Game 140, Mariners at Angels

Jay Yencich · September 5, 2011 at 3:20 pm · Filed Under Game Threads, Mariners 

Haren vs. Vasquez, 6:05 pm

I don’t think that really anyone is looking forward to this. Haren is a talented pitcher. Vasquez has turned in two bad starts and may have finally run into the wall due to his lack of stuff, despite coming up as a pretty good pitcher throughout his minor league tenure. He’ll probably be facing the likes of Trumbo and Trout, and Trout hit him up pretty bad last time around. This is probably going to be unpleasant.

This is also the final regular season day of minor league action, with Jackson (4-8 loss), High Desert (10-0 victory), and Clinton (9-3 victory) already final and Tacoma still playing at the moment. I’m not holding out hope or anything, but if Liddi homers again today, he’ll have thirty on the season, and who doesn’t love round numbers? The Mariners are holding out on calling up any additional players from Tacoma until they’ve finished their game, which means that sometime in the later innings we’ll likely get word of exhausted-looking outfielders stumbling into the dugout after a day game and then a flight to Los Angeles.

RF Ichiro!
SS Ryan
2B Ackley
LF Carp
DH Smoak
1B Kennedy
3B Seager
C Bard
CF Robinson

Comments

51 Responses to “Game 140, Mariners at Angels”

  1. SeaTown Down on September 5th, 2011 3:58 pm

    Are there any other pitchers in AAA we could possibly call up instead of Vasquez?

  2. Jay Yencich on September 5th, 2011 4:02 pm

    Are there any other pitchers in AAA we could possibly call up instead of Vasquez?

    Short answer: pffffffffffffffffffffffft.

    Long answer: Erasmo Ramirez is the most deserving candidate, but he’s already pitched 150+ innings and doesn’t need to be added to the 40-man until next year, to say nothing of the fact that he’s been rushed probably more than Vasquez. Snow is headed to the AFL and has been moved out of the rotation, and was also rushed. That leaves Seddon, Robertson, and French, all of whom are awful.

    And Liddi just hit his second home run. Thirty dingers!

  3. TherzAlwaysHope on September 5th, 2011 4:51 pm

    http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/index.jsp?gid=2011_09_05_detmlb_clemlb_1&mode=recap_away&c_id=det

    “No, Tigers hitters didn’t have much to carry over Monday afternoon from their 18-run barrage against the White Sox the previous night. Thanks to Doug Fister, they didn’t have to.

    After a long Sunday night, Fister put the Indians offense to sleep, counting K’s.

    Whether the same can be said of the Tribe’s playoff hopes will be clearer in the next couple days, but Monday’s 4-2 win was big for the Tigers. This might’ve been Cleveland’s best chance to take a game, not just with the matchup, but the circumstances of a quick turnaround for Detroit, as well.

    Instead, it became a tutorial on how Fister makes Detroit such an improved team, and why Victor Martinez — whose three-run homer proved to be the difference in the game — has been such a clutch hitter for the club.”

  4. msfanmike on September 5th, 2011 5:23 pm

    Henry is probably going to scream today … Kennedy is playing.

    Do the M’s now have the excuse to at least try Ackley in CF, Seager at 2B and Liddi at 3B.

    Saunders, Delabar and Liddi getting called up. Delabar?

  5. Edgar4Hall on September 5th, 2011 5:31 pm

    Actually in this situation, I’d like to see Ackley play 1st and Seager 2nd and then plug Liddi in, especially if Casper the Friendly OF is gone for a bit

  6. Westside guy on September 5th, 2011 5:50 pm

    They didn’t call up Halman! That surprises me – I figured Wedge’s preference would be Halman over Saunders, if they were only bringing up one OF.

    Of course it’s obvious I have no clue regarding Wedge’s thought process, because he’s STILL PLAYING ADAM KENNEDY!?

  7. msfanmike on September 5th, 2011 5:58 pm

    It surprised me that neither Halman or Peguero were called up, but playing time would have been a big issue, so they might as well get a real good look at what they have. I am glad to see Saunders get (what likely will be) his penultimate last chance – before his last chance – next Spring. I hope he can show some improvement and find a way to stick. They need for him to be able to get the job done. They have a lot of mediocre options in the OF and someone has to break through. Why not him?

  8. groundzero55 on September 5th, 2011 6:20 pm

    Oh Carp. You are not fast, you need to remember that.

  9. UnderTheClouds on September 5th, 2011 6:22 pm

    One positive with Vasquez starting: the Angels can give the Rally Monkey a much-deserved day off. All that jumping and raising a commotion while trying to keep pace with the Rangers, the little guy could use a day of rest today, which appropriately enough happens to be Labor Day.

  10. Breadbaker on September 5th, 2011 6:27 pm

    One No positives with Vasquez starting.

    /fixed

  11. groundzero55 on September 5th, 2011 6:30 pm

    Some players can succeed throughout the minors and just not have the stuff to cut it in the majors. We saw it with Tui. I think we are also seeing it with Vasquez.

  12. henryv on September 5th, 2011 6:30 pm

    Henry is probably going to scream today … Kennedy is playing.

    Already done.

    I have also twice mentioned aloud how sexy Dustin Ackley is.

    JY – Did Liddi just go 100/100?

  13. henryv on September 5th, 2011 6:34 pm

    I remember Josh Bard being more ugly. I think his new facial hairstyle is helping out.

  14. Edgar4Hall on September 5th, 2011 6:38 pm

    I know it’s not the most important slot in the order but I have to believe that Trayvon is an absolute PERFECT guy for a #9 hitter at this point in his career. He has pop and speed and can set himself up in scoring position with Ichiro up to bat

  15. henryv on September 5th, 2011 6:38 pm

    It would be interesting to re-categorize LD/GB/FB/IFF and add more information about hit velocity or angle. It actually seems like the trajectory angle vs. BABIP would be a very pretty normal curve. I haven’t seen anything like that, has anyone else?

  16. Dave Spiwak on September 5th, 2011 6:59 pm

    Seager’s always trying to do the matador at third. That was a potential triple play. Ok.. a DP for sure.

  17. Benderfan24 on September 5th, 2011 7:01 pm

    I think it’s disrespectful to all Mariner fans to trot out an obviously sub par minor league pitcher to face a contending professional MLB team.

  18. henryv on September 5th, 2011 7:01 pm

    This is pathetic.

  19. henryv on September 5th, 2011 7:02 pm

    I think it’s disrespectful to all Mariner fans to trot out an obviously sub par minor league pitcher to face a contending professional MLB team.

    Meh. We’re still vying for that #3 draft pick.

  20. Dave Spiwak on September 5th, 2011 7:04 pm

    Rangers should complain to the commissioner.

  21. Benderfan24 on September 5th, 2011 7:05 pm

    #3 Draft pick, at least I feel a little better now :)

  22. henryv on September 5th, 2011 7:09 pm

    Rangers should complain to the commissioner.

    See: Sparky Anderson complaining about Jim Bouton pitching for the Braves, then Bouton shutting them down a week later.

  23. henryv on September 5th, 2011 7:12 pm

    Borjous running looks like the old NFL films that they had to speed up to make them look normal because of how bad the old film frame rate was.

  24. Benderfan24 on September 5th, 2011 7:13 pm

    Hey Jim Bouton was the greatest baseball player…ever!

  25. UnderTheClouds on September 5th, 2011 7:16 pm

    Ugh, watching Vasquez pitch for the Mariners. Now I kinda know how Yankees fans feel watching AJ Burnett or Phil Hughes.

  26. henryv on September 5th, 2011 7:18 pm

    Hey Jim Bouton was the greatest baseball player…ever!

    Only in his mind.

    However, his writing was great.

  27. henryv on September 5th, 2011 7:21 pm

    While I appreciate the Robinson gets rid of the ball fast, he 1) has not idea where it is going and 2) has the velocity of Randy Winn on a bad day.

  28. Benderfan24 on September 5th, 2011 7:23 pm

    In his book “Ball Four”, he talks about his time with the Seattle Pilots.

  29. UnderTheClouds on September 5th, 2011 7:23 pm

    Just when I was ready to give-up on the defense lately, Ryan makes a nice play.

  30. henryv on September 5th, 2011 7:24 pm

    In his book “Ball Four”, he talks about his time with the Seattle Pilots.

    Yeah, that was what I was referencing.

    He also wrote a follow-up which wasn’t as good.

    He did also invent Big League Chew, which is impressive.

    I also have a Rich Rollins bat from one of the Seattle Pilots give-a-way nights. Which was 11 years before I was born. :)

  31. henryv on September 5th, 2011 7:26 pm

    At this point, we need to focus on getting Ichiro 5 at bats, because other than watching Ackley, this stuff isn’t remotely interesting.

  32. henryv on September 5th, 2011 7:26 pm

    Trout really should have caught that Ryan home run.

  33. henryv on September 5th, 2011 7:27 pm

    I love Dustin Ackley. Have I mentioned that?

  34. UnderTheClouds on September 5th, 2011 7:27 pm

    Never fails: Ryan flashes the glove, then next at-bat: BOOM!

  35. henryv on September 5th, 2011 7:28 pm

    Attention terrible pitchers: Please stop throwing at other players’ legs. Seriously. You’re terrible, and they’re not. Don’t be jealous.

  36. Jack Howland on September 5th, 2011 7:35 pm

    He did also invent Big League Chew, which is impressive.

    Bouton’s teammate, Rob Nelson, technically invented the idea of Big League Chew although Bouton was his business partner. I only know this because I just read an article about it an hour ago.

  37. henryv on September 5th, 2011 7:58 pm

    Bouton’s teammate, Rob Nelson, technically invented the idea of Big League Chew although Bouton was his business partner. I only know this because I just read an article about it an hour ago.

    Bouton claims that they invented it together in the bullpen in Portland.

    But given Bouton’s excessive self-importance, it wouldn’t surprise me if he is exaggerating his involvement in the process.

  38. henryv on September 5th, 2011 8:01 pm

    After reading some more, it sounds like Bouton backed off his description in Ball Four, and is crediting Nelson more on his website.

  39. henryv on September 5th, 2011 8:04 pm

    Jeez, the AL West race is the only one (including the wild card) below 7 games.

    I’m starting to think that the idea of having 2 wild card teams play a 1 game playoff per league wouldn’t be a bad idea.

    Also, in addition to having a unlikable team, the Angels fans apparently can’t sing.

  40. UnderTheClouds on September 5th, 2011 8:11 pm

    Can anyone other than Ryan make a throw to first base? Tired of seeing this crap infield defense.

  41. UnderTheClouds on September 5th, 2011 8:27 pm

    5 errors tonight.

  42. henryv on September 5th, 2011 8:54 pm

    5 errors tonight.

    6 if you count Treyvon’s error in center.

  43. henryv on September 5th, 2011 8:56 pm

    Ichiro has to get 40 hits in 22 games.

  44. UnderTheClouds on September 5th, 2011 9:22 pm

    5 errors tonight.
    6 if you count Treyvon’s error in center.

    Yikes, I thought that was included. 5 with an asterisk, then.

  45. UnderTheClouds on September 5th, 2011 10:05 pm

    Forgot to mention that Vasquez lowered his ERA. It’s now below 11 (10.40 to be exact). Looks like he’ll miss the Yankees series and pitch against KC next weekend.

  46. Daron Andrew on September 5th, 2011 10:11 pm

    Forgot to mention that Vasquez lowered his ERA. It’s now below 11 (10.40 to be exact). Looks like he’ll miss the Yankees series and pitch against KC next weekend.

    There’s no way he gets another start………right?

  47. Westside guy on September 5th, 2011 10:42 pm

    I really like Trayvon Robinson… in left field. :-D

  48. groundzero55 on September 5th, 2011 11:08 pm

    There’s no way he gets another start………right?

    Welllll….the more starts we give him, the more likely we pick higher in the draft :)

  49. UnderTheClouds on September 5th, 2011 11:57 pm

    MLB.com now lists his ERA at 10.80. I’d say I made a mistake in reading the number, but I know they’ve changed the number spontaneously in the past after other games. Weird. At any rate, it’s still below 11!

    As to whether he’ll start again, I assume he will. Jay pointed out at the top that there aren’t any better options at AAA right now. The M’s wisely want to stick with a 6-man rotation, to lighten Felix’s workload and prepare for the Pineda shutdown (T-minus 2 games and counting). All jokes aside, Vasquez has had a couple of good innings; maybe it’ll be something he can build on. At any rate, he’s eating innings and getting on-the-job training.

    The vote of confidence that Jack Z just received means that he’s free to treat September as a pre-Spring Training, where winning games is secondary to player development.

    My main gripe now: shouldn’t ticket and beer prices be set to a Spring Training level for the rest of the season?

  50. msfanmike on September 6th, 2011 9:42 am

    he’s free to treat September as a pre-Spring Training, where winning games is secondary to player development.

    I was under the impression that this actually began in mid-March.

  51. UnderTheClouds on September 6th, 2011 11:28 am

    Not like now anyway. The M’s played a few rookie outfielders early in the season, and Smoak at 1st, but still played veterans like Figgins, Bradley and Cust. The rotation also had more veteran arms than it does now. The full-scale youth movement didn’t really takeoff until the losing streak and the deadline trades.

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