Game 5, Mariners at Rangers

Dave · April 9, 2012 at 1:38 pm · Filed Under Mariners 

Noesi vs Darvish, 5:05 pm

It’s Yu Darvish’s Major League debut, so the Mariners are kind of an afterthought tonight. I had a chance to sit behind the plate for one of Darvish’s spring training starts, and his breaking stuff is ridiculous, so there’s a good chance he makes a lot of guys look foolish tonight. However, he did struggle with his fastball command all spring and seemed to live on the outer half of the plate, so the team would do well to make Darvish throw strikes before they go up there hacking. If they can get into good hitting counts, they can sit on a fastball and neutralize his secondary stuff to a degree. If he’s throwing strikes, they’re screwed anyway – at least patience at the plate will give them a fighting chance if he’s not sharp. Aggressiveness is exactly the wrong approach to take tonight.

There’s one line-up change as Jesus Montero is on the bench due to a stomach bug, so Dustin Ackley moves to DH and Munenori Kawasaki gets the start. I haven’t seen an official comment from Wedge on why Kawasaki gets the call over a guy who can hit – like say Casper Wells – but I’d imagine you’re likely to hear something about “experience” and “he’s seen this guy before”. Yes, Kawasaki faced Darvish in Japan, but he was a trainwreck. According to the M’s, Kawasaki hit .221 with two walks and 19 strikeouts in 88 plate appearances, an abysmal line that suggests that any information we should gain (which is none, really, but assuming you put any faith in batter-pitcher match-ups to begin with) from their batter-pitcher matchup is that Kawasaki can’t hit Darvish.

But, hey, that’s Eric Wedge for you. I wonder what would have to happen for Casper Wells to get some playing time? Seems like we’re not going to find out any time soon.

Figgins, LF
Ackley, DH
Ichiro, RF
Smoak, 1B
Seager, 3B
Saunders, CF
Olivo, C
Kawasaki, 2B
Ryan, SS

Comments

119 Responses to “Game 5, Mariners at Rangers”

  1. Westside guy on April 9th, 2012 1:47 pm

    Well, for what little it’s worth… at least Darvish is a righty. For Saunders’ sake, anyway. hehe

  2. Paul B on April 9th, 2012 2:01 pm

    If Wedge’s reason for Kawasaki over Wells, or, even, say instead of Liddi, is to get another lefty in the lineup, then one could ask why Olivo over Jaso?

  3. FELIXisKING on April 9th, 2012 2:03 pm

    Man what’s up with our health? All those guys battling the flu and now Montero a scratch because of illness?

  4. nickman66 on April 9th, 2012 2:05 pm

    I ask why Olivo over Jaso everyday.

  5. Mariners35 on April 9th, 2012 2:21 pm

    I wonder what would have to happen for Casper Wells to get some playing time?

    Figgins getting DFA’d or traded, and Guti and Carp still on the DL?

  6. Westside guy on April 9th, 2012 2:59 pm

    I’m really beginning to wonder why Zduriencik went out and got Jaso, given that Wedge still seems hellbent on the “Olivo is our everyday catcher” meme.

  7. nickman66 on April 9th, 2012 3:03 pm

    It’s not even a funny meme anymore. Just a sad one..

  8. turin07 on April 9th, 2012 3:45 pm

    I don’t disagree with lefty Kawasaki getting playing time over Wells just now. It’s only the 5th game. Hard to say who hits better at this point.

  9. Edgar4Hall on April 9th, 2012 4:01 pm

    Or could it be as simple as ownership attempting to garner more press in japan with one more Japanese player out there? Or maybe I’m a conspiracy theorist but I agree that it doesn’t make as much baseball sense as having a better bat in there

  10. Paul B on April 9th, 2012 4:02 pm

    Really? You think Kawasaki is a better hitter than Wells?

    Why would you think that?

  11. Westside guy on April 9th, 2012 4:10 pm

    Wells doesn’t do pushups at first base!

  12. frontstreetfan on April 9th, 2012 4:21 pm

    Seven Left hand bats by my count. I would say that’s a statement. What’s the over under on Passed balls and wild pitches tonight? 3-4? I say 3 since Noesi is around the plate. Half of the wild pitches charged to our pitchers are really just poor catching by Olivo. This is the Major Leagues and we need a major league catcher, unfortunately Olivo isn’t. Tired of the usual 3-4 per game that get by Olivo. That bothers me a lot more than Kawasaki starting over Wells.

  13. msfanmike on April 9th, 2012 4:33 pm

    Ditto on the Olivo comments. Jaso makes a lot more sense for a start today at catcher. I wonder if Montero is suffering from the same affliction that many LHB’s had on days when Randy Johnson pitched. Maybe he will rally enough for a late game pinch hitting appearance. I would like to see wells and Jaso sometime soon, though. Olivo still has last years frying pan stuck in his glove.

  14. 9inningknowitall on April 9th, 2012 4:40 pm

    I kind of wish Z would just trade Olivo and then tell Wedge “oops didn’t know you wanted to play him.” I think that was the best part of the movie Moneyball when Billy Beane just got rid of any player he didn’t want playing.

  15. msfanmike on April 9th, 2012 4:57 pm

    Problem for beane was that he traded 1B Pena when he should have just held onto him, but I understand your point. No danger in “billy-beaning” Olivo away.

  16. Slats on April 9th, 2012 5:07 pm

    Figgins lead off walk.

  17. Lauren, token chick on April 9th, 2012 5:12 pm

    As always, I’m surprised I remember my USSM password after the offseason. Victory!

  18. msfanmike on April 9th, 2012 5:13 pm

    Ichiro with a “scud” … Sweet!

  19. Slats on April 9th, 2012 5:16 pm

    Bases loaded for Seattle – lets score a run at least.

  20. stevemotivateir on April 9th, 2012 5:16 pm

    Smoak! Nice to see him hit the ball hard (twice in the same at bat!)

  21. stevemotivateir on April 9th, 2012 5:18 pm

    Seager!

  22. Slats on April 9th, 2012 5:18 pm

    Seager baby!

  23. Lauren, token chick on April 9th, 2012 5:18 pm

    Woo! I think Darvish is a fascinating story, but I’m happy for him to start succeeding NEXT time, against some other team.

  24. MrZDevotee on April 9th, 2012 5:19 pm

    I’m gonna guess Darvish is a little nervous… ‘Cause I can’t imagine any scenario where his choice for a 1-2 pitch with the bases loaded was a fastball down the middle.

  25. wabbles on April 9th, 2012 5:20 pm

    OK, I’ll be the first to say it. Break up this Mariners juggernaut! It’s bad for the game!

  26. stevemotivateir on April 9th, 2012 5:21 pm

    I love that all of the M’s are making Darvish through a lot of pitches

  27. stevemotivateir on April 9th, 2012 5:22 pm

    Nice! It’s the night of the living bloopers!

  28. Slats on April 9th, 2012 5:23 pm

    Who are these Mariners?

  29. MrZDevotee on April 9th, 2012 5:23 pm

    Olivo is obviously “gritty” and “clutch”– and what team doesn’t need gritty, clutch veterans?!

  30. msfanmike on April 9th, 2012 5:24 pm

    Like I said … Miggy needs to play today. Come on Mune – own him. He’s throwing a ton of pitches

  31. djw on April 9th, 2012 5:24 pm

    Rangers broadcast team is not pleased….

  32. MrZDevotee on April 9th, 2012 5:25 pm

    *deleted*

  33. msfanmike on April 9th, 2012 5:27 pm

    Great start. I love it!

  34. DaKine on April 9th, 2012 5:29 pm

    My irrational exuberance has kicked in again

  35. MrZDevotee on April 9th, 2012 5:29 pm

    This is SO different than the M’s teams that didn’t know you were allowed to score runs before the 5th inning of a game. Nice job boys!

  36. okinawadave on April 9th, 2012 5:29 pm

    >Rangers broadcast team is not pleased….

    Neither is the Japanese broadcast team. They are saying this a big surprise and their tone is decidedly depressed.

  37. MrZDevotee on April 9th, 2012 5:31 pm

    On the radio today they were talking about the last time a big name Japanese pitcher debuted against the Mariners… When Felix threw a one hitter at Fenway for Dice K’s rather bleh major league debut.

  38. Phoenix4Ms on April 9th, 2012 5:34 pm

    Noesi is missing his mark as well tonight…

  39. MrZDevotee on April 9th, 2012 5:34 pm

    Blowers is calling Yu “Jarvis”… I swear I just heard him say it twice.

  40. MrZDevotee on April 9th, 2012 5:37 pm

    (faint)
    Foul!

    (stands back up)

  41. stevemotivateir on April 9th, 2012 5:37 pm

    wow… lucky

  42. stevemotivateir on April 9th, 2012 5:39 pm

    Iwakuma might be making his debut tonight if Noesi keeps throwing tons of pitches.

  43. msfanmike on April 9th, 2012 5:39 pm

    Nice pitch to get Hamilton! Biggest surprise is Miggy hung onto it

  44. msfanmike on April 9th, 2012 5:40 pm

    News a pitchers best friend to get out of this. Belter is the perfect guy for it, too

  45. stevemotivateir on April 9th, 2012 5:40 pm

    crap

  46. msfanmike on April 9th, 2012 5:40 pm

    Wtf Ryan?

  47. Slats on April 9th, 2012 5:41 pm

    Ryan – that’s going to hurt us.

  48. msfanmike on April 9th, 2012 5:41 pm

    Ryan’s run. Crap!!!

  49. msfanmike on April 9th, 2012 5:43 pm

    You can’t assume the double play in the scorebook, but sometimes you should anyway.

  50. MrZDevotee on April 9th, 2012 5:45 pm

    Brendan Ryan might not ACTUALLY be feeling better… 3 pitch K with the bases loaded… errant throw to first.

    Ergh.

  51. stevemotivateir on April 9th, 2012 5:45 pm

    Ryan owes us a two-run home run now. Someone give him the message please

  52. msfanmike on April 9th, 2012 5:46 pm

    Crisp inning.

  53. MrZDevotee on April 9th, 2012 5:47 pm

    Steve-
    But if Ryan hits a ball hard enough to go out of the park, he’ll probaby be out of commission 10-14 days afterwards. *laugh* (sigh)

  54. seahopp on April 9th, 2012 5:48 pm

    Man, these Rangers broadcasters are pretty sloppy. I’m not going to say another bad word about Dave Sims again.

  55. stevemotivateir on April 9th, 2012 5:49 pm

    Ichiro!!

  56. wabbles on April 9th, 2012 5:49 pm

    Ichiro! That’s why he gets the exclamation point, folks.

  57. msfanmike on April 9th, 2012 5:49 pm

    That was no scud. Rope city.

  58. Slats on April 9th, 2012 5:51 pm

    Seager on fire!

  59. stevemotivateir on April 9th, 2012 5:51 pm

    Wow, Seager is just creamin’ the ball!

  60. msfanmike on April 9th, 2012 5:51 pm

    Ackley and soak must be in a hurry to get back out on defense. And seager!!!! Thank god for that guy.

  61. msfanmike on April 9th, 2012 5:53 pm

    Smoak. Damn auto correct

  62. msfanmike on April 9th, 2012 5:55 pm

    Saunders is showing the ability to lay off some of the crap breaking balls in the dirt ….. And the fastball on the inside corner. Still a good inning though. Gonna probably need 9 runs today.

  63. Jack Howland on April 9th, 2012 5:58 pm

    fangraphs gives us about 71% chance of winning right now. Not sure I’m that confidant.

  64. stevemotivateir on April 9th, 2012 6:04 pm

    Neither pitcher is going to last 5 innings at this rate.

  65. stevemotivateir on April 9th, 2012 6:05 pm

    Olivo just had the ugliest swing of the year for the Mariners, maybe all of baseball.

  66. just a fan on April 9th, 2012 6:05 pm

    At least the first pitch was a strike.

  67. seahopp on April 9th, 2012 6:05 pm

    The most frustrating part about Wedge as manager is the aggressive attitude. Why go up and swing wildly?

  68. just a fan on April 9th, 2012 6:06 pm

    Munenori with a walk and a single. Who needs Casper Wells.

  69. Phoenix4Ms on April 9th, 2012 6:08 pm

    MUNI! Starting to love this guy…

  70. stevemotivateir on April 9th, 2012 6:08 pm

    @seahopp

    I don’t think that was Wedge pushing Olivo.

  71. mln on April 9th, 2012 6:08 pm

    Munenori owns Darvish!

  72. just a fan on April 9th, 2012 6:09 pm

    Wedge could tell Olivo to use some patience and he’d still strike out swinging at three balls out of the zone.

  73. seahopp on April 9th, 2012 6:10 pm

    @steve

    I don’t think so either, it just seems like a tolerated approach. Not taking enough pitches has been a problem for a couple years.

  74. stevemotivateir on April 9th, 2012 6:10 pm

    Ackley’s the only one who hasn’t been on base yet, so he’s due. How about a triple?

  75. stevemotivateir on April 9th, 2012 6:12 pm

    Well, whatever he’s tellin’ them now, it’s working so far! (though it wont last long with at-bats like the one Olivo just had)

  76. stevemotivateir on April 9th, 2012 6:14 pm

    That was still a good at-bat. Darvish has now thrown 74 pitches.

  77. lalo on April 9th, 2012 6:17 pm

    Hope Noesi can pitch 6 innings, I don´t want to see Iwakuma in the 5th inning.

  78. stevemotivateir on April 9th, 2012 6:23 pm

    Funny, he hit that so hard, it squeezed through the netting

  79. Slats on April 9th, 2012 6:25 pm

    Lucky break for Seattle – Hamilton was safe.

  80. stevemotivateir on April 9th, 2012 6:26 pm

    Sims is annoying. You couldn’t tell if the glove touched him before his toe caught the plate. The umpire would have had the best view.

  81. Phoenix4Ms on April 9th, 2012 6:26 pm

    Pretty sure every pitch from Noesi has been a ball or directly over the plate.

  82. 68GTCS on April 9th, 2012 6:27 pm

    why didn’t Ryan go for the DP?

  83. stevemotivateir on April 9th, 2012 6:27 pm

    *couldn’t tell if his toe touched before the glove got him;) Can’t help but wonder now if Ryan should have tried to turn the double play

  84. stevemotivateir on April 9th, 2012 6:29 pm

    He had bad angle for the double play, but still, probably should have attempted it. Especially with Noesi struggling a bit.

  85. just a fan on April 9th, 2012 6:30 pm

    Amalgamating both of those replays, it looked like Hamilton was safe. The tag would’ve been on his left buttock from the 1st base camera, and the camera down the line showed he had not touched the left buttock as Hamilton touched the plate.

    And if amalgamating isn’t the right word, I don’t care.

  86. stevemotivateir on April 9th, 2012 6:41 pm

    Really wishing Ryan had went for the double play now.

  87. charliebrown on April 9th, 2012 6:41 pm

    And that, ladies and gentlemen, is why a lot of fans lobby for a “big bopper” in the lineup.

  88. msfanmike on April 9th, 2012 6:43 pm

    Correction … The M’s are going to need 14 runs. Nine won’t do it today.

  89. stevemotivateir on April 9th, 2012 6:43 pm

    I hate that about Texas…. they can exploit mistakes, perfect pitches, and situations you’d never expect.

  90. wabbles on April 9th, 2012 6:43 pm

    So we get to see the kid pitch! Go Erasmo!

  91. just a fan on April 9th, 2012 6:43 pm

    Ryan made the right play. He was unlikely to get the double play, and prevented a run.

    Good, Erasmo time!

  92. stevemotivateir on April 9th, 2012 6:46 pm

    Ryan made a judgement call. It probably was the right move, but you can’t help but wonder if he could have pulled it off, given the results shortly after.

  93. Phoenix4Ms on April 9th, 2012 6:46 pm

    Ramirez looks like a way more quality starter then Noesi.

  94. stevemotivateir on April 9th, 2012 6:47 pm

    Wow, that could have been the worst celebration I’ve ever seen by a fan

  95. stevemotivateir on April 9th, 2012 6:48 pm

    It was the old “sprinkler” move, the Seahawk receivers used to do!

  96. msfanmike on April 9th, 2012 6:48 pm

    Mr Hamilton welcomes reaso to the show. Can’t miss down and in to that guy. You might as well place the ball on a tee.

  97. sodomojo1 on April 9th, 2012 6:48 pm

    I knew I shouldn’t have got my hopes up

  98. msfanmike on April 9th, 2012 6:50 pm

    Reaso? Awesome spell check. Let’s try again. Erasmo erasmo erasmo.

  99. seattlesonsofbaseball on April 9th, 2012 6:50 pm

    Not sure why i read that Noesi’s pitch to Cruz was good… maybe for a power hitter to crush. It was a fastball belt high trailing inside for a pull power hitter. How about a pitch to the bottom outside corner… THAT’S a good pitch. You can’t keep a pitch up against the Rangers and expect many to stay in the park.

  100. stevemotivateir on April 9th, 2012 6:50 pm

    It’s still early. Four innings left to score some runs. Darvish will be done soon, anything can happen!

  101. seattlesonsofbaseball on April 9th, 2012 6:52 pm

    stevemotivateir… true, but also 4 more innings to see if the Rangers can score over 15. This pitching staff is going to get a lesson on how to NOT pitch to power hitters. We only had to worry about Cespedes at Oakland, who hit 3 home runs against us so far, now the entire Texas team is able to and they’re showing us why our young pitchers still have a LONG way to go.

  102. stevemotivateir on April 9th, 2012 6:54 pm

    Hey, you don’t have state what’s already in the back of my mind!

  103. Phoenix4Ms on April 9th, 2012 6:55 pm

    Suddenly having fond memories of Pineda & Fister…

  104. stevemotivateir on April 9th, 2012 6:55 pm

    To be fair, all pitchers have to beware with this Rangers line-up. They can beat-up anyone.

  105. stevemotivateir on April 9th, 2012 6:57 pm

    With Darvish being as wild as he’s been, it would be nice if the M’s remembered to take more pitches, like they had through the 3rd. That inning was way too easy for him.

  106. stevemotivateir on April 9th, 2012 6:58 pm

    Actually, Darvish is at 98 now, so he’s probably done anyway.

  107. stevemotivateir on April 9th, 2012 7:02 pm

    Ramirez is starting to look comfortable. Real nice pitch there to get Murphy.

  108. seattlesonsofbaseball on April 9th, 2012 7:11 pm

    We’ve completely let Yu get off the hook. The fact he’s pitching in the 6th after that 1st inning just shows this team can easily revert back to their B.S. baseball we’ve seen over the last few years. Great… that’s exactly what I was hoping for… (guzzling Jack D.)

  109. texasmarinerfan on April 9th, 2012 7:12 pm

    Does anyone know what the Nasty Factor indicator on Gameday means?

  110. seattlesonsofbaseball on April 9th, 2012 7:13 pm

    The ump’s strike zone definitely doesn’t seem to be helping Yu.

  111. stevemotivateir on April 9th, 2012 7:15 pm

    Wow, imagine if our pitchers went less than 6, and gave up 5 runs… think they’d get the ovation he just saw?!

  112. msfanmike on April 9th, 2012 7:17 pm

    I think it’s any pitch at or above 95 mph, but I am not certain.

  113. msfanmike on April 9th, 2012 7:24 pm

    If smoak had not come with so much hype, I wonder if he would have a starting job when carp returns. Wow – does this team need a threat in the 4-hole.

  114. terry on April 9th, 2012 7:24 pm

    Anyone else getting the feeling that tonight’s game will make or break the Ms season?

  115. lalo on April 9th, 2012 7:26 pm

    Erasmo looks pretty good, he´ll be in the rotation soon, Noesi, Millwood and Beavan are not locks by any means.

  116. msfanmike on April 9th, 2012 7:39 pm

    No – not getting that feeling; although I am getting the feeling that a 1-3 trek through texas might be a gift

  117. msfanmike on April 9th, 2012 8:02 pm

    Sherill sure is rough on righties.

  118. just a fan on April 9th, 2012 8:03 pm

    Well of course Sherrill allowed a homer to Kinsler. He’s a LOOGY. I hope Wedge just wanted to get some work in.

  119. msfanmike on April 9th, 2012 8:25 pm

    At least we got one last chance to see olivo hit! That was great!! How much does Wedge hate Jaso to not give him an AB in the 9th inning of a 6 run deficit game. He’s got to be kidding.

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