Game 149, Rangers at Mariners
Dave · September 19, 2010 at 10:26 am · Filed Under Mariners
Hunter vs Fister, 1:10 pm.
Two big pitching mismatches went as expected in the first two games, so now we get a match-up of two pretty similar pitchers, as both guys throw strikes with pedestrian stuff and hope that the ball finds a defender. The game will probably be decided by which offense performs better, which oh crap.
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Hunter’s a righty, so that’s a relative disadvantage at Safeco I suppose. However he has the privilege of facing the Mariners “offense”, which may be insurmountably advantageous.
Mariners Line-up:
Ichiro RF
Figgins 2B
Gutierrez DH
Lopez
3BWTF?Smoak 1B
Langerhans LF
Paperboy SS
Condor CF
Quiroz C
Yay!!! I get to see Smoak today. Albeit from RF, but should be fun.
Ichi’s not going to get to 200 today, Felix isn’t pitching, Lopez is still playing. Hm.
Go Seahawks!
I doubt the Seahawks are going to give you much solace this year, Chris.
5 games ahead of Pittsburgh, the comeback is possible
Pitt won again!! First place is still within our grasp…barely.
Head’s up play by Figgy there!
(Hey, SOMEONE has to comment on the game…)
It’s not a good thing that Pitt won, IMO. If we hang on here, we’ll be 6 games up on them with 13 to go. There’s no way in hell we are catching them.
OTOH, now that Arizona just lost 3 in a row to the worst team in baseball, we are only 1.5 games up on them. Furthermore, they have to face Colorado and SF 6 times in the last 12 games. They will lose the majority of those games since both those teams are fighting for their playoff lives.
We are also 2 games up on Baltimore, and they face some tough AL East teams down the stretch, too.
I realize draft position doesn’t matter all that much, but I would still rather see us finish 2nd than 4th.
Man, it’d be nice if Aardsma would do it the easy way once in a while…
I have full confidence in our boys that regardless what we need done, they will find some way to fail horrifically at it.
If we’re 2 games up for the first pick going into our last series, we’re sure to pull out the sweep.
I’m not entirely confident of our ability to even get the right players to show up to the game.
Well, we won.
Hooray?
F–k it, I’m going to go watch some paint dry in the rain.
Wait. Just where are you in my backyard?
14th comment!!
Score.
Finished watching the game on the DVR–was out fishing.
Scored 5 runs total against the Rangers and yet won the series. That was how the season was mapped out, right? Not fun to watch all the time, I must say.
So am I thinking right, only 12 games left? After the next series we are down to 9 games? I see us possibly losing 2 of 3. Flyball pitchers against Toronto, good luck, especially with our offense.
I stopped watching the Mariners around the beginning/middle of June and haven’t looked back. I keep doing so every year when I realize that this will be a waste of my time. Does this make me a fair-weather fan?
How can I simultaneously feel as if summer flew by and yet the Mariners’ 2010 season seems to have dragged on ad infinitum?
I missed the game today, but looking at the game log I wonder if Guillermo Quiroz did pretty good in his debut.
That pinch runner thrown out in the 8th was huge, and I see he got a hit also.
And we probably don’t put so much stock into it, but Fister having a great outing against the hard hitting Rangers also can’t hurt his (Quiroz’s) evaluation.
Going into 2011, our catcher situation looks pretty bad (Rob Johnson and Moore) and for the remainder of the games, I’m interesting in anything which may bring some light into it.
That and Felix games, and especially Ichiro’s 200 hits. I had to miss the game today, but that’s why I’m basically tuning in every day. Ichiro at bats (you can see the opponent pitcher/defense on their toes really duelling to try to get him out and off base) and his defense are great.
Reviewing the game, I say “what a crappy bunch of hitters Fister had to back him up.” When the highest slugging percentage in the lineup belongs to Ichiro, you know you will need a great pitching performance.
Don’t pre-judge Moore until you’ve got a significant number of data points to look at. Remember, RoJo was the catcher here for most of this year. Same thing when you’re looking at Saunders or Smoak.
These guys simply haven’t been in the bigs long enough for anyone to really have a grasp on how they’ll turn out.
Adam Moore has 200 at bats in the bigs. It’s not that small of a sample size any more. His drop-off from AAA to the bigs has been huge. Hopefully he can turn it around, or he’s likely to be Rob Johnson 2.0, with less excuses.
IS Rob J hurt?? I know he was sent to Tacoma, But Alfonso played in the last few playoff games there, and bringing Quiroz up when it seemed like RJ would be available in a few more days seems funny.
I mean this in the nicest way possible: Who cares?
Actually, it is. In fact, it’s still only about half the size you need to conclude anything meaningful about his OBP, SLG, OPS… by extension his wOBA. It’s significantly less than half what you need to draw a conclusion about his batting average. It’s enough to tell you a lot about what kind of hitter he is (swing%, K rate, FB vs GB, etc) but not what kind of success he’s going to have.
Of course you could grow the sample by going back and looking at his AAA numbers and running them through an Equivalencies calculator, but that also would tend to tell you that his numbers so far in MLB aren’t indicative and he’s going to turn out better than he’s shown so far.
Basically, he’s had half a season in the bigs — and, as you must’ve learned from watching Lopez the last few years, half a season can be misleading.
Well, technically…. since there was no fair weather in June (or any month prior to that) and apparently you’re back now after the two fair weather days in July and the couple of weeks in August that constituted “summer” are long gone…. technically you seem to be a foul-weather fan. Of course, poetically and euphemistically, I think we’d call you… a sanity-valuing fan.
Actually throw out the first half year in the bigs completely and then start counting from there.
I notice Fangraphs has a post on how bad the Mariners Catchers are. They compare Adam Moore with Miguel Olivo’s 2005:
If you have been following Miguel Olivo he has put together two pretty good offensive seasons in row now, here is is last 6 years wOBA and WAR:
Looking back at the catcher we did have after Olivo was gone which we were pretty happy with for a while, we can see he was much better than Olivo for 2006-2007, but for the entire 4 year period 2006-2009 that we can compare them head to head, Johjima was only somewhat better than Olivo (8.0WAR to 5.8 over 4 seasons):
But now Johjima is gone and Olivo is in his prime.
So here is the question should we have been patient with Olivo and put up with him 2006 – 2008 and waited for him to develop (probably not), and maybe more importantly how long should we give Moore to develop?
I’d give him another year.