Carp and Peguero

Dave · July 14, 2011 at 9:38 am · Filed Under Mariners 

My latest post for Brock and Salk is up, and deals with the relative merits of Mike Carp and Carlos Peguero as they have climbed the minor league ladder.

Despite Peguero’s youthful face and Carp’s — I’ll just try to put this as gently as I can — not youthful face, it can be easy to overlook the fact that they’re actually pretty close to the same age. Mike Carp was born in June of 1986, while Peguero was born just eight months later in February of 1987. Peguero might seem like the young kid with a lot of potential growth ahead of him, and Carp might seem like a grizzled Triple-A veteran who gets exposed by big league pitching, but the reality is that they’re at pretty similar points in their career.

In fact, if we compare their performances throughout the minor leagues, we can see pretty clearly that Carp has been better than Peguero at nearly every point along their development path.

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68 Responses to “Carp and Peguero”

  1. xsacred24x on July 14th, 2011 3:20 pm

    Adrian Beltre never was that good in LA he had one good year and Bavasi threw money his way also Richie Sexson was close to the end he was a RH bat also. Prince will be 27,28 when he signs he is in the prime of his career and he is LH. So you want to tell Z he can’t make a move because of past GM failures? So how do you propose we make this team better if you don’t want to get Fielder? There is no bats in our Minors you aren’t going to get offense from there.

  2. spankystout on July 14th, 2011 3:31 pm

    Just go and trade for Prince Fielder on ‘MLB the Show’ already.

    A team with a 90M$ payroll doesn’t need an overweight DH and a declining RF taking up 40M$ of the payroll.

  3. xsacred24x on July 14th, 2011 3:39 pm

    Just go and trade for Prince Fielder on ‘MLB the Show’ already.

    A team with a 90M$ payroll doesn’t need an overweight DH and a declining RF taking up 40M$ of the payroll.

    Who said anything about trading for Fielder? I said sign him in the Off Season. I could see this team contending if he was in the lineup with the pitching staff we have.

  4. spankystout on July 14th, 2011 3:46 pm

    You obviously missed the point. Go and get him in a video game to satisfy your desire. Because in reality, signing, or trading for Fielder makes no sense.

  5. xsacred24x on July 14th, 2011 3:52 pm

    You obviously missed the point. Go and get him in a video game to satisfy your desire. Because in reality, signing, or trading for Fielder makes no sense.

    Can you give me a reason why instead of saying that it makes no sense. Don’t mention his weight because i already said that worrys me a bit but you can’t be afraid to make that move as a GM because anybody can get hurt in a freak accident or there body breaking down for whatever reason. Were you for the Hernandez extension that Z gave Hernandez? That is a huge risk as he is doing something that is not natural to the body. (Im glad that Z signed Hernandez by the way just pointing out that extending Hernandez was a risk aswell.)

  6. spankystout on July 14th, 2011 4:02 pm

    Read the comments again. I thought Eponymous did a fine job of covering many of the reasons why Fielder is not a smart choice for the M’s.

  7. Mike Snow on July 14th, 2011 4:02 pm

    Okay, enough. The post is about Carp and Peguero. Prince Fielder is not even mentioned, so comments that focus on him exclusively are off-topic from here on out.

  8. spankystout on July 14th, 2011 4:10 pm

    Woohoo thank you Mr. Snow

  9. xsacred24x on July 14th, 2011 4:18 pm

    Just wanted to say i did read what Eponymous and it was the weight issue and like i said you can’t use that as a reasoning as i said that does worry me but you have to worry about injury issues with every player you sign. That is all i will now quit thank you Snow.

  10. PackBob on July 14th, 2011 5:28 pm

    Thankyou.

  11. Chris_From_Bothell on July 14th, 2011 5:28 pm

    I still don’t understand the love for CAAAArp.

    There isn’t a better left fielder or DH to be had this coming offseason in trade or free agency?

    Sure, run him out there for August and September this year. (Assuming Guti gets the DL time he seems to still need, and Halman is in CF for 2 months.) But he doesn’t seriously have a future with the Ms, does he?

  12. Jordan on July 14th, 2011 5:32 pm

    Just wanted to say i did read what Eponymous

    No, because the point made is that this team needs to improve in many areas not just one. Throwing all eggs into one basket while neglecting the rest is silly.

    So how do you propose we make this team better if you don’t want to get Fielder?

    First off, Peguero AND Carp do not belong on this team unless Cust is jettisoned to make room for Carp. However, I still prefer Peguero because at least there’s a chance something will happen.

    To get better I suggest trading from our only position of strength: Pitching.

    The only pitcher that I wouldn’t trade is Felix. But, Pineda would need to bring back a player such as Upton.

    In a few weeks Z will orchestrate a 3 team deal involving Hanley Ramirez and the Peguero nightmare will finally end. (joke)

  13. xsacred24x on July 14th, 2011 6:11 pm

    No, because the point made is that this team needs to improve in many areas not just one. Throwing all eggs into one basket while neglecting the rest is silly.

    But isn’t that what our biggest weakness is the offense? Our pitching has been giving Quality start after Quality start and the offense has given them nothing to work with i wouldn’t be surprised to see the pitchers struggle because they think they have to be perfect. (Im sorry this is for real the last time just don’t get why people are so afraid to sign a super star who could put the team over the top.) Its either that or trade Walker,Paxton,Hultzen when he signs for some offense.

  14. make_dave_proud on July 14th, 2011 7:14 pm

    I wonder if most Peguero fans were fans of John Daly? I mean the thrill of power which hides the fact (from some) the rest of their game was nonexistent.

    I played golf with John Daly in high school and have known him for more than 20 years. Before he was a big hitter, he was a control freak (about shot making.) Fades, draws, low, hi, you name it — he obsessed with making great shots. And his short game was phenomenal.

    If only some of our hitters were once like this…

  15. make_dave_proud on July 14th, 2011 7:19 pm

    {Redacted comments about the Yankees & Fielder. Apologies for taking the thread off on the tangent.}

  16. eponymous coward on July 14th, 2011 10:32 pm

    But isn’t that what our biggest weakness is the offense?

    Our biggest weakness is having MANY bad offensive players. Our entire starting outfield is horrible, we have no answers at 3B, the DH isn’t good. Signing one player? Solves ONE problem.

    I want the Mariners to solve more than one problem in the offseason. Blowing the budget on one player doesn’t do that.

  17. vj on July 15th, 2011 12:54 am

    What puzzles me: Of all our left field options, Langerhans may actually be the closest to league average. Yet he has played in only 19 games.

  18. OffensivelyChallenged on July 15th, 2011 1:53 pm

    Carp would obviously tear up MLB pitching. Peguero is the reason the M’s can’t contend.

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