Game 80, Red Sox at Mariners

Mike Snow · June 30, 2012 at 8:11 pm · Filed Under Mariners 

Ramirez Furbush vs. Beckett, 7:10 pm.

Posting late enough that Ramirez has been removed early, apparently due to some kind of injury. I know Blake Beavan is still hanging around in Tacoma, but with Millwood coming up lame every other start as well, this team can’t really afford to lose guys out of the rotation. There may be sentiment to go ahead and call Hultzen up, but though he’s arguably already as good as the middling guys behind Felix, so far in Tacoma he’s showing there’s no reason to rush him.

RF-L Ichiro
CF-R Wells
3B-L Seager
DH-L Jaso
1B-B Smoak
2B-L Ackley
C-R Olivo
LF-B Figgins
SS-L Kawasaki

Comments

234 Responses to “Game 80, Red Sox at Mariners”

  1. Westside guy on June 30th, 2012 7:06 pm

    Condor must still be sick – we’re being treated to Figgins in left again.

  2. nvn8vbryce on June 30th, 2012 7:15 pm

    Westy, I’d rather be treated to poison ivy than Figgins, thank you very much…

  3. Kyle Miller on June 30th, 2012 7:38 pm

    Dave Sims’ fedora is a thing of beauty.

  4. msfanmike on June 30th, 2012 7:47 pm

    Another one? Oh good golly.

  5. stevemotivateir on June 30th, 2012 7:47 pm

    Crap, are you kidding me?! Not Ramirez. Take Figgins, take Olivo, maybe even Noesi, but not Ramirez! Geez.

  6. stevemotivateir on June 30th, 2012 7:56 pm

    If anyone is curious, the answer to their trivia, is 8. Ortiz has 399. Would be funny if he hit one before they revealed the answer. They didn’t list 9 as a choice.

  7. stevemotivateir on June 30th, 2012 7:57 pm

    Nice job Charlie.

  8. msfanmike on June 30th, 2012 7:57 pm

    I thought Ramirez quickly pointed to his forearm after Griffin arrived at the mound. If he did, that’s a bad sign.

  9. stevemotivateir on June 30th, 2012 8:00 pm

    Hope that’s not the case.

  10. stevemotivateir on June 30th, 2012 8:03 pm

    When it rains, it pours.

  11. Kyle Miller on June 30th, 2012 8:04 pm

    Ichiro was so close to a triple. Damn you, Cody Ross!

  12. Westside guy on June 30th, 2012 8:05 pm

    SO close.

  13. msfanmike on June 30th, 2012 8:05 pm

    I did not know Ross was capable of a play like that.

  14. Westside guy on June 30th, 2012 8:07 pm

    Seager was probably just telling Furbush not to hurt himself.

  15. msfanmike on June 30th, 2012 8:07 pm

    I also did not known Ross could hit a ball 450′ to LF – until yesterday.

    Ross has taught me more than I wanted to know – over the past two days.

  16. Westside guy on June 30th, 2012 8:09 pm

    I thought it was silly when the Mariners brought up Delabar after Guti’s injury – I’ve changed my mind now.

  17. Westside guy on June 30th, 2012 8:13 pm

    Even my daughter thought Langston looked like David Bowie.

    My wife thought he was a flat-chested woman! hehe

  18. Westside guy on June 30th, 2012 8:15 pm

    Thanks very much for posting the new thread Mike! And for moving the existing posts over.

  19. nvn8vbryce on June 30th, 2012 8:17 pm

    I thought it was silly when the Mariners brought up Delabar after Guti’s injury – I’ve changed my mind now.

    Ditto. Hopefully it was just a cramp and not anything worse.

  20. stevemotivateir on June 30th, 2012 8:18 pm

    Haha, I made the Bowie comparison too! A younger version of course. But he also screams ‘California’.

  21. Westside guy on June 30th, 2012 8:18 pm

    Wells, it’s simply not a good time to start your BABIP regression!

  22. Westside guy on June 30th, 2012 8:19 pm

    Hehe, Steve – he really does look like a “Californian” doesn’t he?

  23. stevemotivateir on June 30th, 2012 8:23 pm

    Yes, he certainly does! I always liked Langston. I remember seeing him pitch in the King Dome.

  24. nvn8vbryce on June 30th, 2012 8:24 pm

    Did I miss the signing of Cy Young with the Red Sox, or is our offense really this inept?

  25. Westside guy on June 30th, 2012 8:24 pm

    Hey they’ve read Dave’s FanGraphs piece! And acknowledged the fact!

  26. Slats on June 30th, 2012 8:25 pm

    Shout out from Dave Sims to FanGraphs.

    Root just used BABIP.

  27. Westside guy on June 30th, 2012 8:25 pm

    I remember Langston pitching for us – and, later, losing to us in that all-or-nothing game.

  28. Westside guy on June 30th, 2012 8:26 pm

    You know, they didn’t explain BABIP this time (yet?) – but I’ve appreciated when Blowers has apparently done his homework and tried to explain advanced stats like UZR. Not every broadcast team would bother.

  29. stevemotivateir on June 30th, 2012 8:27 pm

    That’s another reason to like him!

  30. Westside guy on June 30th, 2012 8:28 pm

    Pujols has 457 homers at age 32 – I wonder if he’ll eventually challenge Bonds?

  31. msfanmike on June 30th, 2012 8:29 pm

    That pitch hit Miggy in a real bad spot.

    Rotating threads. Technology!

    Fangraphs getting a lot of kudos from ROOT tonight.

  32. stevemotivateir on June 30th, 2012 8:32 pm

    What?! They’re wrong!

    Alex Rodriguez 642
    Jim Thome 609
    Manny Ramirez 555
    Chipper Jones 460
    Albert Pujols 457
    Vladimir Guerrero 449
    Jason Giambi 429
    Andruw Jones 427
    Paul Konerko 410

    Unless they’re considering Ramirez and Guerro inactive. But the funny thing is, they included Ortiz, who’s one short at 399.

  33. msfanmike on June 30th, 2012 8:32 pm

    Langston reminds me of Bowie, too … But it doesn’t end there. He looks like a cross between John Denver, David Bowie and Bruce Jenner with some Pere Carroll thrown in for good measure – IMO

    He sure was a good pitcher though.

  34. Westside guy on June 30th, 2012 8:33 pm

    They didn’t mention Vlad, but Sims did say they weren’t counting Manny since he’s not currently active.

  35. The Nickster on June 30th, 2012 8:34 pm

    You know it’s getting really bad when this hard core Ms fan is starting to root for the inept offense to continue. How low can you go? How about getting a perfect game AND a no-hitter thrown against you in your park in a half-season?

  36. stevemotivateir on June 30th, 2012 8:34 pm

    It still doesn’t make sense, because even without Manny, it’s 8. With Ortiz (though he shouldn’t be on there) it’s 9.

  37. msfanmike on June 30th, 2012 8:35 pm

    Yes, the two you mentioned are “inactive” technically.

    And, Ortiz was close enough to mention or not mention … All depending on how one counts to 7 … I guess ???

  38. stevemotivateir on June 30th, 2012 8:36 pm

    Well, if you count Ortiz, then it is 8!

  39. stevemotivateir on June 30th, 2012 8:37 pm

    They missed somebody. As far as I know, everyone else is active.

  40. The Nickster on June 30th, 2012 8:37 pm

    That a way, Smoaky!

  41. stevemotivateir on June 30th, 2012 8:38 pm

    Damn, gotta roll. Hope they score some runs tonight. Wont hold my breath.

  42. Westside guy on June 30th, 2012 8:40 pm

    Miggy breaks up the no-no!

    (why is every game lately a potential no hitter?)

  43. msfanmike on June 30th, 2012 8:41 pm

    Hopefully the “take away” message for the org (in regard to the Fangraphs data quoted) is that any fence line changes they may be considering – would benefit the visiting team as much if not more – than it would benefit the Mariners.

    In other words: no drastic changes, please. No need for it! No changes at all would be even better. IMO

  44. The Nickster on June 30th, 2012 8:41 pm

    Dammit. Olivo lets me down once again.

  45. msfanmike on June 30th, 2012 8:42 pm

    I know Ortiz would make 8, but he sits at 399 – and the question was 400 and above.

  46. nvn8vbryce on June 30th, 2012 8:43 pm

    (why is every game lately a potential no hitter?)

    Ask Professor of Professional Hitting, Dr. Mendoza about something called the Mendoza Line, and how the Mariners got a cut-rate subscription for most of their hitters…

  47. msfanmike on June 30th, 2012 8:44 pm

    The list confused me too, because I counted eight names on it, but the total HRs hit (to the right of the names) revealed the true answer to the riddle.

  48. Tv Producer on June 30th, 2012 8:48 pm

    To clarify, Manny and Vlad are not “active”, and Ortiz only has 399 Home Runs. 7 Active Players were listed with 400 or more HR’s.

  49. The Nickster on June 30th, 2012 8:49 pm

    I’ve switched over to MLS soccer. Actual scoring! San Jose 4, LA 3 with 15 minutes left.

  50. Westside guy on June 30th, 2012 8:51 pm

    Thank you Mr. Producer!

    I think it made sense to include Ortiz in the list (but not in the count), given he’s only one away – which is exactly what was done.

  51. msfanmike on June 30th, 2012 8:52 pm

    Soccer?

    Noooooooooooooo!

    Come back Nickster! Come back!!!

  52. Westside guy on June 30th, 2012 8:54 pm

    All right Ichiro! Now come on, Casper!

  53. msfanmike on June 30th, 2012 8:56 pm

    Mr Producer: the list made sense. Thanks for clarifying, though. Sims stumbled a bit with it and it sounded like Blowers tried to assist while we were all counting names and lining it up with the stated answer.

  54. Westside guy on June 30th, 2012 8:58 pm

    On a side note – Ortiz sounds like a classy guy. Pre-game they were talking about how he had a chat with Noesi and Montero regarding their approach – how Noesi pitched him very well, but seemed to get lazy against the lesser hitters.

  55. msfanmike on June 30th, 2012 8:58 pm

    Baseball Gods owe us a double from Seager. Hopefully they are listening and in the mood.

  56. Westside guy on June 30th, 2012 9:00 pm

    YES!!! As Mike’s said previously – better to be lucky than good! hehehe

  57. msfanmike on June 30th, 2012 9:00 pm

    I said a “double” baseball Gods.

    But thank you, anyway.

    Great read by Ichiro.

  58. Westside guy on June 30th, 2012 9:00 pm

    DO IT JASO!

  59. Westside guy on June 30th, 2012 9:01 pm

    YES!! YESS!!

  60. Slats on June 30th, 2012 9:01 pm

    Jaso baby!!!

  61. Mid80sRighty on June 30th, 2012 9:01 pm

    Who’s this Jaso guy and why hasn’t he been playing all year?

  62. msfanmike on June 30th, 2012 9:02 pm

    That’s better.

    Baseball Gods hath speaketh.

  63. r-gordon-7 on June 30th, 2012 9:03 pm

    M’s fans finally cheering louder than “the others” – a welcome sound!

  64. Mid80sRighty on June 30th, 2012 9:03 pm

    Maybe they finally got a live chicken

  65. Westside guy on June 30th, 2012 9:03 pm

    Come on Smoaky! Please!

  66. msfanmike on June 30th, 2012 9:04 pm

    A sacrifice fly would be fine, here. Get something done, Smoak

    Stay away Nickster! Soccer is awesome!!!

  67. msfanmike on June 30th, 2012 9:04 pm

    I think they started breathing through their eyelids.

  68. Westside guy on June 30th, 2012 9:06 pm

    What just happened?

  69. Slats on June 30th, 2012 9:06 pm

    Send Smoak down – he really needs to work on a few things.

  70. msfanmike on June 30th, 2012 9:07 pm

    Foul ball?

    He can’t even fake an injury correctly.

    Limp, dummy!

    Sell it

  71. msfanmike on June 30th, 2012 9:08 pm

    Smoak is numb from the neck area downward, so if it did graze his shoe, he would not feel it.

  72. juneau_fan on June 30th, 2012 9:09 pm

    Can’t pitch hit for Olivio with Jaso, darnit.

  73. vetted_coach on June 30th, 2012 9:09 pm

    That’s it for Smoak as far as I’m concerned. He hasn’t got a clue. He should be in Tacoma by tomorrow.

  74. msfanmike on June 30th, 2012 9:09 pm

    The chance for two hits in a row for Miggy against a RHP are …

  75. Mid80sRighty on June 30th, 2012 9:11 pm

    Yeah, Smoak is…not good. Really disappointing.

  76. msfanmike on June 30th, 2012 9:11 pm

    I think Smoak was so happy he didnt K – that he ran out of pure giddiness. I agree vetted – he should be gone to Tacoma, yesterday.

  77. Westside guy on June 30th, 2012 9:12 pm

    Ah, well – two runs anyway!

  78. msfanmike on June 30th, 2012 9:13 pm

    Freaking Jaso pasted that ball. Damn that was sweet.

    We want more, please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  79. Mid80sRighty on June 30th, 2012 9:15 pm

    I’m all in favor of moving Montero to the 1 bag and letting Jaso and Miggy take care of the catcher position…like Jaso 90% of the time. It shouldn’t be that hard to convert a catcher to first.

  80. vetted_coach on June 30th, 2012 9:20 pm

    Jaso should be at first base and raking every day. No-brainer. If you can’t make that decision, I don’t know what they’re paying you for. That 1-out at bat by Smoak was criminal. Infield in, for crying out loud. Pure crap.

  81. G-Man on June 30th, 2012 9:21 pm

    I was literally just typing the question here, because I didn’t see the play – why didn’t they tag Guti out? Now they show the replay and talk about it.

  82. msfanmike on June 30th, 2012 9:24 pm

    Frack, we needed that DP

    Unless he lost his grip on the ball, there is no reason to not throw to 1B. Batter runner was not fast down the line. I think Ryan spins that play into two outs. I truly do.

  83. juneau_fan on June 30th, 2012 9:24 pm

    Hate. Olivio. Hate.

    Oh and League.

  84. G-Man on June 30th, 2012 9:24 pm

    Change that suggested lineup. Mid80 – Jaso at catcher.

  85. msfanmike on June 30th, 2012 9:24 pm

    Ahhh, now I remember.

    Mariners

  86. Choo on June 30th, 2012 9:25 pm

    O-li-vo! Whoa oh oh oh! O-li-vo! Whoa whoa whoa oh!

  87. msfanmike on June 30th, 2012 9:26 pm

    Olivo’s work is nowhere near done. Still plenty of game left to end up hating him even more

  88. benthic on June 30th, 2012 9:26 pm

    Can we just call Olivo “Olé!!” from now on?

  89. Mid80sRighty on June 30th, 2012 9:27 pm

    I did say Jaso at catcher. They still need a backup and Miggy can fill that roll for the rest of the year.

  90. henryv on June 30th, 2012 9:28 pm

    F you, Olivo. F you to f ing Hell.

  91. vetted_coach on June 30th, 2012 9:28 pm

    I agree about Kawasaki. You have to throw that ball. Pete Rose would have hit the guy between the eyes if he didn’t get down. Makes Oliva’s and Smoak’s at bats crucial. And the passed ball? What are we doing here? Get rid of both of those two wastes of time. Brutal.

  92. vetted_coach on June 30th, 2012 9:28 pm

    I agree about Kawasaki. You have to throw that ball. Pete Rose would have hit the guy between the eyes if he didn’t get down. Makes Oliva’s and Smoak’s at bats crucial. And the passed ball? What are we doing here? Get rid of both of those two wastes of time. Brutal.

  93. Choo on June 30th, 2012 9:29 pm

    That was to the tune of “Volare” by Domenico Modugno, for what it’s worth. And in Olivo’s case it’s worth approximately -6 TZ.

  94. vetted_coach on June 30th, 2012 9:30 pm

    (Oops)

  95. Westside guy on June 30th, 2012 9:32 pm

    Crap, stepped away for a bit and the BoSox got two runs.

    I picked a heck of a time to finish defrosting that freezer… (of course, I’ve been putting it off about six months now)

  96. msfanmike on June 30th, 2012 9:34 pm

    And if he did hit the runner between the eyes, it would have been interference and the batter runner called out. Our SS in high school turned a DP off an opponents helmet that way, once. Nice kid. Big heart. Coach told him after the game “nice play”. It’s the runners job to get down. He doesn’t get down, he eats it.

  97. Westside guy on June 30th, 2012 9:36 pm

    Come on, ump! Figgy’s got a tiny strike zone!

    I don’t have a problem with that strike call… if ALL the umpires called it.

  98. Westside guy on June 30th, 2012 9:38 pm

    Mascot!

  99. G-Man on June 30th, 2012 9:38 pm

    Westy, are you saying watching ice melt is more exciting than Mariners baseball?

  100. msfanmike on June 30th, 2012 9:39 pm

    Hit it out, Eech!

  101. henryv on June 30th, 2012 9:39 pm

    There isn’t anything Kawasaki doesn’t do that isn’t a little weird. Just diving back to first, he dives, crawls, and then swats at the bag.

  102. Choo on June 30th, 2012 9:40 pm

    Figgins – Kawasaki – Ichiro. Fear this!

  103. henryv on June 30th, 2012 9:41 pm

    Westy, are you saying watching ice melt is more exciting than Mariners baseball?

    Hell, watching ice NOT melt is more interesting than this team’s offense most nights.

  104. Mid80sRighty on June 30th, 2012 9:41 pm

    Yeah, that Ichiro! guy sucks. He’s the biggest problem on the team

  105. msfanmike on June 30th, 2012 9:42 pm

    Defrosting a freezer?!

    Isn’t that what kids are for when they aren’t fetching the remote?

  106. Westside guy on June 30th, 2012 9:42 pm

    Well, G-Man… ;-)

    Actually tonight’s game has been fun to watch. But I’ve found it’s a lot easier to defrost our big chest freezer if I get rid of most of the ice after the walls have warmed up, but the ice hasn’t yet melted much.

    Hehe Mike.

  107. msfanmike on June 30th, 2012 9:45 pm

    Need one!

  108. msfanmike on June 30th, 2012 9:47 pm

    Frack

  109. msfanmike on June 30th, 2012 9:52 pm

    That was an interesting route. Marine layer must be working extra hard tonight in unison with the wind

  110. Westside guy on June 30th, 2012 9:53 pm

    Why do they keep having player nights on games where that player isn’t playing? This is apparently “Viva Las Vargas” night.

  111. Westside guy on June 30th, 2012 9:54 pm

    A-Gon is A-GONE!!

    Nice job by Figgy!

  112. msfanmike on June 30th, 2012 9:54 pm

    I have always liked Gonzales. After seeing that extended replay from the other night, how can anybody not like him

    And just tagged out! I am liking him even more!!

  113. Westside guy on June 30th, 2012 9:55 pm

    If A-Gon shaved his beard, he’d look a whole heck of a lot like Keith Hernandez.

  114. vetted_coach on June 30th, 2012 9:56 pm

    Not a big Sims fan, but he just made the comment of the year (for him.). “You want a video game, buy one.”. In response to question about using technology to call balls and strikes.

    And yes – Mike – you have to finish the play. Maybe he did lose the grip. Didn’t look like it though, did it?

  115. Westside guy on June 30th, 2012 9:57 pm

    Using replay to review home runs is using technology to affect the game, coach.

  116. Westside guy on June 30th, 2012 10:00 pm

    Ackley! Nice to see some hits falling for once!

  117. henryv on June 30th, 2012 10:01 pm

    With technology Mariano Rivera would have been a significantly worse closer, given that he received a huge strike zone from the umps.

    And Felix’s Cy Young season would have been even better, as he got one of the smallest strike zones of any starter in MLB.

    But, if we want to keep letting 60 year olds with diminished capabilities call games, we should continue to accept terrible and biased calls as part of the game.

  118. juneau_fan on June 30th, 2012 10:03 pm

    Why does Olivio always seem to be up?

  119. msfanmike on June 30th, 2012 10:04 pm

    No, it did not look like Kawasaki lost his grip, but if he said he did, ii wouldnt argue against it. Its the only reason i could see for him to not make the throw, but i dont think that is what happened. It looked like he played it conservatively. Overly conservative.

  120. vetted_coach on June 30th, 2012 10:05 pm

    Just liking the comment by Sims. The HR vs. balls and strikes thing is a whole other conversation. The HR call happens less frequently than a borderline strike, and you get an assist from the yellow stripe. I think the ball-strike thing opens a can of worms because you can’t get the paste back in the tube. Every hitter will be crying for a replay.

  121. Westside guy on June 30th, 2012 10:05 pm

    In truth I don’t have a strong opinion on that particular subject – it’s just that we’ve already got technology involved in the games, so it’s more a question of where we draw the line.

    I recall when Sandy Alderson (IIRC) cracked down on individual umpire’s strike zones – for a year or two we got pretty good calls. But after that it seems MLB relaxed things, and umpires are back to their own personal strike zones. Really, I think we could do a lot to improve umpiring without even dealing with automation.

  122. Choo on June 30th, 2012 10:05 pm

    “Why does Olivio always seem to be up?”

    Because he does shit like that.

  123. msfanmike on June 30th, 2012 10:06 pm

    Boy, there was almost no way to predict Olivo would strike out, there. Who would have ever thunk it?

    Yes, thunk – you iPhone!

  124. msfanmike on June 30th, 2012 10:09 pm

    I have posted this before, but it may bare repeating. My dad umpires in the Florida state league in the early 60′s. They experimented with some sort of lazed technology during a spring training game. The “machine” called strike three

    The batter subsequently beat the living fuck out of the machine with his bat.

    Experiment concluded.

    Umpire returned to his rightful position.

  125. henryv on June 30th, 2012 10:09 pm

    Ironically, using robots to call a strike zone would actually speed up the game, given that balls and strikes could be called faster and that there would be less ejections and arguing.

    Tennis uses line cameras with great success and it takes about 10 seconds to check on a call.

    The only plays that are hard to determine are where there is 2 or more variables, like a ball arrive and a runner touching the bag.

    To be honest, these are the only plays that I don’t have a problem with the umpire calling because it would be too hard to measure with a computer.

  126. msfanmike on June 30th, 2012 10:10 pm

    “umpired” … And “laser”

  127. vetted_coach on June 30th, 2012 10:12 pm

    I thought of tennis. How awful would that be? I like the human element behind the plate. There’s nothing like a wad of gum bouncing off of Valentine’s face.

    Stop wearing horse heads to the ball game.

  128. Westside guy on June 30th, 2012 10:12 pm

    I was about to ask if your dad was a time traveler, Mike.

  129. Rick L on June 30th, 2012 10:15 pm

    We have an imposing lineup coming up in the 9th.

  130. Westside guy on June 30th, 2012 10:15 pm

    Loved the old Kingdome footage there.

  131. Rick L on June 30th, 2012 10:15 pm

    Maybe they should use Vargas as a pinch hitter.

  132. msfanmike on June 30th, 2012 10:16 pm

    I think he wishes he could be. He is 72, now … So going back to the early 60′s would be fine with him. He made it to AA and was expecting a promotion to AAA (only 16 big league teams then, too) but he hated the travel and he hated being away from his newborn son. I am glad he made the choice he did. He missed nothing.

  133. henryv on June 30th, 2012 10:16 pm

    I like the players to determine the game. Not old moronic jackasses like Joe West.

  134. henryv on June 30th, 2012 10:17 pm

    Felix should PH.

  135. vetted_coach on June 30th, 2012 10:18 pm

    Kawasaki just threw a strike to Alvin Davis. (If he hits a dinger this inning, I’ll purchase his jersey.)

  136. Westside guy on June 30th, 2012 10:18 pm

    What was THAT?

  137. henryv on June 30th, 2012 10:18 pm

    Kawasaki with a winning home run here.

  138. Westside guy on June 30th, 2012 10:19 pm

    Hey Muni’s trying to grow a mustache! Isn’t that cute…

  139. msfanmike on June 30th, 2012 10:19 pm

    Put a machine behind the catcher and see how long lasts, Henry.

    Is Joe West here today?

  140. henryv on June 30th, 2012 10:20 pm

    The computers are actually around the stadium, and no where near the field. Yet another good reason. Nothing to get in the way.

  141. henryv on June 30th, 2012 10:21 pm

    God willing, Joe West is being mauled by boars somewhere.

  142. Westside guy on June 30th, 2012 10:22 pm

    Come on Ichiro!

  143. henryv on June 30th, 2012 10:22 pm

    Sorry, that was mean. Boars have better sense than to get near Joe West.

  144. msfanmike on June 30th, 2012 10:22 pm

    Bye the way, I don’t like joe west, either. There needs to be a stricter criteria for longevity, but there needs to be a “gevity”

    IMO

  145. Westside guy on June 30th, 2012 10:23 pm

    Replay of Olivo’s latest miscue – what’s the timetable for Zunino’s arrival again?

  146. henryv on June 30th, 2012 10:25 pm

    Replay of Olivo’s latest miscue – what’s the timetable for Zunino’s arrival again?

    2014, I would guess.

  147. vetted_coach on June 30th, 2012 10:25 pm

    “Ball not hit hard enough for a double play,” Blowers BS.

  148. juneau_fan on June 30th, 2012 10:26 pm

    *sigh*

  149. Swungonandbelted on June 30th, 2012 10:26 pm

    Ichi-D’oh!

  150. Westside guy on June 30th, 2012 10:27 pm

    There’s something wrong with a Randy Johnson bobblehead where he’s smiling.

  151. henryv on June 30th, 2012 10:27 pm

    This is boring. Just hurry up and drop a 3rd strike, and then let 3 passed balls go by, Olivo.

  152. vetted_coach on June 30th, 2012 10:27 pm

    Adam Moore makes more sense than Olivo until then. Anybody does.

  153. G-Man on June 30th, 2012 10:28 pm

    Are we playing the Dodgers soon? They’ve been scoring even less than the M’s.

  154. henryv on June 30th, 2012 10:28 pm

    Are we playing the Dodgers soon? They’ve been scoring even less than the M’s.

    I seem to remember them taking 2 of 3 from us after we no hit them.

  155. Westside guy on June 30th, 2012 10:29 pm

    I do hope Adam Moore gets another shot. I suspect it won’t be here though.

  156. henryv on June 30th, 2012 10:30 pm

    I’d bet half of this season’s attendance will be fans from other teams.

  157. msfanmike on June 30th, 2012 10:30 pm

    Yes, we know the cameras are around the stadium and would not be behind the catcher, literally. To me, it means it would simply take longer for the players to walk into the stands before beating the holy fuck out of it/them

    Expanded replay is coming for sure and for certain, but it will NEVER be used to call balls and strikes.

  158. Westside guy on June 30th, 2012 10:30 pm

    Come on Wilhelmsen.

  159. henryv on June 30th, 2012 10:30 pm

    Why were they not shifted for Ortiz?

  160. Rick L on June 30th, 2012 10:31 pm

    Painful. Very painful to watch.

  161. Westside guy on June 30th, 2012 10:32 pm

    Wedge doesn’t believe in that new-fangled stuff like shifting, Henry. That’s for those young pups like Joe Maddon to try.

  162. henryv on June 30th, 2012 10:32 pm

    Rick has just come up with the M’s 2013 slogan.

    “Painful. Very painful to watch.”

  163. Westside guy on June 30th, 2012 10:33 pm

    Actually I think Wedge has shifted the defense on rare occasions.

  164. Westside guy on June 30th, 2012 10:33 pm

    Wilhelmensnesoensonemensen!!

  165. Westside guy on June 30th, 2012 10:34 pm

    I do love that curve!

  166. Mid80sRighty on June 30th, 2012 10:35 pm

    What’s wrong with a green/red light in the ump’s mask and if he wants too go against the computer he still can? Kind of like an assist, rather than full on computers.

  167. msfanmike on June 30th, 2012 10:37 pm

    You know Westy, Wesge is younger than us. He might not look it, but he is.

    That play has to be made by Ackley. They got a break, there – but he has to make that play in a pressure situation (high leverage I should say)

  168. msfanmike on June 30th, 2012 10:39 pm

    I think I am too old to agree with the red light green light kids game thingy, but I respect your opinion regardless of how wrong I believe it to be.

  169. Choo on June 30th, 2012 10:40 pm

    Mid80s

    Cool idea, especially if the computer was configured to each upm’s tendencies rather than a cookie cutter zone.

  170. Westside guy on June 30th, 2012 10:40 pm

    Holy crap, Mike. He’s eight years younger than me!

  171. nvn8vbryce on June 30th, 2012 10:41 pm

    Can we get to closing time and get the bartender a win, please?

  172. msfanmike on June 30th, 2012 10:42 pm

    Wedge is not 63!

  173. msfanmike on June 30th, 2012 10:43 pm

    ????

  174. Westside guy on June 30th, 2012 10:43 pm

    Wedge is not 63!

    Oooh, that was low.

  175. juneau_fan on June 30th, 2012 10:43 pm

    Hendu is awful, simply awful. He’s telling me how Jaso has some tantric hitting technique and frankly, he’s skeeving me when I’m trying to just listen to the game.

  176. msfanmike on June 30th, 2012 10:45 pm

    Where’s the thesaurus?

    Tantric?

    Please dumb it down for game threads.

  177. Mid80sRighty on June 30th, 2012 10:45 pm

    Haha Juneau, I was thinking the same thing! He’s got “mystical” powers!

  178. msfanmike on June 30th, 2012 10:49 pm

    Better than the vultures circling, Sims

    Seagulls getting impatient and circling … Maybe they think the mariner offense is dead already.

  179. henryv on June 30th, 2012 10:50 pm

    Jaso has had two very borderline/out side the strike zone pitches called as strike three.

    And Olivo has called time at least once, if not twice, and not gotten it.

    Apparently the ump doesn’t like catchers.

  180. Westside guy on June 30th, 2012 10:50 pm

    Wow, actually a good crowd for once!

  181. henryv on June 30th, 2012 10:51 pm

    Wow, actually a good crowd for once!

    35,000 Boston fans.

    Probably too drunk to know where they are.

  182. msfanmike on June 30th, 2012 10:51 pm

    Nice!

    Now:

    Runs runs runs runs runs!

    Or:

    Run run run run run!

  183. Westside guy on June 30th, 2012 10:52 pm

    Jaso was a nice pickup by Z, methinks. Even if he doesn’t manage a 1.000 BABIP, despite Hendu’s expectations. :-D

  184. Westside guy on June 30th, 2012 10:53 pm

    PROVE ME WRONG, SMOAK!

  185. henryv on June 30th, 2012 10:53 pm

    Smoak is starting to look like Sexson.

  186. msfanmike on June 30th, 2012 10:54 pm

    Who would Jaso argue with when K zone showed that high strike as a strike last inning?

    Which “light” goes off (red or green or fuscia) to let everyone know that Miggy wants time?

  187. Westside guy on June 30th, 2012 10:54 pm

    D*mn you A-Gon!

    That was a nice play, unfortunately.

  188. G-Man on June 30th, 2012 10:55 pm

    Nice play by A-Gon.

  189. juneau_fan on June 30th, 2012 10:55 pm

    msfanmike, that was a sex reference. We need something to perk this game up.

  190. Mid80sRighty on June 30th, 2012 10:55 pm

    I’m starting to hate Smoak, that’s sad.

  191. msfanmike on June 30th, 2012 10:55 pm

    A little more wind and Smoak hits that one out of the park.

    Is he down to .200 yet?

  192. Westside guy on June 30th, 2012 10:56 pm

    Henry, I *wish* Smoak was as good at 25 as Sexson was.

  193. justdave on June 30th, 2012 10:56 pm

    We could be here all night.

  194. henryv on June 30th, 2012 10:57 pm

    Seems like the “dumb-guy-that’s-supposed-to-stop-balls-from-hitting-you puts his hand up right in front of you” light would be good.

  195. juneau_fan on June 30th, 2012 10:57 pm

    Jeez, maybe Hendu’s been in that booth too long. Now he’s saying that ball found some love to get through.

    And Olivio’s up again. Gack!

  196. Westside guy on June 30th, 2012 10:57 pm

    “Up in the zone”, my *ss.

    That was at eye level, and Miggy swung at it.

  197. Mid80sRighty on June 30th, 2012 10:57 pm

    If it’s a strike, Mike, it’s a strike. The rule book is quite clear..

  198. msfanmike on June 30th, 2012 10:57 pm

    We need a money bag, Ackley

    And I need a thesaurus!

  199. henryv on June 30th, 2012 10:58 pm

    Pull Olivo now. Put a good runner in to prevent a double play.

  200. WTF_Ms on June 30th, 2012 10:58 pm

    Crap, Olivo will be in the line-up until the ASB.

  201. Westside guy on June 30th, 2012 10:58 pm

    BUNT. I’M CALLING FOR A BUNT HERE.

    (seriously)

  202. msfanmike on June 30th, 2012 10:58 pm

    Lucky vs good, Westy!

    In living color.

    I think it was actually a Wee Willie Keeler quote.

  203. Swungonandbelted on June 30th, 2012 10:58 pm

    Don’t suck figgins….

  204. Slats on June 30th, 2012 10:59 pm

    Montero should be pinch hitting!

  205. justdave on June 30th, 2012 10:59 pm

    Whoa, both Figgins and Olivo did something useful in this game…

  206. henryv on June 30th, 2012 10:59 pm

    Chone Figgins for a deep fly ball? Really?!?

    Might as well put Noesi in to prevent home runs.

  207. Westside guy on June 30th, 2012 10:59 pm

    LUCKY AGAIN!!!!!!

  208. msfanmike on June 30th, 2012 10:59 pm

    I love you Figgy!

  209. juneau_fan on June 30th, 2012 11:00 pm

    Thank the gods. Wait, they will 2 games because Salty drops the ball twice?

    I’ll take it. I’m missing my Saturday night Lockup:Raw after all.

  210. WTF_Ms on June 30th, 2012 11:00 pm

    The good news is that Figgy’s trade value has gone way up tonight!

  211. henryv on June 30th, 2012 11:00 pm

    Please tell me someone saw Kawasaki being creepy there!

  212. Slats on June 30th, 2012 11:00 pm

    Figgy!

  213. Breadbaker on June 30th, 2012 11:01 pm

    It was not more strength Ross needed, it was more accuracy.

  214. justdave on June 30th, 2012 11:02 pm

    Trade Figgy now! :) :) :)

  215. Westside guy on June 30th, 2012 11:04 pm

    I want to see Wedge call for a suicide squeeze, one of these days…

  216. msfanmike on June 30th, 2012 11:04 pm

    Mid 80′s: in no way are we disagreeing. We only disagree on who should be calling the rule book. Human error is part of the deal.

    I can certainly live with it, anyway. I might not always like it, but I can live with it.

  217. msfanmike on June 30th, 2012 11:06 pm

    I saw Kawasaki getting a little extra wrestle time with someone who was not Figgins … If that is what you mean.

    I did see it and my wife noticed it too.

  218. vetted_coach on June 30th, 2012 11:07 pm

    Muni definitely is a strange dude. I watched his entire routine when Ackley scored. Impossible to describe.

  219. vetted_coach on June 30th, 2012 11:09 pm

    “a littleo extra wrestle time.”. I am doubled over laughing. What was that?!

  220. juneau_fan on June 30th, 2012 11:14 pm

    A love that dare not speak its name?

  221. Westside guy on June 30th, 2012 11:16 pm

    I think Muni is just in heaven right now, being in Major League Baseball and on the same roster as his idol, Ichiro.

    He’s just living in the moment. I think it’s great, even if it’s a bit odd at times.

    I love the jazz hands. I love the pushups at first base.

  222. msfanmike on June 30th, 2012 11:20 pm

    It looked like he dove on your boy Wells for a few extra seconds of manly celebration. And with a weird grin to boot.

    Maybe Muni has the Griffey tickle lead, now with his own interpretation thereof

  223. msfanmike on June 30th, 2012 11:22 pm

    Right elbow, arm numbness/twinge For Erasmo.

    Yeah, wait for the MRI – but this sounds just like it looked.

  224. r-gordon-7 on June 30th, 2012 11:23 pm

    I’m with you, Westy – all numbers aside, in an otherwise pretty bleak season, Muni’s quirky but genuinely heartfelt enthusiasm is a joy to watch… Often odd to be sure, but a joy nonetheless…

  225. msfanmike on June 30th, 2012 11:25 pm

    @ Juneau: bring more scrabble words tomorrow

    Don’t mess with the streak …………. Of one, that is

  226. juneau_fan on June 30th, 2012 11:31 pm

    Whatever it takes…

    *sitting here with one sock on*

  227. Mid80sRighty on June 30th, 2012 11:36 pm

    I somewhat agree Mike, I enjoy the human aspect. But, in my example it would give the umps the option of disagreeing with the computer, maintaining the human element.

  228. Mid80sRighty on June 30th, 2012 11:38 pm

    Too many beers in an extra inning game..

  229. stevemotivateir on June 30th, 2012 11:47 pm

    I’m late, but I wanted to point out, that I understood there were 7 active players on that list. The confusing part, was that they mentioned Ortiz. Maybe I heard wrong? Regardless of what Sims said, 7 is the correct number of active players. That number will change very soon, though!

  230. henryv on July 1st, 2012 12:00 am
  231. nvn8vbryce on July 1st, 2012 12:20 am

    Mike, I’m with you on Ramirez. Crap on a cracker, it’ll suck if another player goes down.

  232. Westside guy on July 1st, 2012 12:53 am

    O-key, Henry, I gotta admit that was weird.

  233. stevemotivateir on July 1st, 2012 1:15 am

    Who would have thought, that Kawasaki was the alpha-male on the club?!

  234. nvn8vbryce on July 1st, 2012 8:51 am

    I’m a tiny bit concerned about Henry…

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