Game 60, Mariners At White Sox

Dave · June 6, 2011 at 1:42 pm · Filed Under Mariners 

Pineda vs Danks, 5:10 pm.

For the last year or so, whenever I’ve written anything anywhere about John Danks, some White Sox fan always finds it and decides it will be funny to make some kind of joke about how Chicago should trade him for Jose Lopez, since part of my 2010 off-season plan involved the Mariners trading Lopez (along with Jason Vargas and Mark Lowe) to get Danks in an effort to re-build the rotation. That suggestion got passed around the internet in a game of telephone and has eventually just become “Lopez for Danks”, with everyone ignoring the other parts in the deal. And, obviously, Lopez has been pretty terrible since then, and is (for now) out of baseball.

But, interestingly, here’s Danks and Vargas since the post was written.

Vargas: 2.59 BB/9, 5.51 K/9, 37% GB%, 3.83 ERA, 3.91 FIP, 4.50 xFIP, +3.6 WAR
Danks: 3.02 BB/9, 6.61 K/9, 44% GB%, 4.10 ERA, 3.99 FIP, 4.04 xFIP, +4.7 WAR

During that time frame, the White Sox have paid Danks $5.45 million (and are on the hook for another $4 million this year), while the Mariners have paid Vargas $1.1 million (and owe him another $1.3 million this year). Danks has been marginally better, but the salary wipes out any real difference. Despite the mocking, a Vargas/Danks trade made in the winter of 2009 would have turned out to be almost exactly fair 18 months later. Funny how life works out.

Ichiro, DH
Ryan, SS
Smoak, 1B
Olivo, C
Gutierrez, CF
M. Wilson, RF
J. WIlson, 2B
Figgins, 3B
Halman, LF

Comments

140 Responses to “Game 60, Mariners At White Sox”

  1. Paul B on June 6th, 2011 6:37 pm

    I’m sort of feeling like this is Mike Wilson’s major league career. Right now. He’s 28. He’s not hitting. Next time the M’s make a change, he’ll probably be the one to go.

  2. sexymarinersfan on June 6th, 2011 6:38 pm

    I hear our extended camp down in Arizona could use some depth down there.

  3. MissouriMariner on June 6th, 2011 6:39 pm

    Nothing like working the count there Jack

  4. spankystout on June 6th, 2011 6:41 pm

    I’m glad you liked it mike.

  5. sexymarinersfan on June 6th, 2011 6:44 pm

    Are we picking again today or do they just do the 1st round and then the supplemental/

    NO. We have to wait to select a pitcher with our 2nd pick until tomorrow.

  6. darthbuhner on June 6th, 2011 6:45 pm

    Ugh. This is one of those agonizing hard-luck games. The sort that always went the Ms way in ’01, but sting when they go the other team’s way. Sucks to see Pineda not get run support, yet again.

  7. henryv on June 6th, 2011 6:46 pm

    Is it too much to ask that Chone Figgins gets punched in the face so many times by Jack Wilson that they both have to go on the DL?

    I mean, a kid can dream, right?

  8. sexymarinersfan on June 6th, 2011 6:46 pm

    It’s not over yet!! We own the 8th innings!! Plus Halman is leading off the top of the next inning.

  9. OffensivelyChallenged on June 6th, 2011 6:59 pm

    Score some runs for the kid come on.

  10. MissouriMariner on June 6th, 2011 6:59 pm

    I really dislike our lineup vs. lefties. Very anemic.

  11. sexymarinersfan on June 6th, 2011 7:02 pm

    UHHHHHH…..Go Greg Halman??? Wow!

  12. KiWiNiNjA on June 6th, 2011 7:03 pm

    Halman! lolz

  13. henryv on June 6th, 2011 7:04 pm

    Greg-freaking-Halman

  14. sportsnw on June 6th, 2011 7:05 pm

    Can we start saying that just maybe Halman could become the LF we were looking for?

  15. OffensivelyChallenged on June 6th, 2011 7:06 pm

    Nice!

  16. henryv on June 6th, 2011 7:07 pm

    I’m not listening to the game, but if someone on the broadcast said that “Ichiro had a good at bat because he moved the runner over” I’m going to punch someone.

  17. sexymarinersfan on June 6th, 2011 7:07 pm

    RYANNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Go “Shirt-Licker”!!!!!

  18. spankystout on June 6th, 2011 7:07 pm

    Yay! It is not a shutout.

  19. KingFelixtheCat on June 6th, 2011 7:07 pm

    theres one lets steal this game!

  20. KiWiNiNjA on June 6th, 2011 7:09 pm

    I’m not listening to the game, but if someone on the broadcast said that “Ichiro had a good at bat because he moved the runner over” I’m going to punch someone

    Yeah, because moving the runner over is an obvious bad play.

  21. henryv on June 6th, 2011 7:12 pm

    Yeah, because moving the runner over is an obvious bad play.

    Giving up an out to move a runner already in scoring position down by 2 runs late in a game is a decrease in win probability.

  22. puppyfoot on June 6th, 2011 7:16 pm

    Hope Halman gets a chance in the ninth to raise his BA from .857 to .875.

  23. KiWiNiNjA on June 6th, 2011 7:16 pm

    But if he is going to give up an out, it is better than the runner gets to third, no?

  24. OffensivelyChallenged on June 6th, 2011 7:17 pm

    Hope to see Kennedy PH.

  25. henryv on June 6th, 2011 7:18 pm

    But if he is going to give up an out, it is better than the runner gets to third, no?

    True, but it’s not “getting the job done” as if often said.

  26. Arron on June 6th, 2011 7:23 pm

    But if he is going to give up an out, it is better than the runner gets to third, no?

    True, but it’s not “getting the job done” as if often said.

    It’s one of those cliches that I hate…

    “Professional at bat…” No shit…they get paid…they are all pros…

    “Nice piece of hitting”…as opposed to the full chunk of hitting?

  27. lalo on June 6th, 2011 7:23 pm

    Carp with a homer (18) .344 avg

  28. henryv on June 6th, 2011 7:25 pm

    “Professional at bat…” No shit…they get paid…they are all pros…

    Some just don’t play like it… Chone.

  29. Arron on June 6th, 2011 7:26 pm

    Henry…true dat…

  30. OffensivelyChallenged on June 6th, 2011 7:26 pm

    I don’t like the first pitch in the dirt strategy.

  31. MissouriMariner on June 6th, 2011 7:28 pm

    Nice comeback by Pauley.

  32. sexymarinersfan on June 6th, 2011 7:30 pm

    If Carp hits .857 then I’ll personally get on the phone with Jack Z and make sure he gets up here ASAP!

  33. sexymarinersfan on June 6th, 2011 7:34 pm

    Another wasted pitching performance by Pineda. Let’s get’em tomorrow boys!

  34. henryv on June 6th, 2011 7:34 pm

    With a whimper in the 9th.

    Oh well.

  35. OffensivelyChallenged on June 6th, 2011 7:34 pm

    That game sucked. Blahhhhhh

  36. sexymarinersfan on June 6th, 2011 7:37 pm

    So who holds the most trade value? Bedard? Vargas? Fister? PAULEY??? Decisions, decisions.

  37. henryv on June 6th, 2011 7:43 pm

    Bedard is the most likely to be traded, I think.

    Vargas probably holds a lot of value because he costs nothing, but that also makes him dumb to give up. Also, he is a perfect fit for Safeco.

    I’d give up League for sure, or any of our bullpen, to be honest.

  38. msfanmike on June 6th, 2011 8:27 pm

    Halman accomplished in 2 games what Saunders would accomplish in 6 weeks (6 hits). He can go 0 for his next 24 and have approximately the same average that Figgins currently has.

    Halman has a long way to go, but he has made a nice change in his approach. He’s not faster to 1B than Ichiro because of handedness and hitting style (of course), but in a 100 yard dash – I think he beats Ichiro by two full steps (8-10 yards). If he can commit to getting bat on ball and not trying to hack at everything (like he did when he came up last year) – he will become a much better player than last years callup and virtually all of last years reading material suggested. Speed does not slump. It’s a critical tool and it is not usually accompanied by the power tool. It’s a unique and highly desired combo.

  39. The Hamms Bear on June 6th, 2011 9:06 pm

    Hahahahahaha fucking Figgins.

  40. The Hamms Bear on June 6th, 2011 9:09 pm

    And it’s followed by two base hits.

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