to get much playing time in Seattle the rest of the way anyway. We’ll see how long he can stay healthy in Philly, given that they are apparently expecting him to play first base on a regular basis.

As for tonight’s game, opposing left-handed hitters have managed a paltry .090/.157/.120 line against C.J. Wilson this year. That’s 100 plate appearances, with the total positive results being six singles, three doubles, five walks, three hit batters, and two reached on errors. The other 81 hitters made outs. The Mariners are starting four left-handed hitters tonight. This isn’t going to go well.

Ichiro, RF
Figgins, 2B
Kotchman, 1B
Gutierrez, CF
Branyan, DH
Lopez, 3B
Saunders, LF
Moore, C
Jack Wilson, SS

Comments

56 Responses to “Game 108, Rangers at Mariners”

  1. Jay Yencich on August 4th, 2010 3:53 pm

    We are now complaining that the Mariners are too left-handed.

  2. Grizz on August 4th, 2010 4:04 pm

    We are now complaining that the Mariners are too left-handed.

    Progress!

  3. Nate on August 4th, 2010 4:07 pm

    At this point, I’m convinced it wouldn’t go well if we had 9 switch hitters in the lineup.

  4. rcc on August 4th, 2010 4:08 pm

    The M’s will try to win two in a row without “valuable” clubhouse presence Mike Sweeney. He was traded for a bucket of balls today to the Phillies.

    So how many wins does a nice clubhouse translate into each year? Are the M’s now doomed to an unsuccessful year because their two “valuable” clubhouse guys, Griffey and Sweeney are now gone?

    Wait a minute…didn’t this season go into the dumper while both of these savy veterans were on hand….how could I forget their presence so easily?

  5. Patrick on August 4th, 2010 4:11 pm

    I wish Sweeney good luck and hopefully he’ll get a ring in Philly.

  6. Mike Snow on August 4th, 2010 4:16 pm

    Actually, looking at the Phillies’ roster, you know who should be playing first base? Raul Ibanez.

  7. SeasonTix on August 4th, 2010 4:34 pm

    Good luck to Sweeney.

    He truly is a good guy, great work ethic and it’s not his fault that he made the M’s by default.

    He worked hard and I’d love to see him at least get a taste of the playoffs this year.

    BTW, I am rooting for Texas to win it all. Cliff Lee is another great guy and I’d love to see him knock off the Yankees again.

    As for the M’s tonight, I’ve got other stuff to do.

  8. Westside guy on August 4th, 2010 4:39 pm

    Most of us didn’t see the point in Sweeney coming here – but I wish him the best in Philly.

    It is a bit surprising that a non-AL team wanted him, though, given his health history. I figured if anyone wanted him it’d be for a part-time right-handed DH – much like the role he filled with the Mariners.

  9. Dave Spiwak on August 4th, 2010 4:46 pm

    A lot could depend on whether Wilson has his gyroball working tonight. WSJ says M’s have a 47% chance of winning!

  10. Dave Spiwak on August 4th, 2010 4:49 pm

    I’m wondering if Sweeney gets to fill in on Subway commercials as well? I wouldn’t mind seeing Jared get a pie in the face!

  11. Mike Snow on August 4th, 2010 4:49 pm

    NL teams actually use marginal bat-only players more effectively than AL teams, which only have a single dedicated DH position. In the NL, the constant need for pinch-hitters has provided careers for other Mariner castoffs like Greg Dobbs and Mike Morse. And in Sweeney’s case, I’d almost go so far as to say his back might be better off hitting only once in a game, instead of four or five times.

  12. kenshabby on August 4th, 2010 5:01 pm

    Dear lord, why couldn’t they have waited just one more day to trade Sweeney? Think of all the damage he could do as part of tonight’s lineup!

  13. Dave Spiwak on August 4th, 2010 5:28 pm

    Dear lord, why couldn’t they have waited just one more day to trade Sweeney? Think of all the damage he could do as part of tonight’s lineup!

    Risk of injury! He could slip on some shaving cream. A bucket of balls ain’t cheap!

  14. Breadbaker on August 4th, 2010 5:38 pm

    I’d just like to point out that the right handed hitters in tonight’s lineup don’t exactly scare C.J. Wilson either.

  15. Mathball on August 4th, 2010 5:41 pm

    Sweeney to Philly, now the Cliff Lee trade makes sense for Philly.

  16. GripS on August 4th, 2010 6:36 pm

    Even the great ones have bad days. Let’s pray for a bad day for CJ.

  17. G-Man on August 4th, 2010 6:44 pm

    Sweeney to Philly, now the Cliff Lee trade makes sense for Philly.

    RDF.

  18. Swungonandbelted on August 4th, 2010 6:48 pm

    Oh noes, all of the hugs have left the clubhouse, what will happen to Team Chemistry now??!

    On another note, I did get a chuckle out of the ESPN headline “Phillies acquire slugger Sweeney from Mariners”

    Slugger…..??! .263 with 6 HR and 18 RBI in 30 games…… granted, he takes the M’s second highest BA with him, and his HR total is tied for 6th on the team…but slugger?

  19. greentunic on August 4th, 2010 6:50 pm

    He is a mamoth slugger! We should get Dominic Brown for him!

  20. Oolon on August 4th, 2010 7:13 pm

    So how many wins does a nice clubhouse translate into each year? Are the M’s now doomed to an unsuccessful year because their two “valuable” clubhouse guys, Griffey and Sweeney are now gone?

    Mariner record through June 1 (Griffey retired on 6/2): 20-31 .392

    Mariner record from June 2 through yesterday: 20-36 .357

    .392 season would be 63.5 wins
    .357 season would be 57.8 wins

    Difference is 5.7 wins.

  21. don52656 on August 4th, 2010 7:13 pm

    Isn’t anyone going to say anything about the fact that Lopez isn’t batting cleanup?

  22. lalo on August 4th, 2010 7:18 pm

    Isn’t anyone going to say anything about the fact that Lopez isn’t batting cleaunup?

    That’s good, but the only reason is that coming from the disabled list, Wak is obsessed with him, and next week will be the cleanup hitter again

  23. Breadbaker on August 4th, 2010 7:21 pm

    Mariner record through June 1 (Griffey retired on 6/2): 20-31 .392
    Mariner record from June 2 through yesterday: 20-36 .357
    .392 season would be 63.5 wins
    .357 season would be 57.8 wins
    Difference is 5.7 wins.

    I hope you’re being sarcastic.

  24. Oolon on August 4th, 2010 7:24 pm

    Slugger…..??! .263 with 6 HR and 18 RBI in 30 games…… granted, he takes the M’s second highest BA with him, and his HR total is tied for 6th on the team…but slugger?

    He also takes the team’s highest OPS – .802. Sadly, he was as close to a “slugger” as this team had this year.

  25. scott19 on August 4th, 2010 7:28 pm

    I’m wondering if Sweeney gets to fill in on Subway commercials as well? I wouldn’t mind seeing Jared get a pie in the face!

    That would be quite amusing, indeed!

  26. juneau_fan on August 4th, 2010 7:29 pm

    They have to score here. It goes without saying…and no.

  27. Oolon on August 4th, 2010 7:29 pm

    I hope you’re being sarcastic.

    And I hope you believe in numbers rather parroting belief systems about clubhouse chemistry being meaningless. Show me the numbers that the Mariners have been a better team without Griffey.

  28. EthanN on August 4th, 2010 7:32 pm

    Muahaha. They move Lopez down and he still coming up in crucial RBI moments.

  29. juneau_fan on August 4th, 2010 7:33 pm

    I was just thinking that, Ethan.

  30. juneau_fan on August 4th, 2010 7:34 pm

    He’s so going back up the cleanup spot tomorrow.

  31. EthanN on August 4th, 2010 7:37 pm

    Wow, who are these guys that are actually trying to work the pitcher?

  32. lalo on August 4th, 2010 8:00 pm

    Great AB by Kotch

  33. Swungonandbelted on August 4th, 2010 8:02 pm

    Grinding down the pitcher in the second inning? Getting to the bullpen early? WTF??!

  34. Lauren, token chick on August 4th, 2010 8:07 pm

    Weird. I was pretty sure my Mariners affection was close to dead, only revivable by, say, a new season. But here I am watching again.

    The answer is the Romans, Dave and whoever.

  35. Lauren, token chick on August 4th, 2010 8:08 pm

    (Because of Sirius, the dog star, yadda yadda.)

  36. greentunic on August 4th, 2010 8:18 pm

    Did Dave just start coughing during that call?

  37. RickMirerManiac on August 4th, 2010 8:18 pm

    Give me Moore!

  38. Swungonandbelted on August 4th, 2010 8:21 pm

    Theeeeeeeeeeeeeeere are the M’s……..

  39. Breadbaker on August 4th, 2010 8:23 pm

    Show me the numbers that the Mariners have been a better team without Griffey.

    1. The Mariners schedule was far easier when Griffey was with the club than it has been since.
    2. The Mariners have made about a million other roster changes since Griffey left.
    3. If you don’t understand what a small sample size is, then I can’t help you.

  40. MattThompson on August 4th, 2010 8:24 pm

    And I hope you believe in numbers rather parroting belief systems about clubhouse chemistry being meaningless. Show me the numbers that the Mariners have been a better team without Griffey.

    Correlation does not equal causation.

  41. EthanN on August 4th, 2010 8:41 pm

    lol if you think the Mariners were a better team when Griffey was on it, you must not have been watching the beginning of the season. They aren’t better without him, but they are definitely not worse…

  42. Breadbaker on August 4th, 2010 8:53 pm

    Flying Things: Dead.

  43. Carson on August 4th, 2010 8:54 pm

    Death to Flying Things!

    Excellent catch!

  44. pgreyy on August 4th, 2010 8:55 pm

    I think what’s missing is a specific metric to determine what’s happened post-Griffey.

    (Hugs + On-Field Contributions) x (Team Win Percentage – Percentage of Calls Decrying Teams Utter Hopelessness in Post-Game Radio Call-In Shows) compared to 1995 levels = Griffey Factor (or GF)

    …but I’ll let other number crunchers do the math… :)

    (I’m too busy enjoying the simple pleasure of watching a Mariners game that we look like we’re a major league club with a puncher’s chance of winning an occasional game.)

  45. pgreyy on August 4th, 2010 8:56 pm

    …spoke too soon.

    GF plummeting!

  46. Breadbaker on August 4th, 2010 8:57 pm

    Nice way to deal with a three-run lead, Fister.

  47. Diehard on August 4th, 2010 8:58 pm

    Wow Fister just took it all at once. Ouch
    Way to ruin a rear lead Fister!

  48. xeifrank on August 4th, 2010 8:58 pm

    Major strategy fail on Murphy there (that and bad luck).
    vr, Xei

  49. Edgar4Hall on August 4th, 2010 9:02 pm

    I can’t believe there isn’t more celebration going on about Moore’s HR! Hopefully he can get on a roll and make Wak Forget about Rojo in AAA.

    Damn. I’m a big Fister fan but Jesus H. Christ!

  50. Oly Dave on August 4th, 2010 9:16 pm

    Mariner record through June 1 (Griffey retired on 6/2): 20-31 .392

    Mariner record from June 2 through yesterday: 20-36 .357

    .392 season would be 63.5 wins
    .357 season would be 57.8 wins

    Difference is 5.7 wins.

    Mariner record through May 2: 11-14 .440
    Mariner record from May 3rd through yesterday:
    29-53 .353

    .440 season would be 71.3 wins
    .353 season would be 57.2 wins

    Difference is 14.1 wins

    Clearly releasing Eric Byrnes was a mistake. Show me the numbers that the Mariners have been a better team without Byrnes.

  51. henryv on August 4th, 2010 9:43 pm

    This game is terrible.

    Slow.
    Small strike zone.
    One team basically a AAA team.

    And Garrett Olson on the mound.

    And Lopez screwing up.

  52. juneau_fan on August 4th, 2010 9:44 pm

    God, this team is depressing.

  53. henryv on August 4th, 2010 9:44 pm

    ha ha ha.

    Can we release Lopez now?

  54. henryv on August 4th, 2010 9:45 pm

    Garrett Olson is so bad his pitches don’t even show up on pitch FX.

  55. pgreyy on August 4th, 2010 9:45 pm

    Oooooof.

  56. Kazinski on August 4th, 2010 10:23 pm

    God, this team is depressing.

    Hard to argue with you there, but there are a few things we’ve seen tonight that we haven’t seen much of all season, a HR from a Catcher, and 3 2-out RBI’s.

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