Game 98, Mariners at Blue Jays

Dave · July 21, 2011 at 7:46 am · Filed Under Mariners 

Fister vs Romero, 9:37 am.

A couple of pieces of news – Kyle Seager was optioned back to Tacoma to make room for Josh Lueke on the roster. Seager probably would have stuck around if the bullpen hadn’t been worked so hardly lately, but with the team headed for Boston and New York, they needed a fresh arm, so Seager was the one to go. Kennedy will go back to playing third base.

In other news, Chone Figgins is playing left field for the first time as a Mariner today. You could either look at this as the team preparing him for a super-utility role, or showing other teams that he can still play out there. The Reds have been reported to be interested in Figgins as a lead-off guy, and they’re also unhappy with their current left fielders, so it could be a favor to the Reds to show them what Figgins looksl ike in LF.

Oh, and cover your eyes before looking at the line-up.

Ichiro, RF
Ryan, SS
Kennedy, 3B
Olivo, C
Smoak, 1B
Bard, DH
Gutierrez, CF
Figgins, LF
Wilson, 2B

Comments

84 Responses to “Game 98, Mariners at Blue Jays”

  1. J-Dog on July 21st, 2011 7:52 am

    Are we trying to lose today?

  2. jordan on July 21st, 2011 7:53 am

    Over under of runs scored by the M’s: .5

    Seriously, why even watch this game… No Ackley. No Seager. But add Bard and Figgins. This is rough.

  3. lesch2k on July 21st, 2011 7:58 am

    usually if you want to watch baseball before 10am your only option is little league…

  4. Bodhizefa on July 21st, 2011 8:18 am

    No Ackley? Seriously? It might make me less of a fan, but I’m not bothering to watch this one if Wedge isn’t bothering trying to win it. Yuck.

  5. bigpoppa01 on July 21st, 2011 8:38 am

    Are the M’s purposely trying to not give Fister any run support? Geez.

  6. SeattleDan on July 21st, 2011 8:38 am

    Little League? You’re giving too much credit to this team.

  7. RRR on July 21st, 2011 8:50 am

    Lineup stinks. Agreed. But it’s sad that I’m so excited to see Figgins in left for the tiny chance Cincinatti wants him. I don’t care if we end up eating $15m of the final $18m. That would still be a great deal in my books.

  8. Bremerton guy on July 21st, 2011 9:02 am

    Where’s Carp? Why aren’t they playing him to see if he can stick both ways?

  9. asuray on July 21st, 2011 9:03 am

    Here’s hoping that Figgins goes 2-3 with a walk and a steal coupled with a few nice plays in the outfield and Cinci immediately calls to offer Grandal straight up for him with us covering salary.

  10. RRR on July 21st, 2011 9:05 am

    The lineup would have been better if they hit Olivo/Bard back to back. A bad hitting catcher face off!

  11. fosio on July 21st, 2011 9:12 am

    Why put your only backup catcher at DH when there are so many other options? Maybe not good options, but options nonetheless. If something happens to Olivo and we have to shift Bard to C, then we lose our DH, right?

  12. PinedaExpress on July 21st, 2011 9:15 am

    Why put your only backup catcher at DH when there are so many other options? Maybe not good options, but options nonetheless. If something happens to Olivo and we have to shift Bard to C, then we lose our DH, right?

    Our pitchers are better hitters than the guy we have at DH anyways. Is this really a concern?

  13. Jimmie the Geek on July 21st, 2011 9:16 am

    Cinci immediately calls to offer Grandal straight up for him with us covering salary.

    I’m expecting a call from recently single Scarlett Johansson today, too! :\

    I’m at work, so I can’t pay as much (well, any) attention to this game. With this lineup, that’s OK though.

  14. mironos on July 21st, 2011 9:23 am

    Is it possible Wedge is just hoping Fister can allow -1 runs?

  15. stevie_j13 on July 21st, 2011 9:25 am

    No Ackley, Halman, or Carp? This must be our AARP lineup.

  16. Paul B on July 21st, 2011 9:28 am

    Are we trying to lose today?

    Wedge has tried to win, and that didn’t work, so….

    No Ackley, no Carp, and Bard as DH.

    regarding sending down Seager, why didn’t they just DFA Cust? He has no role on the team, he never plays, he can’t play in the field, so his spot on the roster is just wasted anyway.

  17. Paul B on July 21st, 2011 9:34 am

    If something happens to Olivo and we have to shift Bard to C, then we lose our DH, right?

    Yes.

  18. Dave Spiwak on July 21st, 2011 9:44 am

    Put this one in the category of nothing else is working so let’s try something completely different and see what happens.

  19. The_Waco_Kid on July 21st, 2011 9:47 am

    If something happens to Olivo and we have to shift Bard to C, then we lose our DH, right?

    Excellent. Fister is one of our best hitters anyway.

  20. Paul B on July 21st, 2011 9:49 am

    It’s too bad the M’s didn’t trade Vargas before last night’s game.

    They might have gotten a hitter for him.

  21. marc w on July 21st, 2011 9:54 am

    Josh Bard at DH. Figgins in LF. No Halman (against a lefty).
    I really would’ve thought that the lesson from last year was that people really, really dislike their team losing 100 games. When the M’s were at .500 and in contention, losing 100 games seemed like a bizarre notion, but NOT AS BIZARRE AS THIS LINE-UP.
    This past month hasn’t made a lot of sense, and it sure hasn’t done a lot of good. C’mon Jack. Get better.

  22. Dave on July 21st, 2011 9:57 am

    Pretty sure Jack didn’t set the line-up. He just hired a guy with a tenuous grasp of offensive ability, and possibly how to win a baseball game.

  23. Mustard on July 21st, 2011 9:58 am

    C’mon Eric, put the decent guys you have actually in the lineup. Maybe he is saving some of the young guns from heat exhaustion.

  24. z24lax on July 21st, 2011 9:58 am

    Lineups like this really make me question why I’m a fan of this team. It sounds bad, but I ask myself why should I take them seriously when they don’t take themselves seriously.

    Another thought as well, doesn’t this lineup just scream look at all these awesome pieces we have that can be yours, it’s like a going out of business sale, uuuggh they just make me shake my head.

  25. z24lax on July 21st, 2011 10:02 am

    Maybe there’s a chance we’re looking to set the record for the lowest ERA ever for a 20 game loser, doug fister must kick puppies and flip off kids in his spare time to get this treatment. Losing games on 3 ball walks, lineups like this, poor guy deserves so much better.

  26. SonOfZavaras on July 21st, 2011 10:07 am

    Seriously, why even watch this game… No Ackley. No Seager. But add Bard and Figgins. This is rough.

    The only reason I’m tuning in (and I don’t know how much of it I’ll be able to stand) is to see Fister’s possible last start as a Mariner for the foreseeable future.

    I don’t know if it’s Boston, but I’d be laying odds he’s one we see go off in trade.

  27. SonOfZavaras on July 21st, 2011 10:10 am

    From the MLB piece on Lueke up, Seager down:

    Seager will remain with the Mariners for Thursday’s game with the Blue Jays and travel to Boston with the team that night before leaving for Tacoma on Friday.

    Sounds like a possible “demotion in name only”, and that something may be in the works.

  28. casey on July 21st, 2011 10:13 am

    watching Jays broadcast and Buck Martinez says Romero is .220 vs righties and .270 vs lefty batters … clearly M’s coaching staff hasn’t seen or pay attention to stats like this. Feel bad for Fister who has another no chance for any offence start.

  29. darthbuhner on July 21st, 2011 10:21 am

    Either Wedge is employing the George Costanza “Complete opposite” philosophy with this lineup, or we’re about to see the a dubious new Mariners milestone: Fister’s 12th loss coinciding with the team’s 12th consecutive loss

  30. thedude1987 on July 21st, 2011 10:24 am

    Jack Cust? He must be in the club house napping.

  31. Mustard on July 21st, 2011 10:24 am

    These two starters can turn this into a pitchers duel. Could be low scoring until the bullpens have to work.

  32. Paul B on July 21st, 2011 10:25 am

    Fister has to just be thinking about his stats, just focused in on getting hitters out, and totally ignoring everything else.

    At least, that’s the only way I can think of for him to mentally handle this season.

    I’m having a hard time thinking of a reason I should be interested in this game. I guess I hope Ichiro and Guti get some more hits, because I’m hoping that they get back to where we want them to be. Smoak, too, although I’m starting to wonder if Smoak is hurt, but if he is then Carp should be at first.

  33. Paul B on July 21st, 2011 10:36 am

    Figgins has actually drawn a few walks recently.

    That is what he used to do, back when he had value.

  34. Mustard on July 21st, 2011 10:40 am

    A lead? Way to come through Ichiro!

  35. G-Man on July 21st, 2011 10:51 am

    Seager will remain with the Mariners for Thursday’s game with the Blue Jays and travel to Boston with the team that night before leaving for Tacoma on Friday.

    I checked the Rainiers schedule to see if that could explain it. They play at Tucson tonight and at Salt Lake City Friday night. Maybe Chuck and Howie can get him a cheaper airfare from Boston to SLC that from Toronto to either city.

    The Bench Player Lineup for a day game after a night game seems popular among managers. Bard at DH with Halman sitting does seem strange, though. However, I don’t worry about the slim chance of losing the DH, especially when they have 4 guys who can pinch hit for a pitcher.

  36. The_Waco_Kid on July 21st, 2011 10:55 am

    Either Wedge is employing the George Costanza “Complete opposite” philosophy with this lineup

    Haha, I was totally thinking the Mariners should try the Opposite Technique.

  37. Paul B on July 21st, 2011 10:56 am

    Haha, I was totally thinking the Mariners should try the Opposite Technique.

    You got your wish!

  38. pgreyy on July 21st, 2011 11:03 am

    Your 2011 Seattle Mariners: Finding New Ways To Lose, Every Day!

  39. groundzero55 on July 21st, 2011 11:04 am

    Well that was embarrassing. Safe at first on a strikeout should NEVER happen.

  40. kuptain on July 21st, 2011 11:09 am

    What’s more embarrassing is that the strike out came around and scored.

  41. Paul B on July 21st, 2011 11:13 am

    Mariner Baseball!

  42. Hopmacker on July 21st, 2011 11:14 am

    It has happened at least 55 times. And that is only instances where the pitcher recorded 4 Ks in an inning.

    http://www.baseball-almanac.com/feats/feats19.shtml

    Too much HYPERBOLE

  43. Paul B on July 21st, 2011 11:16 am

    Red is sounding frustrated (I’m listening on the radio).

    Probably a good thing Ron hasn’t been broadcasting most of the games this year.

  44. The_Waco_Kid on July 21st, 2011 11:22 am

    Ballgame

  45. heychuck01 on July 21st, 2011 11:25 am

    At least they found at bats for their vets. In a season like this, that is the most important consideration. /sarcasm

  46. darthbuhner on July 21st, 2011 11:25 am

    12 X 2 =(

  47. marc w on July 21st, 2011 11:27 am

    How are the M’s losing? How could they let THIS game slip away?

  48. The_Waco_Kid on July 21st, 2011 11:29 am
  49. Westside guy on July 21st, 2011 11:40 am

    I’m at work, so I haven’t been able to… Oh who am I kidding. Looking at this lineup, I wouldn’t have watched this game anyway.

    I can’t wait to read the Drayer piece that’ll explain how Wedge’s decisions with regard to today’s lineup all made perfect sense. That said – while we can blame him for throwing a few extra cow pies out there on the field today – we have to admit he’s been handed a big bag of cow pies and told he was in charge of the bag.

  50. Dave Spiwak on July 21st, 2011 11:44 am

    Double play. Guaranteed!

  51. pgreyy on July 21st, 2011 11:46 am

    That NEVER happens for us! MOMENTARY HAPPINESS!!!

  52. wilchiro on July 21st, 2011 11:46 am

    Bases loaded, one out for Olivo. If they fail to score AGAIN in the same situation, I’ll rip my hair out.

    I’m hoping Figgins will at least get one hit, 1-3 with an SB and a good game defensively in LF doesn’t look terrible. I would try him leadoff but Ichiro went 3-3 today, so that won’t be happening.

  53. The_Waco_Kid on July 21st, 2011 11:47 am

    OMG we needed that.

  54. lalo on July 21st, 2011 11:47 am

    Olivo!!!

  55. wilchiro on July 21st, 2011 11:47 am

    I can’t believe my eyes! MIGGY!!!

  56. Dave Spiwak on July 21st, 2011 11:47 am

    I was predicting the opposite using reverse psychology!

  57. heychuck01 on July 21st, 2011 11:53 am

    So the veterans have showed the young guys on the bench how to play. Hit grand slams! Way to teach the young guys, vets.

  58. SODOMOJO360 on July 21st, 2011 11:54 am

    Worst M’s lineup I’ve seen in a long time. Poor Fister can’t get any love with some offense

  59. G-Man on July 21st, 2011 11:55 am

    If Figgins put us ahead, I will kiss him – and run on the field to do it.

  60. SODOMOJO360 on July 21st, 2011 11:57 am

    I knew my jinx would work!

  61. Ichirolling51 on July 21st, 2011 11:57 am

    Are my eyes decieving me, or am I day dreaming again? It was 5-0, when I stoped wtaching now 5-5, is this someone’s idea of a sick twisted joke? Thank God for DVR I guess, but I’m starting to think even that’s wrong.

  62. pgreyy on July 21st, 2011 12:17 pm

    Well, at least there was momentary happiness. As an M’s fan, you have to take what you can get, lately.

    Hey! We almost didn’t lose!

  63. make_dave_proud on July 21st, 2011 12:18 pm

    Wow, that’s crushing. The bats seem to be waking up, but this team just cannot buy a break right now.

  64. msfanmike on July 21st, 2011 12:19 pm

    18 or bust!!!

  65. Mustard on July 21st, 2011 12:23 pm

    Momentary happiness.
    The Mariners score 16 runs in 3 games, which is fantastic for any team yet manage to go 0-3.
    That simply is gut wrenching.

  66. heychuck01 on July 21st, 2011 12:23 pm

    Yay! A nice even dozen!

    Unless you are a baker, then you can celebrate tomorrow.

  67. edclayton on July 21st, 2011 12:26 pm

    Why on earth wouldn’t Wedge use Ackley to pinch hit for Figgins with the winning run on second base in the eighth inning? Leaving Chone in to hit in that situation was absolutely inexcusable. He could have moved Ackley to first, Kennedy to third, and Halman to left for defense. By the time Ackley came in for the ninth it was already too late.

  68. georgmi on July 21st, 2011 12:27 pm

    18 or bust!!!

    Why limit ourselves? We should be going for the 1899 Spiders’ record. We matched the 1906 Cubs, it seems only appropriate to catch another century-old record.

    Halfway there!

  69. TumwaterMike on July 21st, 2011 12:43 pm

    Let the race for next years #1 pick begin. Look out Houston, we’re coming after you.

  70. G-Man on July 21st, 2011 1:10 pm

    Geoff Baker says the strange-looking lineup was because Wedge was preparing to go off on the team afterward if they lost, and he didn’t want to be lambasting a bunch of rookies. IMHO, whatever.

    Grasping for straws, the offense has awoken. Now we just need to get this tricky concept down:

    good offense + good pitching = W

  71. UnderTheClouds on July 21st, 2011 1:19 pm

    Dear Jack Z,

    After two years of your historically-bad lineups and 3 different field managers, at this point I’d even be happy with a “Committment to Mediocrity.”

    Sincerely,

    A thoroughly disgusted fan

  72. mln on July 21st, 2011 1:30 pm

    We need to have one of those “chasing history” countdown clocks, as the Mariners pursue baseball immortality and seek to shatter the consecutive loss record.

  73. groundzero55 on July 21st, 2011 1:33 pm

    Why on earth wouldn’t Wedge use Ackley to pinch hit for Figgins with the winning run on second base in the eighth inning? Leaving Chone in to hit in that situation was absolutely inexcusable.

    Wedge had a very legit reason to start all the veterans over the rookies. Bringing in a rookie would have made it a moot point. We are playing for a high pick, imo.

  74. TumwaterMike on July 21st, 2011 1:41 pm

    We need to have one of those “chasing history” countdown clocks, as the Mariners pursue baseball immortality and seek to shatter the consecutive loss record.

    Wasn’t that by the Orioles?

  75. mln on July 21st, 2011 1:48 pm

    We need to have one of those “chasing history” countdown clocks, as the Mariners pursue baseball immortality and seek to shatter the consecutive loss record.

    Wasn’t that by the Orioles?

    For the AL, it was the Orioles with 21 losses.

    For MLB in general, it was the Cleveland Spiders (NL) with 24 losses.

    http://www.baseball-almanac.com/recbooks/games_lost_records.shtml

    Go M’s!

  76. Westside guy on July 21st, 2011 1:51 pm

    Geoff Baker says the strange-looking lineup was because Wedge was preparing to go off on the team afterward if they lost, and he didn’t want to be lambasting a bunch of rookies. IMHO, whatever.

    As far as I can tell, the current crop of rookies on the major league roster aren’t really the problem.

  77. SonOfZavaras on July 21st, 2011 1:55 pm

    Why on earth wouldn’t Wedge use Ackley to pinch hit for Figgins with the winning run on second base in the eighth inning?

    Because Wedge is a tactical moron. There. I said it.

    Seriously, watching Wedge manage has been the equivalent of that one scene in “Airplane!”- Robert Stack’s “Cpt. Rex Cramer” gets told that they should turn on the runway lights so that the plane Ted Striker is piloting can land.

    And Stack monotones, as if in war: “No…that’s just what they’d want us to do.”

    His managing has too frequently been a living, breathing face palm. Which in turn is one of the main reasons behind this current face plant.

  78. SonOfZavaras on July 21st, 2011 1:58 pm

    Let the race for next years #1 pick begin. Look out Houston, we’re coming after you.

    Not that I question our ability to do it, especially at the rate we’re going…but Oakland, Baltimore, Kansas City, Chicago Cubs, LA Dodgers, San Diego and Houston all currently have records either equal to or worse than us.

    At this point, if nothing changes? We’re a lock for the top 10, outside shot at top 5.

  79. kenshabby on July 21st, 2011 2:10 pm

    I’m just pissed that Bautista didn’t hit 5 HRs against us in this series. Seriously rooting for the guy to have one of the all-time great (and steroid/HGH-free) offensive seasons.

  80. msfanmike on July 21st, 2011 2:13 pm

    At this point, if nothing changes? We’re a lock for the top 10, outside shot at top 5.

    Top 3 pick … or bust!

  81. groundzero55 on July 21st, 2011 2:39 pm

    Nah. The offense guys right now are ranked from 3-10. If we had #1 there would be too much likelihood of getting a pitcher again.

  82. Ichirolling51 on July 21st, 2011 3:07 pm

    No, we’re stock piled at pitching right now, no need for another one. If this were the NFL, where pick trading is legal (isn’t in baseball for some reason) then I would say trade down, to 7-10, and collect more picks. But since we can’t, then we HAVE to take the best hitter available, and if we don’t, like this year (SMH) I will fire JZ my self!

  83. stevemotivateir on July 21st, 2011 3:41 pm

    This line-up makes sense. Why would you want the two hottest hitters in there with Fister pitching?
    And I’m pretty sure they brought Bard back for his bat, rather than to catch.

    Seriously, if there was going to be a surprise move, it should be Carp at 1st in place of Smoak. Smoak could probably use a day or two to think about things.

  84. G-Man on July 21st, 2011 3:56 pm

    Smoak was the least-tenured of the guys in there, and one of the bigger underperformers as of late. According to Wedge’s easy-on-the-kids plan, he should have just played Carp, even facing a LH pitcher, because Smoak has been more of the problem than Carp – Mike had nothing to do with most of the string of losses.

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