Game 114, Mariners at A’s

Dave · August 10, 2010 at 4:43 pm · Filed Under Mariners 

Hernandez vs Anderson, 7:10 pm

Happy Felix Day.

I’ll be on with the guys at 1510 KGA at 5:15 pm, if you want to listen to me muse about Wak’s firing.

Two of my favorite pitchers square off for what should be a pretty good duel. Anderson’s still trying to get back to regular season form after a couple of DL trips, but when he’s right, he’s about as good as it gets, non-Lee-and-Halladay division.

Oh, and if you thought the line-ups were just because Wak was crazy, Daren Brown wants to let you know otherwise. See below:

Ichiro, RF
Figgins, 2B
Lopez, DH
Gutierrez, CF
Kotchman, 1B
Moore, C
Langerhans, LF
Tuiasosopo, 3B
Josh Wilson, SS

Comments

91 Responses to “Game 114, Mariners at A’s”

  1. MarinerDan on August 10th, 2010 4:45 pm

    This lineup makes me want to hurl. If we don’t finish with the worst record in the league, I will be disappointed.

  2. Chris_From_Bothell on August 10th, 2010 4:49 pm

    I see Lopez is continuing the proud Mariner tradition of a middle-of-the-order DH who can’t “H”.

    And Tui at third. Defense!

  3. beadyeyes123 on August 10th, 2010 4:53 pm

    Where is Saunders? Did he make somebody angry or something??

  4. GripS on August 10th, 2010 4:53 pm

    Wow… this is unexpected. Mix it up!

  5. Cody on August 10th, 2010 4:55 pm

    Free Michael Saunders!

  6. robbbbbb on August 10th, 2010 4:55 pm

    That lineup gives me a brain cramp.

  7. Paul B on August 10th, 2010 4:57 pm

    I’m guessing Saunders is still hurt. At least, I hope that is the reason.

    And Lopez DH and hitting 3rd? Really?

    Maybe we should bring back Miguel Cairo.

  8. spankystout on August 10th, 2010 5:01 pm

    Wow…just, wow!

    Fire Wak just to watch his interim replacement repeat the same crazy mistakes. Boooooo this lineup and slap Jack Z’s bald head for letting Brown repeat the same BS.

  9. SODOMOJO360 on August 10th, 2010 5:02 pm

    Who else do we hit 3rd against a Lefty? Guti has struggled just as much and that’s the only other option. The lineup just looks bad because we don’t have much talent right now.

  10. Dave Spiwak on August 10th, 2010 5:07 pm

    I predict: Ichiro will start off with a single, Figgie will walk, and Lopie will hit into a 5-4-3 triple play.

  11. mikeym on August 10th, 2010 5:14 pm

    Welcome aboard, Skip! Feel free to arrange these lovely deck chairs in any way you like.

  12. smb on August 10th, 2010 5:19 pm

    Zing! Good one, mikeym. What dressing would we like with our nightly turd salad?

  13. Sam Donnelley on August 10th, 2010 5:24 pm

    I was pretty excited to go to the Safe and see King Felix today. Then I saw that line-up and became, well, emotionally flaccid might be the best way to describe it.

  14. Adam S on August 10th, 2010 5:34 pm

    What lineup would you want Brown to run out there? Now the problem isn’t the manager, it’s the talent.

    With Saunders hurt (I assume) and two catchers, he’s down to 10 guys for 8 spots. Keeping Woodward glued to the bench seems wise. Maybe something is up with Branyan… or resting him against a lefty.

    He’s got his three best hitters at 1, 2, and 4. He has Tui and Josh Wilson at the bottom where they belong.

    This org has an irrational belief that Jose Lopez is a good hitter and as such he’s in the middle; this is also day 2 so maybe Brown hasn’t figured out Lopez can’t hit.

    I’d swap Branyan and Lopez but otherwise it’s hard to complain other than wishing Saunders, Bradley, and Jack were healthy.

  15. TripleAvery on August 10th, 2010 5:39 pm

    Cheat sheet for Jack’s manager interviews this offseason:

    Question:
    “Would you ever bat Jose Lopez 3rd or 4th?”

    If the response is:
    “Yes, with furious vigor!”
    You say:
    “Thanks for coming and good luck with your job search. It looks like you’re going to need it.”

    If the response is:
    “Yes, if we were closing in on the #1 overall in the draft.”
    You say:
    “We have your number, stay close to the phone.”

    If the response is:
    “What the hell is he still doing on my team, and why didn’t he ride to Kansas City with Yuni on that tandem bicycle we got them?”
    You say:
    “You’re hired.”

  16. Westside guy on August 10th, 2010 6:00 pm

    Langerhans should be hitting higher than either Lopez or Kotchman, in my opinion (and probably higher than Moore as well; but at least Moore has some theoretical upside).

    And I can understand giving a good hitter an “off day” by using them at DH – but Lopez is not a good hitter. If Branyan’s not on the DL, he should be hitting – he’s a better hitter at 80% healthy than Lopez is at 100% healthy.

    AND if Saunders was healthy enough to pinch run last night, he should be playing today. If his back is bothering him, he shouldn’t have been running for Branyan yesterday.

  17. greentunic on August 10th, 2010 6:01 pm

    Honestly though, what lineup SHOULD they put up with these guys? Whats the gripe? Is it Lopez 3rd? Is it no Branyan? (is he hurt)? I mean there is no good lineup with this group at the moment.

  18. Westside guy on August 10th, 2010 6:03 pm

    BTW has anyone else gone crazy watching Lopez NEVER swing at the first pitch – which is often right down the middle to him – and then flail away at everything else thrown anywhere in the general vicinity of home plate? Does he think that is what plate discipline is all about – that one pitch?

  19. thehemogoblin on August 10th, 2010 6:07 pm

    Greentunic, they’d be better served leaving Tui’s glove in the dugout and having him DH while Lopez plays third base.

  20. Westside guy on August 10th, 2010 6:08 pm

    Honestly though, what lineup SHOULD they put up with these guys? Whats the gripe? Is it Lopez 3rd? Is it no Branyan? (is he hurt)? I mean there is no good lineup with this group at the moment.

    Yes, my gripe is with Lopez being third. I understand that batting order is, in general, not that important – but having a 6-4-3 type hitter like Lopez or Kotchman hit right after your two highest on-base threats just seems stupid.

    I’d rather see Lopez hit fourth than third, if those are the only two choices. Really I’d rather he hit sixth or seventh. Or ninth, so he’d be coming to the plate with the bases empty more often.

  21. greentunic on August 10th, 2010 6:08 pm

    I like your change. Perhaps he’s trying to develop Tui? But yeah he has been painful to watch in the hot corner.

  22. Paul B on August 10th, 2010 6:17 pm

    Honestly though, what lineup SHOULD they put up with these guys? Whats the gripe? Is it Lopez 3rd? Is it no Branyan? (is he hurt)? I mean there is no good lineup with this group at the moment

    Here’s the OPS+ of tonight’s lineup:

    1. 108
    2. 81
    3. 65
    4. 89
    5. 72
    6. 35
    7. 108
    8. 26
    9. 77

    Are you saying that makes sense?
    and the bench is 98, 93 and 92.

  23. greentunic on August 10th, 2010 6:20 pm

    No, in fact, now that i see that, it looks rather silly. Even though some of that is small sample. Id love to see ichi second or third. Silly traditions should not get in the way of trying to play good ball.

  24. regnaD kciN on August 10th, 2010 6:43 pm

    What lineup would you want Brown to run out there? Now the problem isn’t the manager, it’s the talent.

    Whereas, two days ago, it was the other way around???

  25. lalo on August 10th, 2010 6:52 pm

    Tui at third base over Jose Lopez???

  26. Paul B on August 10th, 2010 6:59 pm

    Yes, if Lopez is getting the day off, he surely doesn’t belong at DH.

    I don’t know why I listen to the pregame show. One of Krueger’s idiocies is he equates errors with defense, as in, they had errors so the defense was bad. He knows nothing about range. Makes me want to toss things at the TV when he says the Mariners have the worst defense.

  27. Swungonandbelted on August 10th, 2010 7:19 pm

    Nice job of wriggling off the hook there Felix….

  28. littlesongs on August 10th, 2010 7:20 pm

    He was just setting up the infield for another triple play.

  29. greentunic on August 10th, 2010 7:27 pm

    8 pitch walk by Lopez. Oh, thats why they put him third. Cause he does that once every 200 ABs

  30. SODOMOJO360 on August 10th, 2010 7:27 pm

    Damn Jose is slow!

  31. littlesongs on August 10th, 2010 7:31 pm

    But there is no joy in Mudville – mighty Casey grounded out.

  32. poordispatcher on August 10th, 2010 8:06 pm

    Felix struck out the side! Hopefully he can last longer than Anderson.

  33. Carson on August 10th, 2010 8:22 pm

    “Looks like it’s going to take at least one run to win this ballgame.” — Dave Sims

    I’ll just leave it at that.

  34. MrZDevotee on August 10th, 2010 8:28 pm

    Wow, if you combine Tui and Moore’s OPS+… COMBINE THEM… they still make up the lowest OPS+ in the lineup.

    (And, y’know, all-caps makes that look really horrible!)

  35. juneau_fan on August 10th, 2010 8:29 pm

    LOL, that made me pause and look up from the keyboard too, Carson.

    Remember, it’s been a long season for all of them too.

  36. MrZDevotee on August 10th, 2010 8:32 pm

    “Looks like it’s going to take at least one run a guy in a hat to win this ballgame.” — Dave Sims

    Better. But just as inane.

  37. MrZDevotee on August 10th, 2010 8:35 pm

    We should fire some of our announcers, to let the team know NOBODY is safe! They need to hustle a little more backing up their colleagues when they make stupid comments.

  38. EthanN on August 10th, 2010 8:36 pm

    No. I have a belief system in the announcers. They’re the guys I want up there in the box during crunch time.

    Dave’s our announcer.

  39. Kazinski on August 10th, 2010 8:36 pm

    I was pretty excited to go to the Safe and see King Felix today.

    You still should be.

  40. MrZDevotee on August 10th, 2010 8:38 pm

    LOL @ Ethan…

    I joked with my wife I think Dave Niehaus demanded Wak get fired, not ’cause he didn’t like him, but because we could all hear just how bored he has become covering this awful team– he needed something relevant to talk about, and the players weren’t helping the cause.

  41. juneau_fan on August 10th, 2010 8:38 pm

    I hate Lopez.

    Grounding out to third really sucks when the runner’s at second.

  42. MrZDevotee on August 10th, 2010 8:40 pm

    But Juneau–
    Give him some credit… It’s not easy to ground out to third in that situation as often as he does. It’s hard work.

  43. littlesongs on August 10th, 2010 8:41 pm

    Mighty Casey comes through!

  44. EthanN on August 10th, 2010 8:42 pm

    Woooo Klutchman strikes again! Or…okay Klutchman struck!

  45. poordispatcher on August 10th, 2010 8:44 pm

    2-out clutch single…who is this 1st baseman?!

  46. MrZDevotee on August 10th, 2010 8:47 pm

    For all the grief we give him, Kotchman really does play a nice 1B.

  47. littlesongs on August 10th, 2010 8:48 pm

    2-out clutch single…who is this 1st baseman?!

    If the stars line up and the baseball gods are smiling, he could be the next Wally Pipp.

  48. juneau_fan on August 10th, 2010 8:49 pm

    Poor Felix, clinging to that one run lead like it’s the final game of the WS. We feel your pain, kid!

  49. Axtell on August 10th, 2010 8:51 pm

    To everyone bashing the lineup, what exactly would you have him do? Saunders is (from what I gathered) injured and can’t play. It’s not like they have Pujols on the bench.

  50. littlesongs on August 10th, 2010 8:54 pm

    Way to force the balk Langerhans!

  51. MrZDevotee on August 10th, 2010 8:54 pm

    Littlesongs-
    Are you dooming Smoak to an ugly death?

    (Wally Pipp preceded Lou Gehrig at 1B)

  52. EthanN on August 10th, 2010 8:56 pm

    This is quite a duel. Is Felix going to come out due to pitch count?

  53. littlesongs on August 10th, 2010 8:59 pm

    Are you dooming Smoak to an ugly death?

    No, I would hope that he is even luckier than the luckiest man on the face of the earth.

  54. Dave Spiwak on August 10th, 2010 9:03 pm

    I’m still puzzled about the round-the-horn triple play. To wit:

    1. If the double-play is the pitcher’s best friend, what does that make the triple-play? And where the the pitcher’s dog rank in the pecking order?

    2. What or where is the infield horn?

    Thanks

  55. MrZDevotee on August 10th, 2010 9:04 pm

    Ethan-
    Not if Felix has a say in it. (How sad is it to be 7-9 with a 2.8 ERA?)

  56. Carson on August 10th, 2010 9:06 pm

    Thank you baseball Gods for at least letting us have Felix.

  57. juneau_fan on August 10th, 2010 9:06 pm

    I have my own puzzlements, Spiwak. Like why Felix is on a inning count for the year, not a pitch count. We’ve all seen the pitchers who can’t seem to go more than 5-6 innings before hitting 110 pitches and getting pulled.

    So if Felix was one of those, they’d let him keep pitching?

  58. EthanN on August 10th, 2010 9:07 pm

    @Dave Spiwak
    The triple play is the pitcher’s friend with benefits.

    As for the horn, well I like to believe its imaginary. Like a unicorn. =)

  59. MrZDevotee on August 10th, 2010 9:09 pm

    Is Felix going to come out due to pitch count?

    Plus, Brown doesn’t want to get in a shoving match with Felix in the dugout if he takes him out… That can be death to a manager.

  60. MrZDevotee on August 10th, 2010 9:11 pm

    Whoever said it before… There’s Lopey taking a belt high heater down the middle of the plate. Without a flinch.

  61. juneau_fan on August 10th, 2010 9:12 pm

    It doesn’t matter where they put Lopez in the lineup, he always seems to have men on base to not drive in.

  62. juneau_fan on August 10th, 2010 9:13 pm

    The triple play is the pitcher’s friend with benefits.

    My nomination for the game thread comment of the year.

  63. juneau_fan on August 10th, 2010 9:14 pm

    Praise the baseball gods! HE HIT THE BALL TO THE RIGHT!!

  64. wescottr on August 10th, 2010 9:14 pm

    Figgy was terrible when this season mattered, but he’s shown pretty well over the last month. And now a hit-and-run that works from Lopez and Figgy!!

  65. MrZDevotee on August 10th, 2010 9:16 pm

    The triple play is the pitcher’s friend with benefits.

    And the announcer at that day’s game is credited with making a “booty call”, when it happens.

  66. littlesongs on August 10th, 2010 9:16 pm

    Is that the first successful hit and run of Lopie’s career? Or was it just a coincidence with Figgy trying to get a jump on a double play grounder to third?

  67. Paul B on August 10th, 2010 9:16 pm

    To everyone bashing the lineup, what exactly would you have him do?

    I think we already answered this one. A couple of times.

  68. poordispatcher on August 10th, 2010 9:18 pm

    About time Loafie gets lifted for a pinch runner…

  69. Paul B on August 10th, 2010 9:18 pm

    The Mariners have had 10 triple plays, and before yesterday, none in the last 15 years.

    I think that says a couple of things, one of which is that in the early years the Mariners had lots of innings where the other team had 2 on and none out.

    It also says that the triple plays I saw in the Kingdome were probably in the 1980′s. I don’t remember seeing the one in 1995 that they showed tonight.

  70. Dave Spiwak on August 10th, 2010 9:19 pm

    Juneau Fan – Felix is on a innings count because we have the DA – ta dum (how can I do sound effects?)

  71. MrZDevotee on August 10th, 2010 9:22 pm

    About time Loafie gets lifted for a pinch runner…

    What is this “pinch” thing you speak of– does this new manager have some new-fangled modern strategy we don’t know about? “Pinch runner?”

  72. poordispatcher on August 10th, 2010 9:23 pm

    The DA is on the case…! Don’t blow this one, for Felix’s sake, PLEASE!!!

  73. poordispatcher on August 10th, 2010 9:24 pm

    “Pinch runner?”

    No amount of pinching can make the Loaf hustle…

  74. MrZDevotee on August 10th, 2010 9:24 pm

    (my two year old hit the return)

  75. poordispatcher on August 10th, 2010 9:26 pm

    Oh no…if DA walks the leadoff guy it’s over…

  76. juneau_fan on August 10th, 2010 9:27 pm

    Is it me, or are we all drunk?

  77. EthanN on August 10th, 2010 9:28 pm

    Aardsma’s pants annoy me. Just throwing that out there

  78. juneau_fan on August 10th, 2010 9:29 pm

    Pretty funny, MrZ, because in my little corner of the Intertubes (RIP, Uncle Ted) symbolizes a profound thoughts, such as the learned professor peaking his fingertips, or like your therapist does as he’s about to explain why you have an irrational fear of fish.

  79. SeasonTix on August 10th, 2010 9:29 pm

    DA is less cringe-inducing when he’s not throwing all fastballs all the time.

    Still, I never breath easy until the the 3rd out is in the books with DA on the mound.

  80. EthanN on August 10th, 2010 9:30 pm

    @juneau_fan

    Don’t worry, its not just you

  81. earinc on August 10th, 2010 9:31 pm

    I understand every bit of logic that says take Felix out and preserve his arm, long-term, but fuck it, I hate it. If you’re that concerned, take him out after 7, after the wild pitch. He excelled in the eighth. He was cruising towards a complete game shutout. What else to we have to cheer for?

  82. littlesongs on August 10th, 2010 9:31 pm

    The triple plays I saw in the Kingdome were probably in the 1980’s.

    Here is the all-time triple play list:

    4/22/1977 vs. Cleveland
    5/31/1980 at Cleveland
    5/22/1981 vs. Texas
    5/13/1986 at Milwaukee
    8/12/1986 at Oakland
    6/01/1991 at Texas
    9/10/1991 at Toronto
    8/30/1992 vs. Baltimore
    7/13/1995 vs. Toronto
    8/09/2010 vs. Oakland

  83. juneau_fan on August 10th, 2010 9:31 pm

    Very weird. Two brackets must go wonky code on us in the posting window. No matter.

    Aardsma’s pants bother me too, Ethan. There’s lots of bad pants on this team. I think it’s because we have nothing else to fixate on. And the players keep changing them around, looking for that ‘luck.’

  84. poordispatcher on August 10th, 2010 9:32 pm

    Case closed…with a SPLITTER???

  85. lalo on August 10th, 2010 9:32 pm

    Well done Felix, well done D.A, more of this for 2011…

  86. Swungonandbelted on August 10th, 2010 9:33 pm

    It seems like forever since the M’s won two in a row

  87. EthanN on August 10th, 2010 9:34 pm

    The game is over and I’m still slightly worried they’re going to find a way to lose.

    This is life as a Mariners fan.

  88. littlesongs on August 10th, 2010 9:38 pm

    2-0 in the Daren Brown era. Watch out Buck Showalter!

    Thank heavens for Felix Hernandez and some timely hitting. (I just typed “timely hitting” without any sarcasm?! Huzzah!)

  89. scott19 on August 10th, 2010 10:00 pm

    Awesome, awesome performance tonight, King…well done!!! :)

  90. Breadbaker on August 10th, 2010 10:15 pm

    My favorite moment was when Guti called off Josh Wilson on that play in the ninth. I swear no one had called anyone off all year until then.

  91. greentunic on August 11th, 2010 12:17 am

    Dear Felix,

    You are our hero!

    Signed,
    All Mariner fans on USS Mariner (I took the liberty of speaking for everyone)

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