Game 44, Rangers at Mariners

Dave · May 21, 2012 at 6:52 pm · Filed Under Mariners 

Hernandez vs Darvish, 7:10 pm.

Happy Felix Day!

The pitching match-up is obviously the story here. The M’s did a nice job taking pitches and making Darvish get himself in trouble in their first outing against him, but he’s gotten his command under control over the last few weeks, so they’ll have to get some hits tonight.

Ackley, 2B
Saunders, CF
Ichiro, RF
Seager, 3B
Montero, DH
Smoak, 1B
Jaso, C
Carp, LF
Ryan, SS

Comments

146 Responses to “Game 44, Rangers at Mariners”

  1. stevemotivateir on May 21st, 2012 6:57 pm

    This should be a fun game! Been looking forward to this for a while.

  2. Slats on May 21st, 2012 6:59 pm

    I’ve been looking forward to this King Felix vs Darvish matchup.

    Lets go M’s!

  3. Slats on May 21st, 2012 6:59 pm

    Oh and in other news, Geoff Baker has figured out how the M’s can walk more!

    Hit more homers! HA.

  4. stevemotivateir on May 21st, 2012 7:21 pm

    Ichiro!!!! That oughtta shut-up the critics!

  5. Section329 on May 21st, 2012 7:22 pm

    Go Ichi!

  6. Slats on May 21st, 2012 7:23 pm

    Ichiro!

  7. Slats on May 21st, 2012 7:27 pm

    Damn, would have been nice to get Ichiro home.

    Good to have the lead though!

  8. Westside guy on May 21st, 2012 7:28 pm

    They maybe caught a break on that hit by Ichiro, but I suspect Saunders would’ve been home regardless.

  9. MX on May 21st, 2012 7:32 pm

    Who else think those “KKKK” chanting is annoying?

  10. Westside guy on May 21st, 2012 7:33 pm

    I have a love/hate relationship with Adrian Beltre.

  11. Westside guy on May 21st, 2012 7:33 pm

    I am in agreement with you, MX.

  12. Slats on May 21st, 2012 7:35 pm

    Double play!

  13. stevemotivateir on May 21st, 2012 7:40 pm

    I feel the same about Beltre. It’s hard not to like him, though, it’s easier when he’s in a Rangers uniform, and playing against Seattle.

  14. msfanmike on May 21st, 2012 7:43 pm

    Launch it, Carp

  15. Westside guy on May 21st, 2012 7:47 pm

    Mainly my “hate” is because he left, even though I totally understand why. :-D

  16. jmcwalter on May 21st, 2012 7:48 pm

    Good to see Carp make Darvish work, too bad he couldn’t turn it into a hit.

  17. stevemotivateir on May 21st, 2012 7:51 pm

    Beltre’s leaving wouldn’t have stung so much, if we could have just skipped over the last two years, and gone straight to the present, with Seager being his replacement.

  18. marcus_andrews on May 21st, 2012 7:53 pm

    For some reason Ian Kinsler scares me as much or more than any hitter we face. Every time he’s up I picture him crushing a high and in fastball over the left field fence. It seems like he’s done that to us more time than I can count but maybe it’s just me replaying it over and over in my head.

  19. stevemotivateir on May 21st, 2012 7:56 pm

    Wow, how many jokes are we going to hear, about the Mariners wearing “Rainiers” jerseys?

  20. Westside guy on May 21st, 2012 7:56 pm

    Pretty much the entire Rangers line-up scares me…

    Brendan!

  21. stevemotivateir on May 21st, 2012 7:57 pm

    I think all of the Rangers hitters have done that to us, over, and over!

  22. marcus_andrews on May 21st, 2012 7:59 pm

    True. I still think the most notorious Mariner killer was Rafael Palmero. He destroyed us!

  23. stevemotivateir on May 21st, 2012 7:59 pm

    I’d like to see Ackley bunt for a base hit sometime. Not right now, but maybe to lead-off a game? He’s faster than many probably realize and it would certainly catch the opponents off-guard.

  24. Westside guy on May 21st, 2012 8:00 pm

    AGAIN with the bunting…

  25. stevemotivateir on May 21st, 2012 8:01 pm

    haha, very different! Not talking about sacrifice bunts, I’m talking about a real attempt for a base-hit.

  26. stevemotivateir on May 21st, 2012 8:01 pm

    geez, talk about bad timing, regarding bunting.

  27. DarkKnight1680 on May 21st, 2012 8:02 pm

    Fire. Eric. Wedge.

  28. henryv on May 21st, 2012 8:02 pm

    Eric Wedge strikes again.

    And soon Idiot Catcher will be back, too.

  29. stevemotivateir on May 21st, 2012 8:03 pm

    Ichiro!!

  30. DarkKnight1680 on May 21st, 2012 8:03 pm

    Love. Ichiro.

  31. marcus_andrews on May 21st, 2012 8:03 pm

    Wow, what a horrible decision! Yu has thrown a ton of pitches, hasn’t exactly been pin point and you give him an out. That’s horrible. I think we need a really stat-conscious bench coach that can whisper in Wedge’s ear so he makes maybe 25% fewer boneheaded decisions.

  32. msfanmike on May 21st, 2012 8:03 pm

    Well, we got the two runs on a single anyway. Just the way wedge designed it.

  33. msfanmike on May 21st, 2012 8:04 pm

    Great base running by Saunders.

  34. Section329 on May 21st, 2012 8:04 pm

    That’s Ichi-never coming through in the clutch:)

  35. stevemotivateir on May 21st, 2012 8:04 pm

    Great idea Marcus!

  36. stevemotivateir on May 21st, 2012 8:06 pm

    haha, yeah, our buddy dantheman, baker, and the other critics, must be squirming right now. Ichiro has struck twice tonight!

  37. Westside guy on May 21st, 2012 8:06 pm

    Yeah Steve – I knew what you meant.

    And right now these broadcasters… “getting Saunders off the hook”, as if that wasn’t Wedge’s fault.

  38. msfanmike on May 21st, 2012 8:06 pm

    Come on Jesus, make him pay.

  39. stevemotivateir on May 21st, 2012 8:07 pm

    What’s going on with Seager?! Apart from hitting well, he now has 3 walks in 4 or 5 games?

  40. marcus_andrews on May 21st, 2012 8:07 pm

    I know that seeing Wedge gone would be nice, but there must be something he’s doing to endear himself to players and management so changing the bench coach would be a concession that he makes some mistakes while also showing that they like the rest of what he brings to the table.

  41. stevemotivateir on May 21st, 2012 8:08 pm

    Funny, eh Westy? Saunders wouldn’t have put it on the wrong side, if WEDGE HADN’T CALLED FOR IT! Wedge’s fault far more than Saunders.

  42. Westside guy on May 21st, 2012 8:08 pm

    Ackley’s first time up, the way Darvish was hitting the corner… I thought we were in for a long night. But the M’s are doing pretty well, all things considered!

  43. DarkKnight1680 on May 21st, 2012 8:09 pm

    They don’t need a new bench coach. They need someone in the front office to say “If you sac bunt again you’re fired. And while you’re at it, Olivo=emergency only.”

  44. stevemotivateir on May 21st, 2012 8:10 pm

    At least Wedge has been fairly good with line-ups lately (having the right players in). Hopefully Olivo’s return doesn’t change that.

  45. msfanmike on May 21st, 2012 8:10 pm

    Sweet!

  46. Westside guy on May 21st, 2012 8:10 pm

    Marcus, I imagine you’re right… it’s just some of these decisions are so-oo frustrating.

  47. stevemotivateir on May 21st, 2012 8:11 pm

    Nice job Monty. That’s the right kind of sacrifice.

  48. marcus_andrews on May 21st, 2012 8:11 pm

    Dark Knight

    While I would love for that to happen, I think it’s borderline impossible to teach an old manager new trick. Wedge won’t stop but they must really like how he handles personalities. So if they are able to mitigate the harm done with his boneheaded decisions by having someone there to talk him out of them occasionally they would be making at least some progress.

  49. stevemotivateir on May 21st, 2012 8:12 pm

    The alternative, and a very real possibility, is consistent failure with sacrifice bunts. At some point he has to realize it isn’t working well.

  50. Kazinski on May 21st, 2012 8:13 pm

    Darvish has 68 pitches thru 3 innings. Is that good? I would almost rather have Darvish stay in than face Texas’ bullpen.

  51. Westside guy on May 21st, 2012 8:14 pm

    Hey Mike, it was POURING rain for a while here today. Hopefully you guys will bring us some drier weather Wednesday. :-D

  52. marcus_andrews on May 21st, 2012 8:15 pm

    Maybe our players should botch sac bunts intentionally so that he’ll stop them completely. Maybe Ackley and Saunders are already doing this and we just didn’t realize it!

  53. henryv on May 21st, 2012 8:15 pm

    I think Jack Z has to walk down and simply say, “Stop F—ing bunting, or I’m going to hire Daren Brown again.”

  54. Bwilliam on May 21st, 2012 8:18 pm

    I hate it when Wedge makes a terrible decision and then it works out anyways.

    Don’t get me wrong I’m happy to have the 3 runs but Wedge tried his best to prevent the big inning not create it.

    Go Felix!

  55. Westside guy on May 21st, 2012 8:20 pm

    Darvish must be intimidated by our hitting prowess – that’s the only explanation.

  56. Westside guy on May 21st, 2012 8:21 pm

    Wow, I am surprised by the number of empty seats.

  57. stevemotivateir on May 21st, 2012 8:22 pm

    There might be some truth to that Westy…. maybe he was a little intimidated, knowing our guys had roughed him up in the first outing?

  58. Slats on May 21st, 2012 8:22 pm

    Another walk!

  59. hidalgo on May 21st, 2012 8:23 pm

    Whirling Darvish didn’t count on the oh-so-patient Mariner hitters!

  60. Westside guy on May 21st, 2012 8:23 pm

    Hmmm… guess what’s coming here?

    Whoa, egg on MY face!

  61. Section329 on May 21st, 2012 8:23 pm

    Also surprised and delighted by the # of walks by the M’s.

  62. stevemotivateir on May 21st, 2012 8:24 pm

    OK, so Wedge was just given a gift… let’s see if he opens it, or trades it away.

  63. jmcwalter on May 21st, 2012 8:24 pm

    It’s ALWAYS a good thing when you run up the starter’s pitch count. That means you are getting on base and typically scoring runs.

  64. stevemotivateir on May 21st, 2012 8:25 pm

    Another walk! wow

  65. msfanmike on May 21st, 2012 8:25 pm

    Its been raining here today, too – so I am not sure what I will be able to bring on Wednesday. I think my seats will be just about where seagers bat landed.

  66. Westside guy on May 21st, 2012 8:25 pm

    Maybe Darvish is just distracted by the magnificence that is Ichiro…

  67. Westside guy on May 21st, 2012 8:26 pm

    ACKLEY!

  68. stevemotivateir on May 21st, 2012 8:26 pm

    Ackley!!

  69. msfanmike on May 21st, 2012 8:26 pm

    Sweet!!! On 0-2 … Love it!

  70. stevemotivateir on May 21st, 2012 8:27 pm

    Nice that Datz didn’t send Carp

  71. Section329 on May 21st, 2012 8:27 pm

    My God-M’s actually get a hit with bases loaded.

  72. hidalgo on May 21st, 2012 8:27 pm

    The world’s tallest #2 hitter!

  73. Kazinski on May 21st, 2012 8:28 pm

    Texas is playing a sloppy game. Hamilton’s error, Napoli’s passed ball, and a shitload of walks. That isn’t what Texas has been doing so far this season. Texas is the 2nd best fielding team in baseball and had the 3rd lowest BB/9.

  74. marcus_andrews on May 21st, 2012 8:28 pm

    Clearly game cast is way behind. I just watched Ackely take strike two..

  75. Slats on May 21st, 2012 8:29 pm

    “May the walk be with Yu”.

  76. Westside guy on May 21st, 2012 8:29 pm

    Napoli did a good job there with a crappy throw.

  77. Westside guy on May 21st, 2012 8:29 pm

    Hehe, just a bit Marcus.

  78. stevemotivateir on May 21st, 2012 8:30 pm

    What a weird inning. Walks, hit, two force-outs at home

  79. Westside guy on May 21st, 2012 8:31 pm

    Oh that curve was just sick.

  80. OffensivelyChallenged on May 21st, 2012 8:31 pm

    Come on Seager knock him out of the game.

  81. stevemotivateir on May 21st, 2012 8:31 pm

    Seager’s first GS right here…

  82. stevemotivateir on May 21st, 2012 8:32 pm

    Grand Strike-out, that is

  83. marcus_andrews on May 21st, 2012 8:32 pm

    That inning could have been much better than it was.. That’s the type of thing that has killed us against Texas in the past. Hopefully it doesn’t come back to bit us today.

  84. msfanmike on May 21st, 2012 8:33 pm

    Geez, Seager … That pitch could not have been any more down the middle.

    Shit, shit and shit! Missed an opportunity to put them away.

  85. marcus_andrews on May 21st, 2012 8:34 pm

    I meant bite us but was too late with the edit.

  86. stevemotivateir on May 21st, 2012 8:34 pm

    I wonder if Darvish is done for the night? Certainly can’t last too much longer.

  87. stevemotivateir on May 21st, 2012 8:35 pm

    There’s another player I’d like to see in a Mariner uniform (Cruz)

  88. Westside guy on May 21st, 2012 8:37 pm

    Wait, Angie – how exactly is Vernon Wells missing 8-10 weeks bad news for the Angels? He’s not very good.

  89. stevemotivateir on May 21st, 2012 8:38 pm

    I was thinking the same thing

  90. justjake on May 21st, 2012 8:38 pm

    Vernon Wells will be about as huge of a loss to the Angels as Olivo was to the M’s

  91. Westside guy on May 21st, 2012 8:39 pm

    I wonder if Toronto’s GM laughs hysterically whenever he hears anything about Vernon Wells…

  92. Westside guy on May 21st, 2012 8:40 pm

    Hehe, I think Olivo maybe provides more value than Vernon Wells.

  93. stevemotivateir on May 21st, 2012 8:41 pm

    That was one of the most surprising trades in recent years. He wasn’t hitting very well at the time of the trade, and for the Angels to absorb that contract…. geez.

  94. Westside guy on May 21st, 2012 8:42 pm

    Or maybe, more accurately – Vernon Wells provides even less value than Miguel Olivo.

  95. marcus_andrews on May 21st, 2012 8:42 pm

    The Blue Jays got bailed out twice. They’re very fortunate. Rios and Wells should be killing their payrolls but they were able to unload both contracts due to baffling decisions by other GMs. Maybe we should call the Angels and White Sox and tell them we’ve got a fast utility guy…

  96. stevemotivateir on May 21st, 2012 8:43 pm

    There ya go Westy, glass half-empty, regarding those two;)

  97. Westside guy on May 21st, 2012 8:44 pm

    Steve called it – Darvish is gone.

  98. Westside guy on May 21st, 2012 8:44 pm

    You know how much I like to complain about Olivo, but it is harder to find bad catchers than it is to find bad outfielders. :-D

  99. stevemotivateir on May 21st, 2012 8:44 pm

    Funny thing, is that I could see the White Sox taking a flyer on Figgins, if he’s released.

  100. marcus_andrews on May 21st, 2012 8:46 pm

    Well they do have Bret Morel playing third for them.. They might be the only team that wouldn’t see a noticeable decline if they had Figgins playing.

  101. justjake on May 21st, 2012 8:46 pm

    Mike Trout just hit an RBI double, and is hitting .354. Hurry back Vernon.

  102. stevemotivateir on May 21st, 2012 8:46 pm

    Has Smoak had an opposite field hit yet this season? Has he had an opposite field HR in his ML career?

  103. stevemotivateir on May 21st, 2012 8:47 pm

    Exactly, Marcus!

  104. Westside guy on May 21st, 2012 8:47 pm

    Mike Trout is amazing – I just wish he wasn’t in our division.

  105. marcus_andrews on May 21st, 2012 8:47 pm

    Trout is going to play regardless.. It’s more Bourjous that is seeing increased opportunity (which is still a major improvement for them).

  106. marcus_andrews on May 21st, 2012 8:48 pm

    Smoak went the other way in Tokyo, Steve.

  107. stevemotivateir on May 21st, 2012 8:48 pm

    Yeah, he’s fun to watch. The first game I saw him in, I couldn’t believe his speed.

  108. stevemotivateir on May 21st, 2012 8:49 pm

    Really? The HR in Tokyo? I watched that game, and I remember the HR, but I don’t remember it being opposite field.

  109. marcus_andrews on May 21st, 2012 8:50 pm

    I was 90% sure it was to the opposite field. Not positive but I sure thought it was.

  110. stevemotivateir on May 21st, 2012 8:51 pm

    Bourjous is nearly as interesting as Trout.

  111. stevemotivateir on May 21st, 2012 9:01 pm

    What a weird swing by Beltre!

  112. Section329 on May 21st, 2012 9:01 pm

    No knee HR for Beltre tonight.

  113. hidalgo on May 21st, 2012 9:03 pm

    I am wondering about the Cialis commercials. Those middle aged guys and their hot women really need some help?

  114. stevemotivateir on May 21st, 2012 9:03 pm

    You’re right Marcus, just saw a clip of it. He pulls the ball SO much, that I couldn’t remember seeing him go the other way.

  115. Westside guy on May 21st, 2012 9:07 pm

    I love Beltre when he hits like that.

    It’s like Miguel Olivo, but with talent.

  116. stevemotivateir on May 21st, 2012 9:09 pm

    Yeah, the difference, is that Beltre will make good contact as he puts everything into it.

  117. Westside guy on May 21st, 2012 9:12 pm

    I truly don’t understand how Wells has been so quickly relegated to the role of “late inning defensive replacement”.

  118. henryv on May 21st, 2012 9:14 pm

    I truly don’t understand how Wells has been so quickly relegated to the role of “late inning defensive replacement”.

    Given that they’re facing all right handed pitchers so far, it makes sense. Carp and Jaso are both better vs RHP than Wells.

    Against a LHP you’ve got a better argument for Wells.

  119. stevemotivateir on May 21st, 2012 9:17 pm

    Felix!

  120. stevemotivateir on May 21st, 2012 9:20 pm

    I think he meant in general, Henry. Wells doesn’t see a lot of playing time even against LHP.

  121. stevemotivateir on May 21st, 2012 9:21 pm

    Wow, Saunders nearly pulled that off!

  122. Slats on May 21st, 2012 9:27 pm

    I thought Baker said we had to hit more Homers to start walking?

    LOL

  123. Westside guy on May 21st, 2012 9:29 pm

    I’m sure GB sees the walks tonight as being created by the homers over the past few days.

    I’m just predicting his next article, don’t ask me to defend the position cuz I don’t buy it. :-D

  124. Kazinski on May 21st, 2012 9:30 pm

    Tough luck for Langerhans. Just when he might get some playing time for the Angels, after 2 games and 2 PA, and he separated his shoulder yesterday.

    I think the brought Langerhans up when Tori Hunter was put on the restricted list dealing with his sons legal problems.

  125. Westside guy on May 21st, 2012 9:31 pm

    Jesus!

  126. stevemotivateir on May 21st, 2012 9:31 pm

    Monty! Great running by Seager, too!

  127. Westside guy on May 21st, 2012 9:32 pm

    Oh, Hunter’s out too? I don’t think he’s particularly good anymore, but I didn’t realize the Angels were losing outfielders in bunches.

    Poor Ryan Langerhans – I liked the guy.

    Actually Hunter’s bat has held up these past few seasons, but he really doesn’t deserve those gold gloves anymore.

  128. henryv on May 21st, 2012 9:34 pm

    Wells doesn’t see a lot of playing time even against LHP.

    Fair point. But Casper Wells is basically a known and generally not particularly valuable commodity. Liddi is young and sexy and new, and we want to play with him.

  129. stevemotivateir on May 21st, 2012 9:38 pm

    Took them 8 innings to put 1 run on the board. I can live with that.

  130. stevemotivateir on May 21st, 2012 9:40 pm

    @Henry

    That’s what I don’t get… Wells is young too! Hasn’t been around THAT much longer. And I’d rather see him in left than Liddi, but yeah, I know what you mean. The interest seems to be elsewhere.

  131. Westside guy on May 21st, 2012 9:41 pm

    Felix!

  132. stevemotivateir on May 21st, 2012 9:45 pm

    This may sound like a dumb question, but I honestly don’t know the answer…. is there a stat, comparing PA’s and pitches taken? (average number of pitches in a PA)

  133. Section329 on May 21st, 2012 9:50 pm

    I am loving the jawing that Beltre and Felix are doing-they are good friends

  134. msfanmike on May 21st, 2012 9:52 pm

    Yes ^

    Sift through the fan graphs website. It might even be on the mariner team website if you click far enough through it.

  135. Westside guy on May 21st, 2012 9:55 pm

    I’ve even seen P/PA values on ESPN’s website.

    Actually ESPN does a reasonably good job with stats.

  136. Westside guy on May 21st, 2012 9:55 pm

    OW OW OW OW OW…

  137. Section329 on May 21st, 2012 9:56 pm

    Beltre-happy feet!

  138. stevemotivateir on May 21st, 2012 9:57 pm

    Hey Wedge…. you think Jaso doesn’t have the “grit” that you think Olivo has?!

  139. Westside guy on May 21st, 2012 9:58 pm

    Jaso is getting hit in every exposed body part!

  140. Westside guy on May 21st, 2012 9:59 pm

    That curve is a valuable pitch…

    YEAH!!

  141. stevemotivateir on May 21st, 2012 10:00 pm

    Great game!

  142. Westside guy on May 21st, 2012 10:01 pm

    Yu WHO???

  143. hidalgo on May 21st, 2012 10:01 pm

    Awwright M’s! You’ve climbed out of the cellar! And you’ve got 12 more home than road games on the schedule.

  144. GLS on May 21st, 2012 10:36 pm

    Kyle Seager got 2 walks today!

  145. Westside guy on May 21st, 2012 10:51 pm

    Darvish did have some control issues – I wonder how much of it was due to his facing such a lefty-dominated lineup?

  146. stevemotivateir on May 22nd, 2012 3:55 pm

    @Westy

    I found the stat I was looking for on ESPN (under expanded stats). Thanks! To my surprise, Figgins has the highest average of P/PA, so I guess that says something about the value of those numbers!

    I was curious about Olivo though. His numbers weren’t as bad as I expected, ranking 5th lowest, however, he has the worst BB/PA at .024. So he fouls a lot of pitches, but strikes-out a ton, and doesn’t walk. Nothing we didn’t already know. Bad results regardless of an extra pitch or two. Really hope he doesn’t take away starts from Jaso.

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