Game 162, A’s at Mariners

Dave · October 3, 2010 at 10:00 am · Filed Under Mariners 

Braden vs Rowland-Smith, 1:10 pm.

Oh thank God, it’s over.

The season in a sentence: Josh Bard is hitting 5th today.

Ichiro, RF
Figgins, 2B
Gutierrez, DH
Smoak, 1B
Bard, C
Saunders, LF
Halman, CF
Mangini, 3B
Josh Wilson, SS

Comments

83 Responses to “Game 162, A’s at Mariners”

  1. zzyzx on October 3rd, 2010 10:01 am

    Giving Jack Z a standing O in Benaroya feels like a decade ago…

  2. maqman on October 3rd, 2010 10:11 am

    I used to be a Dodgers fan in the 1950s and they were getting beat by the Giants and Yankees every year and that was really depressing. This Ms season was the worst season of my life.

  3. GoldenGutz on October 3rd, 2010 10:19 am

    A song by the All-American Rejects is fitting for today. “It Ends Tonight.”

    Thank God. I can’t wait til June with the 2nd overall pick and seeing Pineda pitch with Ackley and Smoak in the lineup.

  4. Dennisss on October 3rd, 2010 10:53 am

    This is as good a time as any to point out that the Pirates, in a division that is weak even if you don’t include them, are nearly 100 runs worse in run differential than the next worst team, your Seattle Mariners. Pythagoras says they should have lost 111, versus weak competition.

    It’s hard to believe anyone can be that bad.

  5. fiftyone on October 3rd, 2010 11:20 am

    Oh please, anyone could have called this lineup in March.

  6. Rick Banjo on October 3rd, 2010 11:21 am

    2001: 116 Wins.

    2010: 100 shitty losses.

    2100: Who knows?

    I’m definitely happy that this one is over. Now if they could just leave it out of the books.

  7. Carson on October 3rd, 2010 11:35 am

    I wonder if anyone gets carried around the field after the game?

  8. King.Dome on October 3rd, 2010 11:59 am

    Yes, finally. The organization embarrassed itself this year in ways I’ve never seen. That’s saying a lot considering this team has been so crappy most of its existence. I still can’t believe the way they treated Wak. Well, actually, it’s Lincoln & Armstrong, so I take that back, it’s not a big surprise. I never considered going to the games less after the strike or anything else, but I was basically sick to my stomach at the thought of spending money to support this organization this year after the crap started hitting the fan.

    Guti is guaranteed a gold glove this year right? I mean the guy has zero errors!

  9. spankystout on October 3rd, 2010 12:21 pm

    This season has felt like 161 visits to my dentist. Only one more excruciating game left to endure.

  10. nwade on October 3rd, 2010 12:23 pm

    Halman in CF again. Given that we inked that long-term deal for Guti, is this an attempt to make Halman look good as a minor trade piece off-season? Is there any way an MLB team out there would want such a young/unproven player? I’m just curious if there’s anything behind this CF play, other than “rest Guti for next year”… Thoughts?

  11. spankystout on October 3rd, 2010 12:28 pm

    Apparently Guti is still feeling the effects of his stomach flu from a week or two ago. That is why Brown has put him at DH and Saunders or Halman in CF.

  12. juneau_fan on October 3rd, 2010 12:35 pm

    I wonder if anyone gets carried around the field after the game?

    I was thinking that myself, Carson. Win or lose, I see them just trudging off the field. We’ll see.

    Somehow it seems fitting for RSS to pitch today, since he performed below expectations, not Felix, the one shining light of the season. (And Ichiro, of course, but he’ll be there as always)

  13. spankystout on October 3rd, 2010 12:41 pm

    Didn’t Armstrong say that Griffey would be back this season for some sort of celebration? Jr must still be pissed about nap-gate and Wak benching him.

  14. Liam on October 3rd, 2010 12:50 pm

    Halman has very little experience playing LF in the minors, 2 games this year, 14 the year before.

  15. Shanfan on October 3rd, 2010 12:53 pm

    Absolutely the worst season ever and I’ve been following them from day one. Horrible on and off the field. I look back fondly on the Maury Wills and Bill Plummer seasons.

  16. Liam on October 3rd, 2010 12:54 pm

    Didn’t Armstrong say that Griffey would be back this season for some sort of celebration?

    the Seattle Mariners were caught off-guard again Thursday when Griffey’s agent said Junior would return to the team in some capacity this season.

    [...]

    “He will be back in the near future, and Seattle’s fans will have the chance to see him and honor him,” Goldberg said. “He will be back for a day this season for whatever kind of ceremony the M’s want.”
    -Link

  17. juneau_fan on October 3rd, 2010 12:54 pm

    Hasn’t Guti had that flu for months now? I remember it starting on some road trip back East. Let’s hope there’s not some other awful issue. *sigh* That would just be a capper on the season.

    Didn’t Armstrong say that Griffey would be back this season for some sort of celebration? Jr must still be pissed about nap-gate and Wak benching him.

    When he didn’t show up for the Reds series, I figured he wasn’t ever coming back.

    “Screw you for allowing me to make myself look washed up!”

  18. spankystout on October 3rd, 2010 1:01 pm

    Yeah I don’t see who Jr can be mad at besides himself. They fired Wak and almost everyone surrounding him. Is Jr waiting for Larue to be fired as well?

  19. Shanfan on October 3rd, 2010 1:02 pm

    2006 Mike Hargrove
    2007 John McLaren
    2008 Jim Riggleman
    2009 Don Wakamatsu
    2010 Daren Brown
    2011 ?

    These are your season ending managers the last five years. I’m sure next year it’ll be a new name. Hargrove finished 2005 also to ‘break the streak’. Bob Melvin ended the 2004 season. You’d think 70′s/80′s Steinbrenner was running this organization.

  20. Westside guy on October 3rd, 2010 1:07 pm

    Yeah I don’t see who Jr can be mad at besides himself. They fired Wak and almost everyone surrounding him. Is Jr waiting for Larue to be fired as well?

    I don’t think Griffey is all that different from most formerly-elite athletes. From what I’ve seen, very few of them see their declining skillsets realistically – it takes a few years of reflection and retirement first.

  21. Westside guy on October 3rd, 2010 1:08 pm

    Shanfan, do you really want Brown to be the Mariners’ manager next year? Me, I’m really hoping it’s a new name at the end of 2011. I see that as a positive (in this specific instance), not a negative. Brown’s terrible.

    Now from 2011 on I do hope for some consistency.

  22. juneau_fan on October 3rd, 2010 1:13 pm

    Yeah, Westside, Buhner said the other day when he was in the booth that he wanted to play again. That drive that made them so damn good is hard to shut down.

    Ugh, off to the usual craptastic start….

    What the hell, Dave? Who’d take RSS off the Mariner’s hands?

  23. Westside guy on October 3rd, 2010 1:21 pm

    Many of you know a lot more about this than I do – where can I find information regarding who is still under team control next year, next two years, etc.? I know Cot’s has info on the team’s contractual obligations; but I’m wondering about, for example, if I wanted to see how many years Seattle has the rights to guys like Halman or Mangini (random names, I don’t know if those two will ever amount to anything).

    Thanks!

  24. Shanfan on October 3rd, 2010 1:26 pm

    No, I do not want Brown back as manager. He did a needed job as interim janitor with the mess he was handed though.

  25. Westside guy on October 3rd, 2010 1:28 pm

    “Interim Janitor” – that is a very apt description!

  26. G-Man on October 3rd, 2010 1:30 pm

    Apparently Guti is still feeling the effects of his stomach flu from a week or two ago. That is why Brown has put him at DH and Saunders or Halman in CF.

    What’s nice is that this assures that Guti get the record for most errorless chances in a season in CF.

    I didn’t realize that it had been 5 years of different managers; thanks Shanfan. Hey, are you an attorney by any chance?

  27. juneau_fan on October 3rd, 2010 1:37 pm

    Great, so this guy’s going to no-hit the Mariners to end the season on his own highnote. Nice.

  28. Carson on October 3rd, 2010 1:49 pm

    There’s a guy at the ballpark in a Jack Wilson jersey. True story.

  29. spankystout on October 3rd, 2010 1:49 pm

    Well at least RRS only gave away one run.

  30. Carson on October 3rd, 2010 2:00 pm

    If the M’s lose and no one homers, they end the season with the same number of losses and home runs.

    Can I get another beer, Mr. Vendor man?

  31. juneau_fan on October 3rd, 2010 2:00 pm

    There’s a Jack Wilson jersey to be bought?

    One of the things I find fascinating about baseball is the saga of the talented player on the crappy team. Rumors swirl for years. Who will get them, what sort of career would they have outside this awful team, when will they be traded?

    Then it happens and result can be surprising. Wilson was finally freed from the Pirates and…eh…

    I noticed Ryan Church was a Diamondback in a game the other day. Talk about a whateverhappenedto moment.

  32. greentunic on October 3rd, 2010 2:02 pm

    Okay, M’s… we got the pick. No need to keep losing intentionally…

    Wait, what’s that? They’re actually this bad? oh.

  33. spankystout on October 3rd, 2010 2:03 pm

    Jack Wilson was a slight gamble. He had injuries the two previous years before being acquired. Plus he was a career NL player trying to make the transition to the AL while being injury prone. Not a good cocktail if you want consistency.

  34. Liam on October 3rd, 2010 2:08 pm

    @shannondrayer
    Griffey sent a cake to the pressbox in honor of Jim Street’s final game.

  35. spankystout on October 3rd, 2010 2:08 pm

    Speaking of SSs. How many games will Josh Wilson start next year for the M’s?

  36. mlathrop3 on October 3rd, 2010 2:11 pm

    Can we get a thread to bitch about the Seahawks? It just seems redundant to do it here.

  37. juneau_fan on October 3rd, 2010 2:12 pm

    Yeah, spankystout, I’m always leery of the NL player coming over. It has worked, but just not for the M’s? All I have to do is hear Cirello’s name and I shudder.

  38. spankystout on October 3rd, 2010 2:16 pm

    I thought that was an awesome joke Liam. Then I checked twitter… I’m thoroughly dissappointed in Griffey. He thanks Jim Street, but not the fans that cheered him on?!?! Classy move Jr.

  39. spankystout on October 3rd, 2010 2:21 pm

    The NL to Mariner curse seems all to real. Aurilia, Cirillo, Sexson, Wilson… But I don’t believe in “curses” except the ones George Carlin told.

  40. Westside guy on October 3rd, 2010 2:25 pm

    If you’ve been following the Mariners for the past two decades, you shouldn’t be surprised by Junior. He can have a huge heart, and he can be a petulant twelve-year-old – both at the same time even.

    He is what he is. If being childish is the worst thing we can say about him… well we know significantly worse shortcomings exist with some other players.

  41. juneau_fan on October 3rd, 2010 2:30 pm

    One thing I wish Ken Burns had done in Tenth Inning was show how Griffey lost so much by not cheating during the steroid era. He sort of started touching on that point, but then it wandered off into the Shakespearean tragic figure that is Barry Bonds. I hope there’s more material in the DVDs.

    I know it doesn’t feel great now, Junior, but you will have your integrity at the end of the day when you’re standing in the HOF.

    Back to the game. I know chicks love the long ball, but wow, I love a play at the plate. But is it me, or does Mangini run like a drunk truck driver?

  42. Liam on October 3rd, 2010 2:31 pm

    The NL to Mariner curse seems all to real. Aurilia, Cirillo, Sexson, Wilson…

    Bret Boone, Adrian Beltre, Jose Guillen, John Olerud.

  43. spankystout on October 3rd, 2010 2:32 pm

    I know the ‘kid’ nickname was more than just a cute reference. I’m just dissappointed he thanks a bad (my opinion) journalist, instead of the fans that invested millions into cheering him on.

  44. Westside guy on October 3rd, 2010 2:32 pm

    ICHIRO!!!!

  45. Carson on October 3rd, 2010 2:33 pm

    @shannondrayer
    Griffey sent a cake to the pressbox in honor of Jim Street’s final game.

    I’m not falling for this again. We lost Corey Brock because Street wanted back in.

  46. spankystout on October 3rd, 2010 2:33 pm

    Boone was awesome until his syringe ran dry!

  47. Westside guy on October 3rd, 2010 2:34 pm

    But is it me, or does Mangini run like a drunk truck driver?

    I don’t have a frame of reference from which I can respond to this…

  48. spankystout on October 3rd, 2010 2:43 pm

    Larry Stone tweeted the M’s attendance is down a total of 110,547 from last year.

  49. fargomsfan on October 3rd, 2010 2:48 pm

    So, Wright is pitching and not Felix (at least for 1 inning). How sad.

  50. Westside guy on October 3rd, 2010 2:49 pm

    Last thing we need is for Felix to get a loss in a relief appearance…

  51. juneau_fan on October 3rd, 2010 2:49 pm

    I don’t have a frame of reference from which I can respond to this…

    How about a drunk accountant?

    I’d expect the attendance to be less. What is that, a bit more than 1,300 a game? The stands sure have looked very empty at times.

  52. juneau_fan on October 3rd, 2010 2:50 pm

    Last thing we need is for Felix to get a loss in a relief appearance…

    Or he could vulture a win!

  53. Carson on October 3rd, 2010 2:50 pm

    Felix got recognized with a nice standing O at the park. I’m happy.

    Also, the hydros were exciting and crowd pleasing as usual…!

  54. Westside guy on October 3rd, 2010 2:52 pm

    Or he could vulture a win!

    Yeah, now that we’re behind it would be fun to see him for an inning…

  55. Westside guy on October 3rd, 2010 2:56 pm

    Sims is apologizing for some obscenity now? There are so many jokes about this team that could be made…

    But I don’t remember anyone apologizing when RRS launched an F-bomb after giving up a homer earlier this season. That came across loud and clear, too.

  56. Liam on October 3rd, 2010 3:07 pm

    It happens. I recall Sims doing it a couple weeks ago.

  57. Carson on October 3rd, 2010 3:14 pm

    Rough day for the PA team.

    They gave away a “Justin” Vargas jersey and started Louie Louie prematurely.

    Who DOESN’T want this season to end?

  58. juneau_fan on October 3rd, 2010 3:16 pm

    I dunno, Sims made some blasphemous exclamation in yesterday’s game when that ball boy got whacked. I was surprised he didn’t apologize. I’m a godless heathen, but I’m sure his Grandmother wouldn’t be thrilled to hear that on the air.

  59. juneau_fan on October 3rd, 2010 3:16 pm

    There’s a Vargas jersey? Who buys it beside his family?

    This team is pathetic.

  60. juneau_fan on October 3rd, 2010 3:20 pm

    Shot of fear at seeing Tejada in the SD highlight. Will he be available next year? Our new SS?

    The last thing I need is to see the Snapping Turtle for the half a season before he’d be released.

  61. Carson on October 3rd, 2010 3:21 pm

    So, uh, Josh Wilson is using some techno remix of the “I Dream of Jeannie” theme as his walkup. This really is a screwed up dream, right?

  62. juneau_fan on October 3rd, 2010 3:27 pm

    I love hearing that non one can hit HRs at Safeco.

    A’s don’t seem to be having any trouble. *sigh*

  63. juneau_fan on October 3rd, 2010 3:38 pm

    God, they are desperate.

    And goodbye Lopez!

  64. Carson on October 3rd, 2010 3:42 pm

    I just got the evil eye dim about a hundred people for booing Lopez.

    I honestly don’t get these fans. But, to each their own. Cheer the guy I guess.

  65. juneau_fan on October 3rd, 2010 3:57 pm

    Playing for a tie in the 9th. That pretty much says it, eh?

  66. juneau_fan on October 3rd, 2010 4:01 pm

    And a DP to end it?

    Whhhaaa? Maybe not! Hope springs eternal!

  67. G-Man on October 3rd, 2010 4:03 pm

    Playing for a tie in the 9th. That pretty much says it, eh?

    And Brown’s wife is expecting their first tomorrow in Texas!

  68. G-Man on October 3rd, 2010 4:04 pm

    Turn it loose, Ichi.

  69. juneau_fan on October 3rd, 2010 4:05 pm

    *sigh*

  70. G-Man on October 3rd, 2010 4:17 pm

    And Krueger puts the cherry on the cake by suggesting that the M’s go get Grady Sizemore – “he’s a local product.”

    WE DON’T NEED AN OF, MUCH LESS A CF!

    HE HAS ONE YEAR LEFT ON HIS CONTRACT!

  71. samregens on October 3rd, 2010 4:20 pm

    Well Ichiro tried. And God knows he played a big part in all our runs scored today.
    Thank you for being you. And see you in 2011!

  72. Westside guy on October 3rd, 2010 4:20 pm

    Brown must be younger than he looks, if he and his wife are just now having their first kid. I thought he was pretty old…

    Oh well, we don’t need to listen to The Count for another six months – that’s one positive I’m taking away from this game.

  73. fiftyone on October 3rd, 2010 4:21 pm

    Always a relief when the boring game-playing portion of the calendar is over and we can return to the much more enjoyable season of irrational-dreaming-while-number-crunching.

  74. Westside guy on October 3rd, 2010 4:27 pm

    Oh, good grief. I like a lot of Drayer’s stuff, but she just wrote a blog post that blamed “chemistry”, at least in part, for this year’s problems.

    So the team needs veteran leadership and chemistry – that’ll fix it. Ri-ight…

  75. samregens on October 3rd, 2010 4:29 pm

    And Krueger puts the cherry on the cake by suggesting that the M’s go get Grady Sizemore – “he’s a local product.”

    Krueger is an idiot. I’m glad nobody takes him seriously (I hope). But I wish he was off the air, he’s bad for baseball.

  76. eponymous coward on October 3rd, 2010 4:43 pm

    The problem isn’t chemistry. The problem is a roster that’s waaaaaay too much Large Item Pickup Day. Bradley, Kotchman, Griffey, Snell and so on.

    WE DON’T NEED AN OF, MUCH LESS A CF!

    HE HAS ONE YEAR LEFT ON HIS CONTRACT!

    Krueger annoys me too, but this isn’t as dumb a suggestion as you think it is.

    If Zduriencik figured out a way to get Sizemore on the 2011 roster without breaking the bank or giving away the farm, and he goes back to being a 4-6 WAR player, hell yes, we can figure out a way to use him. I seriously doubt that Saunders will ever get to Sizemore’s level of play, and realistically, we’d have a great OF defense.

    Granted, he’d be a risk, but a guy coming off injury at Sizemore’s age would be an acceptable risk to take for a year rental, as long as the price was right. There aren’t going to be a lot of options available to add 4-6 WAR players to the M’s roster, and rejecting this out of hand would be foolish.

  77. scott19 on October 3rd, 2010 4:56 pm

    Krueger is an idiot. I’m glad nobody takes him seriously (I hope). But I wish he was off the air, he’s bad for baseball.

    Of course, the same could be said for Matt Pitman — who just came right out and told the listeners not to call in to the post-game show if they were pissed off about the season.

    Believe Big, indeed!

  78. mlathrop3 on October 3rd, 2010 5:06 pm

    So is there a #2 pick out there that can help the team almost immediately?

  79. Westside guy on October 3rd, 2010 5:07 pm

    In a year when we’re almost certainly not contending, going out and taking a risk on a possibly problematic guy like Sizemore makes little sense.

  80. samregens on October 3rd, 2010 5:16 pm

    rejecting this out of hand would be foolish.

    I rejected it because Krueger harped on about “local product” (“hometown boy”) crap which has burnt us before. In contrast, you gave a more balanced outlook on potential benefits. Although personally, I feel the Mariners have already made too many bad bets on “damaged” goods resurrecting themselves to high level of productivity. (It rarely happens).

    I’m also irritated that Krueger claims we need a “Centerpiece Player” and then advocates for an outfielder (a local guy we can root for) when we already have Ichiro (and Guti). I sense this is yet another slam against Ichiro. Fuck Krueger.

  81. Breadbaker on October 3rd, 2010 7:14 pm

    I’m also irritated that Krueger claims we need a “Centerpiece Player” and then advocates for an outfielder (a local guy we can root for) when we already have Ichiro (and Guti).

    And Saunders, who is in fact a local guy we can root for.

  82. greentunic on October 3rd, 2010 10:40 pm

    I’m to the sad point now that I feel that if we got Sizemore he would come and hit .238/.289/.387 if we got PUJOLS he would come and hit .279/.324/.428…

    No matter who we go out and get, unless they come from Japan or AAA they will not hit for us.

  83. Westside guy on October 4th, 2010 1:04 am

    The season in a sentence: Josh Bard is hitting 5th today.

    And here I thought it was – “Batting clean-up: Jose Lopez”.

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