Cactus League Game 16/17, Split Squad Day!

Jay Yencich · March 16, 2012 at 12:38 pm · Filed Under Mariners 

So we’re running a day-night not-doubleheader today and the first game starts in a few. This will a Gameday affair as, more than anything else, spring training is about tantalizing. It’s about thinking that guys could work it out because of relevant training or dietary changes and it’s about having the pitcher/hitter you want to see or hear not be on the TV or radio broadcast because you can’t be trusted with that kind of joy just yet. We’ll have to be eased in slowly.

at Brewers, 1 pm

2B Ackley
SS Kawasaki
C Montero
1B Smoak
3B Liddi
CF Saunders
LF Robinson
RF Daniel Carroll
DH Morla


So what happens instead? What happens if you don’t get that thing that you wanted? This is what happens. This is what you get.

at Oakland, 7 pm (RADIO)

CF Figgins
SS Rodriguez
RF Ichiro
LF Carp
DH Wells
3B Seager
1B Jaso
C Sucre
SS Noriega

P Iwakuma

Here’s something that caught my eye in the futility of spring training stats the other day. Guess the third baseman!

A: 28 AB, 5 R, 8 H, 2 HR, 5 RBI, 7/0 K/BB, .286/.286/.500
B: 18 AB, 7 R, 7 H, 4 2B, 4 RBI, 3/3 K/BB, .389/.522/.611

Player A is Seager! Player B is Liddi! Wacky, huh? Liddi has also come to spring training claiming to have a new approach, which may be a good thing since in the winter leagues, he was terrible. Whether or not this change amounts to anything is up to a larger sample to decide.


35 Responses to “Cactus League Game 16/17, Split Squad Day!”

  1. Mariners35 on March 16th, 2012 1:07 pm

    Who the heck are Daniel Carroll and Ramon Morla? If they’ve been prominently featured in pre-season minor league reviews and reports, I’m blanking on them. Are they the their-position-of-the-future at anything in particular?

    Also, I don’t know if it was just me, but Liddi looked kinda not good yesterday. Splitting time at 1b/3b in AAA sounds good from here.

    Lastly: any over/under on who gets cut tonight or tomorrow? I mean, besides the 3 I mentioned here.

  2. Jay Yencich on March 16th, 2012 1:14 pm

    It’s interesting that you would say that Liddi didn’t look good yesterday because he didn’t play yesterday.

    Carroll and Morla aren’t really the future of much of anything. Morla seemed like he could be an interesting addition to the third base pile, but then he completely fell flat after his Pulaski campaign. Carroll was drafted in 2007 out of high school and last year was the first time he’d exceeded 100 games because he had a nasty habit of leaning into pitches and getting himself hurt. He walks a lot and is decent on defense, but he’ll need to hit outside of High Desert, obviously.

    Since this is the last of the split squad days, I’m expecting to see a good number of cuts tomorrow.

  3. Westside guy on March 16th, 2012 1:25 pm

    Man, Liddi looked terrible yesterday – he didn’t do much of ANYTHING. 😀

  4. Westside guy on March 16th, 2012 1:26 pm

    Crap, no Gameday audio – I was hoping to listen while I worked.

  5. Westside guy on March 16th, 2012 1:28 pm

    “Trayvon Robinson strikes out swinging” – now there’s a shocker.

  6. Jay Yencich on March 16th, 2012 1:32 pm

    All right, so Ramon Morla did something positive.

  7. Mariners35 on March 16th, 2012 1:35 pm

    D’oh! I could’ve sworn Liddi was in the game at some point yesterday. Perhaps I’m conflating that with some other appearance of his.

    See how little he stands out? See how easy it is to lose track of him or confuse him with other guys? I think this comes around to prove my larger point anyway!

  8. on March 16th, 2012 1:45 pm

    Live feed going on right now on or click here for direct access

  9. marc w on March 16th, 2012 3:02 pm

    2-run homer for Alex Liddi in the 8th. His hot spring continues, despite the GIDP earlier.

  10. marc w on March 16th, 2012 3:04 pm

    Whoa, an Anthony Phillips sighting.

  11. Jay Yencich on March 16th, 2012 3:10 pm

    Liddi home run, preceded by a Montero walk. Oh yes.

  12. just a fan on March 16th, 2012 4:09 pm

    I for one hope Liddi can keep up this .389 average for the rest of the season.

  13. MrZDevotee on March 16th, 2012 4:35 pm

    Nice bit of Pineilla-esque hardcore coaching there, calling Liddi unremarkable… He must have his iPhone in the dugout and read your comments, right before his homer. “These kids need a kick in the butt sometimes…”


    Certainly none of them are “there” yet, but I don’t feel nearly as afraid of the future at 3B when considering the ongoing development of Seager, Liddi, Catricala, and Martinez…

    As a strong utility guy, and with the current roster, it plays out pretty well to just let Seager do his scrappy thing out there till one of the “kids” takes the job away. Then Seager would assume his more natural role as be-all/do-all bench guy (aka Kyle “Lefty” Bloomquist, with a higher ceiling).

    And if none of that works out, we can go free agent shopping next winter.

  14. henryv on March 16th, 2012 6:20 pm

    Ackley with 3 hits and no runs scored, including a double.

    If there is a team that has stranded a lead-off hitter more than the Mariners over the last 3 years, I’d think their fans had all thrown themselves off bridges by now.

  15. tewminator on March 16th, 2012 6:59 pm

    Went to the game today in Tucson. A few observations:
    Felix is awesome. He looked like a man among boys, effortlessly going through the lineup (admittedly I hadn’t heard of more than a couple of the Brewers, but still).
    Ackley is a baller. He worked the count in all his at bats and smoked three doubles. He looks like something special.
    Smoak didn’t look good. Didn’t make good contact in any of his at bats. Same for Liddi until he hit the homer, off some reliever I hadn’t heard of. But against Estrada he didn’t look very good.

    Overall, great warm day and a nice Mariner following here in Tucson. It was also very nice to see the M’s with 13 hits and not the two that the Brewers had!

  16. Paul B on March 16th, 2012 7:10 pm

    I still would like to see Luis Rodriguez get enough hits to make the team.

  17. stevemotivateir on March 16th, 2012 7:11 pm


  18. Paul B on March 16th, 2012 7:24 pm

    Sounds like the fielding isn’t so hot.

  19. stevemotivateir on March 16th, 2012 7:25 pm

    damn…. damn, and damn again.

  20. stevemotivateir on March 16th, 2012 7:26 pm

    Yeah, Carp’s getting tested early.

  21. Paul B on March 16th, 2012 7:26 pm

    Iwakuma not looking so hot. .

  22. stevemotivateir on March 16th, 2012 7:31 pm

    Throwin’ a lot of sliders up in the zone, so says Blowers anyway.

  23. Paul B on March 16th, 2012 7:36 pm

    I wonder if Iwakuma just bought a ticket to Tacoma.

  24. stevemotivateir on March 16th, 2012 7:38 pm

    Jaso really interests me. Hasn’t played as much as I thought he would this spring, but he’s a left handed hitting catcher with speed, and we got him for a mid-reliever with baggage. I expect to see him take a lot more starts from Olivo this year.

  25. stevemotivateir on March 16th, 2012 7:43 pm

    Iwakuma’s probably working on a specific pitch plan. I’d be surprised if he didn’t make the team despite the rough outings.

  26. stevemotivateir on March 16th, 2012 7:44 pm

    This inning went better for him. Hopefully he’s settling down.

  27. groundzero55 on March 16th, 2012 8:00 pm

    Ackley with 3 hits and no runs scored, including a double.

    His hits were all doubles.

    Iwakuma’s probably working on a specific pitch plan. I’d be surprised if he didn’t make the team despite the rough outings.

    If he’s been outpitched by other candidates through Spring Training, I don’t see why the team would go with him. So far, he has not looked consistent at all.

  28. stevemotivateir on March 16th, 2012 8:13 pm

    He has been out-pitched by pretty much every other potential starter. But seems like they have plans for him, as they’re quick to defend and pass-off his struggles. Ramirez would get my vote, followed closely by Furbush, assuming Beavan and Millwood have the other two potentially-open spots locked.

  29. PouxBear on March 16th, 2012 8:25 pm

    Anybody know where to watch the game online? I can’t get gameday on my iPad.

  30. stevemotivateir on March 16th, 2012 8:26 pm

    Maybe yahoo sports?

  31. stevemotivateir on March 16th, 2012 8:27 pm

    my bad, not available there either

  32. argh on March 16th, 2012 10:03 pm

    That Oakland game looked depressingly like one of last year’s.

  33. Paul B on March 17th, 2012 6:35 am

    Even with Montero and Jaso, one of my fears is that we will see a lot of Olivo again this year.

    I just get the impression that Wedge sees the dingers, and not the OPS. Maybe I’m wrong, but that is the message I saw in his decisions last year.

  34. wtnuke on March 17th, 2012 6:56 am

    Can we bank some of these Spring Training wins and keep them for the regular season? Like, anytime we face a team that we beat in ST, we just say “Nope, we already played this and won. We can play again, but just for funsies.” Is that something we can start doing?

  35. Daniel Carroll on March 18th, 2012 7:08 pm

    To Mariners35:

    Who’s Daniel Carroll? I’m Daniel Carroll.

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