Game 70, Mariners at Diamondbacks

marc w · June 19, 2012 at 5:01 pm · Filed Under Mariners 

Erasmo Ramirez vs. Daniel Hudson, 6:40pm

Erasmo Ramirez takes the mound looking to improve on his starting debut which featured equal parts promise and frustration. He’s able to throw with above-average velocity and has above-average control, but he’s still finding it difficult to miss a lot of bats. Ground balls should help, but the margins are so slim, and if he misses his spots, those grounders turn into hard-hit balls.

Daniel Hudson starts for the D-Backs, one of their excellent young starting pitchers who comes in fresh off a 7 IP 1 R performance against the Texas Rangers. But after a breakout season in 2010 (during which he was traded to Arizona) and a great 2011 that saw him post nearly 5 fWAR, he’s been inconsistent and injury-plagued in 2012. He made all of three starts in April before going on the shelf with shoulder soreness (yeesh). He came back in late May, and his velocity’s down about 1 mph from where it was back in April. Overall, there’s not much different in terms of peripherals- his K% and BB% are down just slightly from where they were in 2011, for example. The big change is in his HR allowed, which is susceptible to huge swings when we’re talking about a sample of a half-dozen starts or so. Jason Vargas’ has seen his HRs spike in recent months and he was gracious enough to spot a couple of dingers to the Giants, so I think it’d be sporting for Hudson to continue to dispense meatballs liberally throughout his outing tonight.

The thing that initially gets your attention when watching Hudson is his release point. Similar to the White Sox Chris Sale, Hudson has a real sidearm/low three-quarter delivery, releasing the ball about 5′ from the ground. This helps him get good horizontal movement on his pitches, and his solid velocity (92-94) means he can get the occasional swing and miss. His stuff’s not in Sale’s league, but that hasn’t stopped him from being an effective SP. But I *am* surprised that he’s able to be effective against left-handed hitting line-ups. Almost everyone stacks lefties against Hudson, and I’m sure the M’s will too. When we think of deliveries like this, we often think of relievers like Sean Green (before he went full-on sidearm) or Jeff Nelson – guys with massive platoon splits. Here are Hudson’s. He’s actually gotten slightly better results off of lefties in his career (though this is largely BABIP driven). This is pretty counter-intuitive, even for someone with a good change-up, like Hudson.

There was just a fascinating (if math-y) article on *why* it’s tough for same-handed hitters to pick up the ball when facing a sidearmer. The short answer is that it’s easier for a RHB to track a pitch the closer it’s thrown to the first- baseline, and this has the effect of decreasing its apparent velocity to the hitter. Given this, it’s sort of remarkable that guys like Sale and Hudson can do what they do – namely, neutralize opposite-handed batters. This is relevant for M’s fans, because one of the knocks on Danny Hultzen was that his delivery might make him susceptible to good RH batters. Obviously, Hultzen’s got a great change-up too, but the angle would seem to give righties some advantages. So think of Hultzen tonight if the M’s get shut down by Hudson.

Hultzen starts the Southern League All-Star Game against the D-Backs prospect Tyler Skaggs tonight, and, to complete the rivalry, the Tacoma Rainiers host the D-Backs AAA affiliate, the Reno Aces tonight at Cheney. Trevor Bauer, the Diamondbacks prospect who many think will join the big club in a matter of weeks, gets the start.

The line-up:
1: Ichiro (RF)
2: Gutierrez (CF)
3: Seager (3B)
4: Montero (C)
5: Saunders (LF)
6: Smoak (1B)
7: Ackley (2B)
8: Ryan (SS)
9: Erasmooooo (SP)

Huh. Not as left-handed as I’d have guessed, frankly. I guess the M’s have seen Hudson’s splits too.

Comments

241 Responses to “Game 70, Mariners at Diamondbacks”

  1. The Nickster on June 19th, 2012 5:54 pm

    The anemic Mariners offense this season has become like a bad nightmare that harkens back to previous seasons. Does anyone have quick access to the numbers as to how we compare so far to last season, which I believe was one of the worst team offense performances in the DH era?

    I get so tired of this. If you’re going to lose games, at least score some to make it interesting.

  2. Westside guy on June 19th, 2012 6:02 pm

    I’ve seen people commenting on the 6:40 start time – but, as far as I know, no one has explained *why* the games start at 6:40. Anyone know?

  3. WTF_Ms on June 19th, 2012 6:03 pm

    Westy, it could be the time zone thing that Arizona does? Who knows.

  4. Westside guy on June 19th, 2012 6:05 pm

    Nickster – so far this year, the Mariners are averaging 3.99 runs per game.

    Last year they averaged 3.43 runs per game – so they’ve improved significantly just since last year.

    In the pit that was the 2010 season, they averaged 3.16 runs per game.

    Things really are looking up. These guys can play good baseball. They just can also play really bad baseball.

  5. marcus_andrews on June 19th, 2012 6:08 pm

    Westy-

    What I have heard is that it’s just that much cooler at 7:40 local time than 7:10 so they push it back. Basically it’s just the heat. Now I have no source or anything but that’s just what I had heard and have believed since.

  6. Westside guy on June 19th, 2012 6:16 pm

    It’s weird. I was trying (without success) to figure the reason for the timing via Google, and came across their schedule. Thing is, they don’t start all their night games at 6:40. They start some at 7:10 and a few at 7:15 even. Even in the same series, they might have one start at 6:40 and another at 7:10.

  7. marcus_andrews on June 19th, 2012 6:23 pm

    That is really strange. It seems like if it was a significant enough to move some of the start times they would do it for all of them.

    On a side note, when does the AA all-star game start? Or has it already?

  8. The Nickster on June 19th, 2012 6:23 pm

    Thanks Westy. I had a feeling it couldn’t be THAT bad (and I was thinking it was ’10 and not ’11 that was the worst–still haunts me apparently). You are right, I should try to see the glass half-full. It’s fun watching the kids play. Think long term, I keep telling myself, long term…

  9. terryoftacoma on June 19th, 2012 6:23 pm

    Westy.. They’re just weird. It’s the same time in Phoenix as it is in Seattle at this time of year.

  10. marcus_andrews on June 19th, 2012 6:29 pm

    I guess I put my knowledge (or should I stay lack there or) on full display just now.. haha

  11. Westside guy on June 19th, 2012 6:33 pm

    Nickster, I should probably point out that it drops to 3.73 runs/game if we lose that 21-point barrage in Texas.

    But I do think that game shows what the M’s are theoretically capable of (if everything – and I mean EVERYTHING – goes right).

    Hehe Marcus. It’s not like anyone else had an answer – we just had questions and some guesses.

  12. Westside guy on June 19th, 2012 6:34 pm

    Maybe it’s for all the retirees… although they’d probably lobby for 3:30 start times. :-D

  13. marcus_andrews on June 19th, 2012 6:41 pm

    I was at the game Friday and thought for sure i’d see hit #2,500.. took a little longer than anticipated but nice to see him get it either way

  14. texasmarinerfan on June 19th, 2012 6:42 pm

    ICHIRO!!!! Lets get 500 more of those

  15. Slats on June 19th, 2012 6:44 pm

    Ichiro!

  16. Paul B on June 19th, 2012 6:45 pm

    What is that dude yelling?

    To quote Steve Martin, “yeah, I remember when I had my first beer.”

  17. msfanmike on June 19th, 2012 6:45 pm

    6:40 start time: maybe because there are a lot of old people who live in Arizona. I don’t believe that State plays the daylight savings game. They keep their clocks “as is” year around.

  18. Paul B on June 19th, 2012 6:51 pm

    I think they should make a big deal when a batter gets 10 total bases, rather than a cycle.

  19. Paul B on June 19th, 2012 6:54 pm

    Would you rather have 2 homers and 2 doubles, or a cycle?

  20. msfanmike on June 19th, 2012 6:55 pm

    This guy cannot live up in the zone. I would sure like to see Erasmo have great command tonight.

  21. msfanmike on June 19th, 2012 6:59 pm

    Nice play by Smoak. Man, Erasmo is going to get lit up again tonight if he can’t get – and keep – the ball down. There were 3 hard hit balls that inning.

  22. vetted_coach on June 19th, 2012 7:00 pm

    12 total bases are better than 10 .

  23. Paul B on June 19th, 2012 7:03 pm

    That’s what I think, yet the guy with the cycle would get a lot more attention.

  24. msfanmike on June 19th, 2012 7:04 pm

    Pull power!

  25. texasmarinerfan on June 19th, 2012 7:04 pm

    SMOAK!!!!!

  26. TaeBoJackson on June 19th, 2012 7:05 pm

    Hultzen and Frankin to Tacoma, per Divish.

  27. Paul B on June 19th, 2012 7:05 pm

    I will point out that is an area in Safeco where it is easier to homer.

  28. Westside guy on June 19th, 2012 7:06 pm

    The loud jackass must’ve had to run to the bathroom already to piss out some beer – I don’t hear him now.

    Sure would hate to sit next to a bozo like that.

  29. Slats on June 19th, 2012 7:07 pm

    Smoak!

  30. stevemotivateir on June 19th, 2012 7:08 pm

    Nice to see the bottom of the order making him work.

  31. Slats on June 19th, 2012 7:09 pm

    Hultzen and Franklin getting called up to AAA.

  32. msfanmike on June 19th, 2012 7:10 pm

    “the cycle” just sounds cool. Two doubles and two homers needs a catchy name … Thats all. I would rather not have to leg out a triple at this age, so I like the double-double double-dinger idea better already.

  33. msfanmike on June 19th, 2012 7:11 pm

    OKC up by 3 at half

  34. vetted_coach on June 19th, 2012 7:12 pm

    Paul B

    Bill James has a formula for predicted RBI. It’s in this year’s Solid Fools Gold. 2 doubles and 2 HR equate to more run production than a cycle. Theory.

  35. stevemotivateir on June 19th, 2012 7:15 pm

    How about a “Super Cycle” and a “Uber Cycle”, when there’s more than on extra base hit, but no single? Like, two doubles, a triple, and a HR? Or two doubles & two HR’s.

  36. Westside guy on June 19th, 2012 7:16 pm

    It all pales in comparison to the four-homer game. Cammy rocks!

  37. Westside guy on June 19th, 2012 7:17 pm

    So if you’ve already got a homer, a triple, and a double… do you dog it if you get another hit?

  38. stevemotivateir on June 19th, 2012 7:17 pm

    Ultra Cycle for Cammy

  39. Westside guy on June 19th, 2012 7:18 pm

    Ultra Cycle – sounds like some super-duper laundry detergent you’d find at Costco. :-D

  40. vetted_coach on June 19th, 2012 7:18 pm

    4 homers =. “pop”cycle

  41. Westside guy on June 19th, 2012 7:18 pm

    Oh, man, coach, that was so bad it made me laugh and groan at the same time.

  42. vetted_coach on June 19th, 2012 7:20 pm

    Wondering if Smoak’s vision is better inside a closed roof…he hasn’t hit a fast ball like that in a month.

  43. Westside guy on June 19th, 2012 7:23 pm

    Ichiro!!

  44. stevemotivateir on June 19th, 2012 7:23 pm

    Ichiro!!

  45. Westside guy on June 19th, 2012 7:23 pm

    Think Ichiro’s been reading USS Mariner? hehehe

  46. Westside guy on June 19th, 2012 7:24 pm

    Good lord, WHY have Guti bunt???

  47. The_Waco_Kid on June 19th, 2012 7:24 pm

    Ha, give him more days off!

  48. Westside guy on June 19th, 2012 7:25 pm

    Seager needs a surfboard strap.

  49. stevemotivateir on June 19th, 2012 7:26 pm

    At least we’re not seeing a bunt here

  50. stevemotivateir on June 19th, 2012 7:26 pm

    Seager!

  51. Slats on June 19th, 2012 7:27 pm

    Ichiro going for the cycle!

  52. vetted_coach on June 19th, 2012 7:27 pm

    Close to .400 w/risp. (Seager)

  53. Westside guy on June 19th, 2012 7:34 pm

    Good thing Olivo’s not catching – when WFB is up to bat, all that grit flying around could be bad for the umpire’s lungs and eyes.

  54. Paul B on June 19th, 2012 7:35 pm

    Why do they always get bet….

    Nah, I just can’t keep a straight face on that one.

  55. Westside guy on June 19th, 2012 7:37 pm

    It was a nice hit by Willie, I’ll give him that.

    And I like him more now that he’s not tying up one of our roster spots.

  56. WTF_Ms on June 19th, 2012 7:41 pm

    So,up in the zone isn’t working Erasmo….

  57. Slats on June 19th, 2012 7:41 pm

    There goes the lead.

  58. vetted_coach on June 19th, 2012 7:41 pm

    BP

  59. Paul B on June 19th, 2012 7:42 pm

    The middle of the zone, not so much either.

  60. msfanmike on June 19th, 2012 7:42 pm

    Hit me “harder”

    Geez, get the damn ball DOWN!

  61. taylor.mariner on June 19th, 2012 7:44 pm

    Anyone in favor of seeing Danny Hultzen take over Erasmo’s next scheduled start?

  62. Paul B on June 19th, 2012 7:46 pm

    I was curious, so went to fangraphs and looked up Bloomquist.

    His total WAR in the last 4 years (post Mariners) is equal to exactly zero.

  63. WTF_Ms on June 19th, 2012 7:47 pm

    I don’t know about giving up on Erasmo just yet. And let Hultzen start a few in AAA.

  64. Paul B on June 19th, 2012 7:48 pm

    I’d like to see Iwakuma swapped with Noesi. Which, IIRC, is exactly what Dave suggested a few days ago.

  65. stevemotivateir on June 19th, 2012 7:49 pm

    Kinda hard to watch Montero tryna throw to second. I hope he get’s that ironed-out.

  66. taylor.mariner on June 19th, 2012 7:49 pm

    Just throwing it out there, apparently Sims didn’t like that idea either.

  67. vetted_coach on June 19th, 2012 7:50 pm

    Sims – ever brilliant – just “predicted” that Hultzen and Franklin’s next move would be from AA to AAA.

  68. stevemotivateir on June 19th, 2012 7:51 pm

    That error made that inning a lot worse for Erasmo. Way too early to give up on him.

  69. stevemotivateir on June 19th, 2012 7:52 pm

    haha, I was just saying the same thing to my lady, vetted_coach

  70. Slats on June 19th, 2012 7:53 pm

    Nice Ackley!

  71. Paul B on June 19th, 2012 7:54 pm

    Good to see Ackley hit a pitch up in the zone.

  72. vetted_coach on June 19th, 2012 7:55 pm

    Ackley: 2AB, 11 pitches, 1BB, 1 hit. Off of a 2-4 night yesterday. Be nice for him to start picking it up.

  73. stevemotivateir on June 19th, 2012 7:55 pm

    That’s encouraging…. Ackley hitting a pitch that he’s been struggling with. Maybe he’s made an adjustment?

  74. Westside guy on June 19th, 2012 7:56 pm

    Sheesh, Ryan needs a tether too!

  75. WTF_Ms on June 19th, 2012 7:57 pm

    Is the pine tar runny in the heat? Bats a slipping!

  76. msfanmike on June 19th, 2012 8:03 pm

    This guy is not a Major League pitcher. Not yet, anyway.

  77. Slats on June 19th, 2012 8:03 pm

    Horrible pitch.

  78. Breadbaker on June 19th, 2012 8:03 pm

    “Long gone”, Mr. Sims, was Ernie Harwell’s home run call. I knew Ernie Harwell. I grew up listening to him. You, Mr. Sims, are no Ernie Harwell.

  79. stevemotivateir on June 19th, 2012 8:05 pm

    Ramirez has a knack for finding the plate. He just needs to hit the center of the plate, less.

  80. Slats on June 19th, 2012 8:07 pm

    Keep the ball down!

  81. Westside guy on June 19th, 2012 8:07 pm

    MOVE THE FENCES OUT!

  82. vetted_coach on June 19th, 2012 8:08 pm

    Curve, then a change. I knew the FB was coming next, and so did Parra. He’s pitching backwards. And not locating very well. Guy’s got 4 pitches. He should get better. 95 mph is still 95 mph… But if you’re center cut all the time..kaboom!

    Aaron Hill is a serious hitter.

  83. easternWAmsfan on June 19th, 2012 8:08 pm

    Whose coaching these young pitchers?! 1-2 count.. do not throw a fastball. Especially when the entire team is sitting dead red .. sheeesh

  84. WTF_Ms on June 19th, 2012 8:08 pm

    This TEAM isn’t a Major League team….not yet. :(

  85. Paul B on June 19th, 2012 8:08 pm

    Every pitcher will have days when he doesn’t have it. I’d like to see him pitch a couple more times before I write him off.

    On the other hand, do we have a middle reliever we could have ran out there about an inning ago?

  86. WTF_Ms on June 19th, 2012 8:10 pm

    Paul, they’re saving Iwakuma to start in place of Noesi? We can hope, right?

  87. Slats on June 19th, 2012 8:11 pm

    Another Ichiro hit!

  88. msfanmike on June 19th, 2012 8:12 pm

    3/4 of the way to shutting up Bob and Groz for a day.

  89. stevemotivateir on June 19th, 2012 8:12 pm

    I like that he pitched his way out of that inning with a strike-out. Didn’t look like his confidence was shaken.

    I agree with ya, Paul. I’d like to see him get at least 5-6 starts.

  90. vetted_coach on June 19th, 2012 8:13 pm

    Where’s the friggin’ triple?! Guy sucks…

  91. Westside guy on June 19th, 2012 8:14 pm

    Hey Wedge, have Guti bunt again.

  92. Slats on June 19th, 2012 8:17 pm

    Seager bomb!

  93. Westside guy on June 19th, 2012 8:17 pm

    HAHAHA!! SEAGER!!!!

  94. stevemotivateir on June 19th, 2012 8:17 pm

    Seager again!!!

  95. Breadbaker on June 19th, 2012 8:17 pm

    Pool shot!

  96. WTF_Ms on June 19th, 2012 8:17 pm

    Seaver!!! Way to hit!

  97. msfanmike on June 19th, 2012 8:17 pm

    “Splash” Seager

  98. WTF_Ms on June 19th, 2012 8:18 pm

    Seager…darn spell check!

  99. Westside guy on June 19th, 2012 8:18 pm

    All right Monty, keep it going!

  100. Slats on June 19th, 2012 8:18 pm

    Now Montero! Lets go Saunders.

  101. vetted_coach on June 19th, 2012 8:19 pm

    I smelled that coming’. Seager just looks so hitterish tonight! And Hudson’s getting roped. Maybe Smoak connects again…

  102. Slats on June 19th, 2012 8:20 pm

    Condor!

  103. Westside guy on June 19th, 2012 8:20 pm

    Dribbler… but a hit! Come on Smoak!

  104. stevemotivateir on June 19th, 2012 8:20 pm

    Here we go…. pour it on!

  105. Breadbaker on June 19th, 2012 8:21 pm

    Saunders did a good job with a good pitch.

    That is a sentence I don’t think would have ever been written about him before this year.

  106. vetted_coach on June 19th, 2012 8:23 pm

    Montero looks better running the bases with his pants down. I mean with no socks showing…lol

    (first time I have typed “lol” in my life)

  107. Slats on June 19th, 2012 8:24 pm

    Hope Smoak is ok.

  108. msfanmike on June 19th, 2012 8:25 pm

    Time for “singles” Smoak.

  109. Breadbaker on June 19th, 2012 8:28 pm

    This would be a nice time for Ackley to show his improved strike zone judgment and “adjustments”.

  110. Breadbaker on June 19th, 2012 8:29 pm

    Oh, well.

  111. msfanmike on June 19th, 2012 8:30 pm

    Frack!

  112. WTF_Ms on June 19th, 2012 8:30 pm

    Breadbaker, I’m suere that’s not what you had in mind.

  113. Slats on June 19th, 2012 8:31 pm

    Ryan baby!!

  114. Westside guy on June 19th, 2012 8:31 pm

    RYAN!!!!!!!

  115. msfanmike on June 19th, 2012 8:31 pm

    Big fly!!!!!!!!!

  116. WTF_Ms on June 19th, 2012 8:31 pm

    Holy schnikey! What’s up with Ryan?

  117. Jake on June 19th, 2012 8:31 pm

    Holy shit..that’s not what I expected.

  118. Breadbaker on June 19th, 2012 8:32 pm

    Brendan Ryan will have another great postgame interview, guaranteed.

  119. msfanmike on June 19th, 2012 8:32 pm

    Oh god, he’s staying in the game. Shit on a stick. Bad move

  120. Westside guy on June 19th, 2012 8:32 pm

    Benefits of playing in a hitters park.

    Of course, the D-Backs get to hit in the same park…

  121. vetted_coach on June 19th, 2012 8:33 pm

    Ryan dropped a huge F-bomb coming into the dugout. Jacked up!

  122. msfanmike on June 19th, 2012 8:36 pm

    I Guess Wedge just didn’t want to burn a PH this early. Interesting strategy.

    The shit on a stick has been retracted.

  123. Breadbaker on June 19th, 2012 8:37 pm

    Huh? Does Wedge simply not know how to manage in an NL game? Or has he decided, in a typical Mariner fashion, that we’ve scored enough runs and don’t need anymore, so it’s fine to let the pitcher bat when he’s taking him out.

  124. vetted_coach on June 19th, 2012 8:38 pm

    Here’s the guy to replace Noesi. Veteran control pitcher. Makes adjustments. Lots of innings in his resume. Sort of unsung. But steady.

  125. Westside guy on June 19th, 2012 8:38 pm

    Yeah, someone needs to remind GB to not read too much into Smoak’s earlier homer. hehehe

  126. Breadbaker on June 19th, 2012 8:39 pm

    What he could have done was to pinch hit Jaso, and then inserted Iwakuma into Smoak’s spot in the order, since I’ll bet Smoak is still hurting from that last at-bat.

  127. vetted_coach on June 19th, 2012 8:40 pm

    Edit: HR just as I hit ” submit”, but I stand by my comment on Iwakuma.

  128. msfanmike on June 19th, 2012 8:41 pm

    Miami beat OKC

  129. WTF_Ms on June 19th, 2012 8:43 pm

    Go Heat! I do NOT like OKC.

  130. vetted_coach on June 19th, 2012 8:45 pm

    Smoak will sit tomorrow. Double tweaked his knee…contusion and hyper extension. Day game Wednesday. Who plays first? Ackley? Jaso? Saunders? Am I forgetting someone?

  131. msfanmike on June 19th, 2012 8:45 pm

    I hope “unsung” does not quickly turn into nobody singing his praises.

  132. stevemotivateir on June 19th, 2012 8:46 pm

    Jaso will likely get the start. Otherwise, we’ll see Ackley there, Seager at second, and (gulp) Figgins at third.

  133. stevemotivateir on June 19th, 2012 8:48 pm

    15 runs total, 5th inning of play. Can’t say this has been a boring game.

  134. WTF_Ms on June 19th, 2012 8:48 pm

    We are giving up too many hits…and now BoomBoom can put them up?? What is the world coming to?

  135. Breadbaker on June 19th, 2012 8:48 pm

    This is why you don’t just give up an out for no reason.

  136. vetted_coach on June 19th, 2012 8:50 pm

    He’s not fooling anyone, is he? I guess that’s a form of “steady.”

  137. Slats on June 19th, 2012 8:50 pm

    Surely you guys want to see Durant win a ring!

  138. msfanmike on June 19th, 2012 8:50 pm

    I don’t think the geriatrics are going to see the ending of this game. Tomorrows start is likely being moved up to 4:40

    “Stand by your man … When he goes goes gopher balling, He makes us all crestfallen” …

  139. Slats on June 19th, 2012 8:50 pm

    That lead vanished quick.

  140. groundzero55 on June 19th, 2012 8:53 pm

    Durant? The guy that could have been a Blazer if not for the misguided Oden draft pick?

  141. vetted_coach on June 19th, 2012 8:54 pm

    Might be the worst middle relief appearance of the season.

  142. nvn8vbryce on June 19th, 2012 8:55 pm

    How are the Rainiers doing against the Aces?

  143. G-Man on June 19th, 2012 8:56 pm

    Did anyone hear an explanation for letting Erasmo Ramirez hit, then pulling him? Could he have tweaked something in his AB?

    But don’t get me wrong – I don’t necessarily think it is a bad idea to save a PH when Smoak is looking hurt and so might have to come out, you have an AL squad, and the pitcher is he’s coming up with 2 outs and nobody on. It is just so totally against all managerial mentality, I am surprised.

  144. stevemotivateir on June 19th, 2012 8:57 pm

    NICE!!!

  145. Breadbaker on June 19th, 2012 8:59 pm

    G-Man, that’s why I suggested the double switch with Jaso batting for Ramirez, then taking over for Smoak. But Wedge seemed to assume that the next batter, whoever he was, would make the third out. If Jaso got on board, why couldn’t Ichiro have gotten another hit, etc.?

  146. msfanmike on June 19th, 2012 9:05 pm

    “Bronco” Zagurski looks like he is on the John Kruk training regiment.

  147. G-Man on June 19th, 2012 9:10 pm

    msfanmike, I liked your idea. Too bad Wedge didn’t!

  148. msfanmike on June 19th, 2012 9:11 pm

    Well, if he’s going to give up a run, today would be the day for it.

  149. WTF_Ms on June 19th, 2012 9:11 pm

    I gotta wonder…is the mound not as high as it should be? There’s too many hits…surely, we can’t have BOTH teams hitting this good, and pitching this poorly?

  150. Westside guy on June 19th, 2012 9:13 pm

    Zunino, hurry up!

  151. stevemotivateir on June 19th, 2012 9:15 pm

    at least the pitch was down

  152. msfanmike on June 19th, 2012 9:15 pm

    Pinball … We are playing pinball today. Quite compelling – in a Kingdome sort of way.

  153. Coug-Mariner on June 19th, 2012 9:25 pm

    So I have to ask, what’s with the Willie Bloomquist bashing? sabermetrics aside, the dude is a pretty versatile player who is serviceable at multiple positions and in the last 5 years hasn’t hit under .265. That would be tops on our team. Cut the bremerton native some slack!

    In regards to this game, not impressed with Erasmo. He looks like Noesi out there.

  154. stevemotivateir on June 19th, 2012 9:29 pm

    ^Port Orchard native

  155. msfanmike on June 19th, 2012 9:31 pm

    Didn’t someone say earlier that Smoak got hurt and wasn’t playing tomorrow? Why would he be playing now? Is the pain of his injury (that I did not see) post-emptive?

  156. stevemotivateir on June 19th, 2012 9:33 pm

    I think it was just speculation, Mike. A “what if”. I assumed it was anyway.

  157. msfanmike on June 19th, 2012 9:33 pm

    I think Bloomquist would have a higher WAR (or any WAR for that matter) if he wasn’t playing out of position. He is really a 2B and probably gets dinged on “D” in his WAR score. I am just surmising. I don’t know for sure. Is someone else smart enough to chime in on that?

  158. Westside guy on June 19th, 2012 9:39 pm

    Bloomquist plays multiple positions… badly. He’s not an awful hitter – but his last five years have been significantly better than his previous performance. Even so, he’s been more or less the definition of the definition of “replacement level player” over the course of his career.

    I think the antipathy towards Bloomquist is due to factors beyond his control. Because he was a local boy, he consistently would get played up in the media as being an exceptional player – even though it was obvious to anyone with eyes Willie was middle of the road at best. But he’d get lots of credit for “grit” and “hustle” in lieu of any sort of performance that is reflected in the box score.

    It’s similar to how Tui was treated for so long – but Willie is better than Tui by quite a ways.

  159. msfanmike on June 19th, 2012 9:41 pm

    What is that thing called on Ryan’s face. Mutton chop stache? The Yosemite Sam?

    What the hell is it?

  160. Westside guy on June 19th, 2012 9:41 pm

    I believe it’s a small animal skin, Mike.

  161. stevemotivateir on June 19th, 2012 9:42 pm

    Ryan!

  162. vetted_coach on June 19th, 2012 9:42 pm

    This is presumably the AB that Wedge was looking forward to when he gave away the Ramirez at bat. Presumably.

  163. Coug-Mariner on June 19th, 2012 9:43 pm

    What are the odds we pull this one out?
    I got terrified for a second. I looked up and thought I saw Kawasaki.

  164. Breadbaker on June 19th, 2012 9:44 pm

    Ichiro!

  165. vetted_coach on June 19th, 2012 9:44 pm

    ms’mike- that was me….anticipating that his knee tweak earlier would tighten up on him tonight and take him out of a day game tomorrow.

  166. Westside guy on June 19th, 2012 9:45 pm

    Ribbie for Ichiro!

  167. r-gordon-7 on June 19th, 2012 9:45 pm

    Ichiro!!

  168. msfanmike on June 19th, 2012 9:45 pm

    Atta boy Eech!

  169. nvn8vbryce on June 19th, 2012 9:45 pm

    Ichiro!

  170. msfanmike on June 19th, 2012 9:48 pm

    I missed the knee “tweak.” Did he have to leg out another pop up?

  171. vetted_coach on June 19th, 2012 9:50 pm

    As much as I hate to admit it, the tying run has to be attributed in part to Wedge saving Jaso by allowing Ramirez to hit in that meaningless 2-out at bat earlier. Technically, he could have sent Figgins up there for the pitcher, but still…

  172. Westside guy on June 19th, 2012 9:50 pm

    Mike, Smoak drove a ball right off the outside of his back knee (I forget which way he was facing) during an earlier at bat.

  173. Breadbaker on June 19th, 2012 9:51 pm

    Coach, you’re using post-hoc reasoning. You assume that the team would have lost the three run lead it had at the time, and that Jaso would not have been involved in more run scoring that inning.

  174. vetted_coach on June 19th, 2012 9:52 pm

    No…he fouled a pitch off his back knee, then hyperextended the same knee when he buckled in the battery’s box and got his foot caught falling backward. Looked like he would come out, but he hung in there.

  175. vetted_coach on June 19th, 2012 9:54 pm

    I post-hoc’d a prop for Wedge. I retract it.

  176. Westside guy on June 19th, 2012 9:56 pm

    hehehehe

  177. Breadbaker on June 19th, 2012 9:56 pm

    Charlie Furbush: nice job!

  178. nvn8vbryce on June 19th, 2012 9:58 pm

    Charlie Burbush, ladies and gentlemen.

  179. vetted_coach on June 19th, 2012 9:58 pm

    David Sims doing Jay Leno: “Charlie Furbush, everybody!”

  180. stevemotivateir on June 19th, 2012 9:59 pm

    Would be nice to see Seager do something tonight

  181. Slats on June 19th, 2012 9:59 pm

    Furbush looks great.

  182. Westside guy on June 19th, 2012 10:01 pm

    MOVE THE FENCES IN!!

  183. Breadbaker on June 19th, 2012 10:03 pm

    We don’t need the fences moved in, we just need to move Safeco to about 4000 feet elevation. Snoqualmie Safeco!

  184. stevemotivateir on June 19th, 2012 10:03 pm

    Geez Montero

  185. stevemotivateir on June 19th, 2012 10:04 pm

    We joked about that a week or two ago, breadbaker!

  186. Westside guy on June 19th, 2012 10:04 pm

    ARGH.

  187. stevemotivateir on June 19th, 2012 10:05 pm

    Actually, it was more than that. I think it was during the Rockies series.

  188. Westside guy on June 19th, 2012 10:07 pm

    We also talked about putting Safeco baseballs into a dehydrator – the opposite of the Rockies’ humidor.

  189. NV M's fan on June 19th, 2012 10:08 pm

    And we also proposed cranking up the de-humidor. MLB would have to go along w/ it.

  190. vetted_coach on June 19th, 2012 10:08 pm

    Jesus Montero is having a nice rookie season, but he has to stop cheating fast ball with two strikes. There’s no veteran slugger on the roster to clue him in. Chamblis maybe? It’s an adjustment he’ll have to make or veteran pitchers will own him when he’s behind in the count. Blowers should be the guy, actually.

  191. msfanmike on June 19th, 2012 10:10 pm

    Even Elaine would have to admit that Furbush has been “sponge worthy” this evening.

  192. stevemotivateir on June 19th, 2012 10:11 pm

    I bet Charlie will be the subject of trade talk before too long, if he isn’t already.

  193. NV M's fan on June 19th, 2012 10:11 pm

    Great minds, Westy. Go Furby!!!

  194. Westside guy on June 19th, 2012 10:12 pm

    I think a number of us are getting loopy tonight.

  195. Breadbaker on June 19th, 2012 10:13 pm

    Sorry for somehow repeating something that was said two weeks ago, but “move the fences in” is a tad overused. And by a tad I mean, way.

  196. stevemotivateir on June 19th, 2012 10:14 pm

    That will happen Westy, when you see the team putting 9 runs on the board, and still going into extra innings.

  197. stevemotivateir on June 19th, 2012 10:14 pm

    Don’t be sorry, breadbaker! I thought it was great!

  198. msfanmike on June 19th, 2012 10:15 pm

    Runner runner runner runner runner

    Yay

  199. stevemotivateir on June 19th, 2012 10:15 pm

    Always cool when more than one person comes up with an alternative idea. That seems to happen a lot here!

  200. samregens on June 19th, 2012 10:15 pm

    Watching the game today, I have to say that this park in Arizona is some kind of offensive fun. Can we import it to Seattle?

  201. vetted_coach on June 19th, 2012 10:16 pm

    Jesus: No mas mirando por los rapidos quando tienes dos strikos!!!

  202. Westside guy on June 19th, 2012 10:19 pm

    Ackley!

  203. msfanmike on June 19th, 2012 10:19 pm

    Bunt bunt bunt bunt bunt!

  204. stevemotivateir on June 19th, 2012 10:20 pm

    As if you have to plant that thought into Wedge’s head, Mike!

  205. msfanmike on June 19th, 2012 10:21 pm

    Samregens, I love you man … But this game is ass. IMO

  206. stevemotivateir on June 19th, 2012 10:24 pm

    Wow, a bunt. Didn’t see that coming.

  207. Westside guy on June 19th, 2012 10:25 pm

    Wedge, where are your guts? Are you a chicken?

    Perfect spot for a suicide squeeze…

    hehehe

  208. msfanmike on June 19th, 2012 10:25 pm

    Hit hit hit hit hit

  209. stevemotivateir on June 19th, 2012 10:25 pm

    Wells!!!! Welcome back once again!

  210. Westside guy on June 19th, 2012 10:26 pm

    Sure, Casper Wells gets a boring traditional hit.

  211. msfanmike on June 19th, 2012 10:26 pm

    Fundies … Sweet!

    Less of an ass taste for the time being.

  212. stevemotivateir on June 19th, 2012 10:26 pm

    You practicing voodoo, Mike?!

  213. nvn8vbryce on June 19th, 2012 10:26 pm

    Casper, the friendly ghost… er… batter!

  214. vetted_coach on June 19th, 2012 10:27 pm

    I love this guy!

  215. The_Waco_Kid on June 19th, 2012 10:27 pm

    More playing time for Wells please!

  216. samregens on June 19th, 2012 10:28 pm

    msfanmike, yes, I was half joking. Safeco games are more tight and ascetically clean. If only the Ms could hit like other teams there.

  217. msfanmike on June 19th, 2012 10:28 pm

    Crank up hit #4, Eech

  218. Westside guy on June 19th, 2012 10:28 pm

    FAIR BALL!

  219. stevemotivateir on June 19th, 2012 10:28 pm

    Ichiro AGAIN!!!

  220. The_Waco_Kid on June 19th, 2012 10:28 pm

    Ichiro!

  221. msfanmike on June 19th, 2012 10:28 pm

    Fuck off Bob and Groz!

  222. nvn8vbryce on June 19th, 2012 10:29 pm

    I’m wondering if Eech reads USSM…

  223. samregens on June 19th, 2012 10:30 pm

    12-9, wow, this is awesome!

  224. msfanmike on June 19th, 2012 10:31 pm

    Roger, Samregens.

    We need some sort of balance between no runs and slo-mo softball. I agree with you.

  225. vetted_coach on June 19th, 2012 10:32 pm

    Someone has to play 1B. Ackley?

  226. WTF_Ms on June 19th, 2012 10:33 pm

    Mike, you always come through with a laugh!

  227. msfanmike on June 19th, 2012 10:33 pm

    Close close close close close.

  228. Slats on June 19th, 2012 10:33 pm

    Take that Putz!

  229. Breadbaker on June 19th, 2012 10:34 pm

    I assume Ackley to first, Kawasaki to 2nd.

  230. enazario on June 19th, 2012 10:36 pm

    I know that Ichiro is not the same anymore but I don’t see that his bat speed has diminished.

  231. msfanmike on June 19th, 2012 10:37 pm

    No voodoo, I am “bi-winning” and channelling my inner Charlie Sheen.

  232. stevemotivateir on June 19th, 2012 10:38 pm

    I watched that movie last night.

  233. stevemotivateir on June 19th, 2012 10:40 pm

    Game!

  234. Breadbaker on June 19th, 2012 10:40 pm

    That was a total team effort.

  235. vetted_coach on June 19th, 2012 10:40 pm

    Brandon League is your official July deadline trade.

  236. msfanmike on June 19th, 2012 10:40 pm

    A nice, pithy 4:01 game.

    Bed bed bed bed bed.

  237. Westside guy on June 19th, 2012 10:40 pm

    WOO HOO!!

  238. justdave on June 19th, 2012 10:40 pm

    I thought NL games were supposed to be short & curveballs didn’t curve in the desert. Wow what
    a game, eh?

  239. Westside guy on June 19th, 2012 10:42 pm

    Mix those metaphors, Casper!

  240. nvn8vbryce on June 19th, 2012 10:48 pm

    No voodoo, I am “bi-winning” and channelling my inner Charlie Sheen.

    See ya at the Schick!

  241. greentunic on June 19th, 2012 11:01 pm

    A perfect 3K save for Tom.

    That bodes well for his (our) future.

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