Game 112, Royals at Mariners

Jay Yencich · August 8, 2010 at 11:48 am · Filed Under Game Threads, Mariners 

RF Ichiro!
2B Figgins
1B Kotchman
DH Branyan
CF Gutierrez
3B Lopez
C Bard
LF Langerhans
SS Jo. Wilson

The repeat of Friday’s lineup last night yielded one of the most boring games in recent memory. This one has Saunders still out and Bard taking over for Moore, because Moore’s stiff back is apparently worse than Bard’s stiff neck.

The news for today is that Shawn Kelley is out for the rest of the season. Divish says that there was no stress fracture, but exploratory surgery will be needed at the very least, while Larry Stone quotes Wak in saying he could be ready in spring training or he could be out a year. So, Schrödinger’s Elbow basically, and we’re just waiting on the wave function to collapse. Nothing new here, no sir.

More positive news is that Wak, in spite of various managerial flaws, is still kind of cool. This is important for the team going forward.

LHP Jason Vargas vs. RHP Kyle Davies. There’s a non-zero chance we could win this one.

Comments

72 Responses to “Game 112, Royals at Mariners”

  1. illdonk on August 8th, 2010 11:56 am

    Brandon Morrow. Holy crap.

  2. jordan on August 8th, 2010 12:02 pm

    Brandon Morrow. Yeah.

  3. Jay Yencich on August 8th, 2010 12:03 pm

    Hold on I’m going to cry or throw up or something. Maybe both. Haven’t decided yet.

  4. EthanN on August 8th, 2010 12:05 pm

    Cheering big time for Morrow right now.

  5. MariLOLs on August 8th, 2010 12:06 pm

    Anybody know how to get baseball-reference to spit out runs scored by a team for all teams? The M’s are chasing down the ’83 M’s for least runs scored in a full season (558), but I would like to know how this stacks up against some of the worst teams in the expansion era without manually sifting through every team’s year by year stats.

  6. jordan on August 8th, 2010 12:12 pm

    15th K.

  7. MariLOLs on August 8th, 2010 12:12 pm

    The 558 runs scored by the ’83 M’s is a franchise low, not a league low. Hooray for ambiguous wording.

  8. jordan on August 8th, 2010 12:15 pm

    Morrow has his no hitter through 8 innings with 16Ks. Wow.

  9. joser on August 8th, 2010 12:30 pm

    Yeah, Morrow. Think Z would like a do-over on that trade (given how the season turned out, it’s not like they needed last year’s League, let alone this year’s)

    And yesterday the Jays called up this kid JP Arencibia — he was so unprepared he had to borrow Veron Wells’ batting gloves and Jose Bautista’s bat. Apparently those are some potent bats: he hit a HR on the first major-league pitch he saw. Then he hit another HR. And a single. And a double. Four-for-five, a triple short of the cycle.

    Oh, and he was catching his first major league game too.

    The Jays are a fun team to watch. But they’re fourth in their division (despite being over .500) and hardly anybody is showing up to their home games. Rodgers Center is emptier than Safeco.

  10. EthanN on August 8th, 2010 12:33 pm

    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO :(

  11. illdonk on August 8th, 2010 12:34 pm

    Dang. Dang.

  12. jordan on August 8th, 2010 12:34 pm

    Whoa… lost it with one out to go to Evan Longoria.

  13. Westside guy on August 8th, 2010 12:35 pm

    Good for Morrow!

    But don’t forget the whole “small sample size” thing either. He pitched brilliantly for us for at least one game too.

  14. illdonk on August 8th, 2010 12:35 pm

    Toronto’s probably the unluckiest team in baseball in terms of their division. They’d be pretty strong contenders in the Central or West, but they’re not overtaking the Yankees/Sox/Rays any time soon.

  15. joser on August 8th, 2010 12:35 pm

    Well, no shame in that. If Toronto had real grass instead of the plastic Hill probably would’ve been able to make that play.

  16. MariLOLs on August 8th, 2010 12:35 pm

    WOW. Gut-wrenching. Great effort nonetheless.

  17. greentunic on August 8th, 2010 12:35 pm

    Good for Morrow. He went through a lot to get here.

    I do not think it was that bad of a trade for us, even now. While Morrow shows flashes of brilliance, he still is around leage average IMO.

    Starting pitching is not a big problem for us, and League can get us some semi-valuable talent in return this winter. Not only that, but the prospect we got in return is doing pretty well I hear. We tried and tried with Morrow. While I may take it back given the chance, it’s not very one-sided to me.

  18. EthanN on August 8th, 2010 12:37 pm

    Morrow has to be exhausted. He is a fireball pitcher who has thrown 130+ pitches. That is rough.

  19. jordan on August 8th, 2010 12:37 pm

    Haven’t seen the play, but ESPN is making it seem like it could have gone as an error.

  20. joser on August 8th, 2010 12:39 pm

    17K 1-hitter. Yesterday the Jays scored 17 runs.

    Toronto used to have a great rivalry with Detroit back when they were just two divisions and they were both in the AL East. Yet another victim of the divisional realignment.

    There should be four divisions, and one of them should be just the Yankees and Red Sox.

    But don’t forget the whole “small sample size” thing either. He pitched brilliantly for us for at least one game too.

    Yeah, but it’s because he’s wild. When he’s not walking the world he’s a monster. And he may be able to keep that under control more games than not, eventually.

  21. Liam on August 8th, 2010 12:39 pm

    Whew. For a second there I thought the League/Morrow trade was going to look like a complete disaster.

  22. EthanN on August 8th, 2010 12:41 pm

    I was watching the game, it was a base hit. The ball took a weird hop, that’ll happen on Toronto’s field

  23. MX on August 8th, 2010 12:43 pm

    17K for Morrow. Incredible. I think the announcer said it was one K short of franchise record.

  24. joser on August 8th, 2010 12:45 pm

    Greentunic — I agree, and I’m one of the people who has been defending that trade (at least given what we knew, or thought we knew, at the time) though I’m not sure what Z thinks at this point.

    I think Morrow may have been one of those cases where a “fresh start” made all the difference. You see people saying the M’s mis-managed him (starter to reliever and back) but a lot of that was his own doing, trying to cope with his diabetes and trying to stick in the majors. Maybe he could’ve blossomed with the M’s but I think going to a rebuilding team that was willing to call him a starter full stop and send him out everyday and just see what he could do helped a lot.

    Fangraphs has him at 2.5 WAR so far this year BTW.

  25. Matt Staples on August 8th, 2010 12:49 pm

    Morrow is much more than a league-average starter. Viewed in terms of his age, price, and the remaining duration of club control, he’s even more valuable.

  26. Westside guy on August 8th, 2010 12:53 pm

    Yeah, but it’s because he’s wild. When he’s not walking the world he’s a monster. And he may be able to keep that under control more games than not, eventually.

    I agree with you, and I hope he does eventually become the next Randy Johnson (albeit in a shorter package). I like the guy – but it’s definitely not a given.

    The M’s thought they had a competent pitching staff and needed League more than they needed Morrow. But then (and this is not an exhaustive list, unfortunately) RRS self-destructed, Aardsma became human again, and most players’ offensive skills apparently were left down in Peoria’s lost baggage room.

  27. joser on August 8th, 2010 12:57 pm

    Yeah, a team that thinks it is contending needs a League. The team that thinks it is rebuilding would love a Morrow. One team turned out to be not where it thought it was, at least in part due to career low years at the plate by a surprising number of players. And it’s unclear that Morrow would’ve been a replacement for RRS, at least not until it was too late. Would Wak have kept running Morrow out game after game?

    Anyway, that was the most Ks by a Blue Jay pitcher since… Roger Clemens in 1997.

  28. Jay Yencich on August 8th, 2010 1:02 pm

    I hear there’s another baseball game starting soon in which some current Mariners will be playing.

  29. illdonk on August 8th, 2010 1:02 pm

    I just ran through the team-runs figures for the past few decades.

    The Mariners are on pace to score 527 runs this season. This would be the fewest runs scored by any team, either AL or NL, since 1971/72.

    [Note: though 1972 was not a full season, with about 6-8 games being cancelled due to a strike, six teams had fewer runs-scored-per-game numbers than the Mariners and most certainly would have 'beaten' the Mariners' projected total. If that doesn't work for you, in 1971 the Padres scored 486 runs and the Angels 511, so we definitely have our low-scoring basement period.]

    The teams the Mariners can rally to beat are the following:

    1976 Expos: 531 Runs
    1978 A’s: 532 Runs
    1973-75 Padres: 548/541/552 Runs
    1981 Reds: 545 Runs
    1992 Dodgers: 548 Runs
    1988 Orioles: 550 Runs
    1976 Angels: 550 Runs

    Go team!

    [Note: there might be errors as I need to run out to see some planes fly around.]

  30. Westside guy on August 8th, 2010 1:08 pm

    I hear there’s another baseball game starting soon in which some current Mariners will be playing.

    Oh, are the Rainiers playing an afternoon game? :-D

  31. joser on August 8th, 2010 1:08 pm

    So, watching the Jays the last few games, I had a thought: they have Jose Molina with a 2011 team option for $1M. They just now started the clock on JP Arencibia. Meanwhile, John Buck is a free agent who was paid $2M this year and will be looking for more thanks to his career-high .346 wOBA. Perhaps that would look good in an M’s jersey? He can actually catch balls in his vicinity and block pitches in the dirt, too. Bonus!

  32. Jay Yencich on August 8th, 2010 1:10 pm

    Oh, are the Rainiers playing an afternoon game? :-D

    Not for another three hours, but it’s Pineda Day so you may have the opportunity to wash out the taste of whatever happens in this one with that.

  33. joser on August 8th, 2010 1:10 pm

    Oh, are the Rainiers playing an afternoon game?

    Hi-yo! :P

  34. Axtell on August 8th, 2010 1:16 pm

    Congrats to Morrow. The M’s jerked him around (much like the Yanks have done with Joba), it’s good to see he’s doing well in a new organization.

    I’m hoping he’s able to build on this and have a nice rebound, but one outing is just that – one outing.

  35. scott19 on August 8th, 2010 1:18 pm

    I knew some of those Padres and Angels teams from the early/mid-70′s had to be on that list of pathetically low-scoring teams…since it makes you wonder how many more games guys like Nolan Ryan or Randy Jones might’ve won with any kind of offense behind them back in those days.

    And yes, congrats to Brandon Morrow today…nicely done!

  36. scott19 on August 8th, 2010 1:47 pm

    Ironically, the minute Morrow’s gem was over and the Mariners started playing their game, we all signed off…

    Too funny!

  37. MariLOLs on August 8th, 2010 1:49 pm

    Illdonk: excellent work! Where were you able to find that data?

  38. joser on August 8th, 2010 1:57 pm

    Like I said, Morrow jerked himself around more than the organization did. If anything, the org wasn’t assertive enough in telling him where to go and what to be, and let him change his mind too often. But the diabetes was a complicating factor, and when a guy doesn’t think he can go a lot of innings because of something like that, it’s hard to argue. I don’t see much in the way of analogies with Joba, frankly, but I’m not particularly familiar with the details of that situation.

  39. scott19 on August 8th, 2010 2:07 pm

    Perhaps that would look good in an M’s jersey? He can actually catch balls in his vicinity and block pitches in the dirt, too.

    Yeah, Buck could potentially be a decent fit here. Looking at B-R, I noticed a few guys who weren’t total bums amongst his comparables (one being Tom Lampkin)…and it should behoove any manager to have at least one catcher on his roster who can play consistent defense when you need him to.

  40. lalo on August 8th, 2010 2:13 pm

    Yeah, Buck could potentially be a decent fit here. Looking at B-R, I noticed a few guys who weren’t total bums amongst his comparables (one being Tom Lampkin)…and it should behoove any manager to have at least one catcher on his roster who can play consistent defense when you need him to.

    Agree, maybe two year 6 millions, Moore-Buck looks better than Alfonzo-Rojo…

  41. illdonk on August 8th, 2010 2:21 pm

    It was simple brute-force copying and sorting, year-by-year on Baseball Reference. I had been curious myself and couldn’t find the numbers. Only took a half-hour.

  42. Glen on August 8th, 2010 2:30 pm

    Is it me, or has Lopez completely given up and us just going through the motions?

  43. juneau_fan on August 8th, 2010 2:33 pm

    Did Lopez ever try?

    Other than the weird self-correction thing he does during his at-bats, where he’s talking himself through the proper swing? Shouldn’t you know what the hell you’re doing by this point in his career?

  44. Cody on August 8th, 2010 2:35 pm

    well with Josh Wilson and Tui already up, who takes Jack Wilson’s spot on the team?

  45. scott19 on August 8th, 2010 2:36 pm

    It seems Jo. Wilson may be in there for a while rather than Ja. Wilson, too…since Niehaus just mentioned that Jack apparently messed up his hand last night in some kind of accident at home.

  46. henryv on August 8th, 2010 2:37 pm

    Figgins gets a groundball with 2 outs and doesn’t even look at first base.

    Lopez would be proud.

  47. scott19 on August 8th, 2010 2:45 pm

    the weird self-correction thing he does during his at-bats

    Hey, that weird self-correction thing used to work once in while for Cards’ closer Al Hrabosky years ago when he needed to throw the right pitch…

    Watching the self-proclaimed “Mad Hungarian” stalk around the mound in the ninth inning like a raving lunatic while trying to close out a game was a hoot. :)

  48. msfanmike on August 8th, 2010 3:25 pm

    Langerhans attempting to execute a suicide squeeze: WTF!!!

    You don’t squeeze with a left-handed batter. It is too big a risk. A simple pitch out toward the oncoming runner and he is a dead duck. A safety squeeze: maybe, but never a suicide squeeze.

    I was driving in my vehicle and listening to the game on the radio, so I don’t know if Rizz described it accurately, but it sounded like just one more FUBAR in a season full of them. A left-handed batter who very rarely (if ever) bunts. Yeah, I am sure it fooled KC … right down to their pitch out and simple tag out of the oncoming runner. Brilliant!

  49. msfanmike on August 8th, 2010 3:31 pm

    Thank God we still have the “Little Jerk” to spin double plays and get an occasional big hit.

    Atta boy Figgy.

    Hey Matt Pittman: You are dumber than a bag of hammers.

  50. MX on August 8th, 2010 3:31 pm

    This is the 1-2 punch everyone has been waiting for.

  51. lalo on August 8th, 2010 3:31 pm

    well with Josh Wilson and Tui already up, who takes Jack Wilson’s spot on the team?

    Woodward??

  52. scott19 on August 8th, 2010 3:33 pm

    Woodward??

    He sounds like the most likely candidate.

  53. lalo on August 8th, 2010 3:37 pm

    Woodward to Seattle, Triunfel to Tacoma???

  54. MariLOLs on August 8th, 2010 3:39 pm

    Rest easy, boys. The DA is on the case.

  55. scott19 on August 8th, 2010 3:41 pm

    Rest easy, boys. The DA is on the case.

    Uh, you were saying?

  56. MariLOLs on August 8th, 2010 3:44 pm

    Case closed. That bat ran right into Aardsma’s laser beam. Pure luck…

  57. scott19 on August 8th, 2010 3:46 pm

    And Vargas at least gets a win out of his effort for a change…

    Two out of three from the mighty Royals…woohoo!

  58. msfanmike on August 8th, 2010 3:47 pm

    Woodward??

    What … how can that be? Why would we need him? We have the great Tui in tow. Why would we need someone who can actually field his position?

    However correct the Woodward prediction is (and I think it probably is) – it sure speaks volumes about organizational “depth” at a critical position. Yuck.

  59. poordispatcher on August 8th, 2010 3:48 pm

    Alex Gordon has some 9th inning luck…last week I was in Kansas City and saw him striking out the whole night…only to come back on the bottom of 9th for a 2-out, 3-run walk-off homer…

  60. poordispatcher on August 8th, 2010 3:50 pm

    Woodward to Seattle, Triunfel to Tacoma???

    I doubt it. Saw him last night at West Tenn…he made at least one error, another one scored as a hit. Went 1 for 4 and didn’t look very focused.

  61. Westside guy on August 8th, 2010 4:09 pm

    What a boring game. I ended up fast-forwarding through most of it…

  62. themedia on August 8th, 2010 4:12 pm

    *makes standard complaint about trading/losing/not drafting a good player—again—and sighs*

  63. scott19 on August 8th, 2010 4:15 pm

    Oh c’mon, Westside…how could you not enjoy the riveting drama of baseball excitement that was this series?

    Though I’ll have to admit that I couldn’t find any syncronized swimming on TV this weekend as an alternative. :)

  64. scott19 on August 8th, 2010 4:18 pm

    Meanwhile, Pitman just rhetorically asked on the post-game show if this was a “big” win for this team…sheesh.

  65. IwearMsHats on August 8th, 2010 4:35 pm

    Pineda, 2 walks 3 strikeouts so far…Ackley hit a triple.

  66. IwearMsHats on August 8th, 2010 4:39 pm

    Pineda 5 strikeouts through 2 innings lolol

  67. DC on August 8th, 2010 4:40 pm

    This team never should have thought it was contending this year. Complete joke!

  68. Westside guy on August 8th, 2010 5:02 pm

    Meanwhile, Pitman just rhetorically asked on the post-game show if this was a “big” win for this team…sheesh.

    Well, given the relatively small number of wins to choose from, it’s as good as any I suppose…

  69. Westside guy on August 8th, 2010 5:12 pm

    The M’s have exactly 50 more games to play, and they need to win 21 of them to avoid 100 losses. Can they do it?

  70. msfanmike on August 8th, 2010 5:22 pm

    The M’s have exactly 50 more games to play, and they need to win 21 of them to avoid 100 losses. Can they do it?

    I don’t think they can Westy. I think they are a lock to lose 100+. Probably around 105 +/-. The over/under is being informally set at 105.

    Meanwhile, Pitman just rhetorically asked …

    Matt Pittman is a rhetorical question.

  71. msfanmike on August 8th, 2010 5:31 pm

    Pineda came out of today’s game after the 3rd inning. Does anybody know why?

    Also, Woodward is playing today in Omaha, so does that mean he might not be the guy that is called up to replace the injured Jack Wilson? This would probably be the time of the year that Jack Hannahan (yaaaawn) would have been called up – if they had not already traded him.

  72. Bremerton guy on August 8th, 2010 7:19 pm


    Hey Matt Pittman: You are dumber than a bag of hammers.

    Freakin’ Matt Pittman.

    Matt Pittman is a rhetorical question.

    Good God.

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