Game 131, Mariners at Twins

Mike Snow · August 29, 2012 at 5:00 pm · Filed Under Mariners 

Vargas vs. Deduno, 5:10 pm.

Deduno, who was as wild as his track record would lead you to expect last time against the Mariners, managed to throw mostly strikes and only walk one in his intervening start. However, it took place in Texas against the Rangers, so the tradeoff was that he suddenly became a lot more hittable. We’ll see which version of him the Twins are sending out tonight.

I don’t know when Saunders will be back in the lineup. Lately, it seems like the team tends to talk hopefully about day-to-day injury guys, and it always seems like they still take a few days longer. That means in order to rest Franklin Gutierrez, we get Figgins in center.

Ackley 2B-L
Robinson LF-B
Seager 3B-L
Jaso DH-L
Smoak 1B-B
Thames RF-L
Olivo C-R
Figgins CF-B
Kawasaki SS-L


42 Responses to “Game 131, Mariners at Twins”

  1. msfanmike on August 29th, 2012 5:11 pm

    Olivo and Figgins, huh?


    It’s too bad they could not find a way to work Peguero into today’s lineup and make it really dynamic.

    I will watch no matter who they put out there, regardless.

    Go get ’em guys!

  2. Westside guy on August 29th, 2012 5:12 pm

    Oh man, I think I’m glad I’m stuck at work and can’t watch this one…

    Funniest thing about this game was how Jen Mueller called the Twins’ pitcher “de-nudo” a couple times last night.

  3. Paul B on August 29th, 2012 5:18 pm

    Gratuitous complaint about the lineup. Just imagine it, I can’t face writing it.

  4. Adruidan on August 29th, 2012 5:29 pm

    Olivo and Figgins are two of our best players, can’t wait to see the results!

  5. Westside guy on August 29th, 2012 5:31 pm

    This is a lineup De-nudo should be salivating over. And, so far, he’s having little issue with it…

  6. msfanmike on August 29th, 2012 5:49 pm

    Here is some good news: Jeff Pentland appears to be working some of his magic with Alex Liddi. Liddi has been on fire lately, he has made a huge cut in his strikeout rate over the past several weeks and his once pathetic overall AAA numbers have reached an acceptable level.

    I wonder if Liddi might also get some time at 1B after he is called up next month. Certainly, he will get some PT at 3B, right? And hopefully – zero time in LF.

  7. McD on August 29th, 2012 5:51 pm

    The Mariners are so rude. Figgins, Mune, and Olivo in the lineup on the same night? I’d be offended if I were the Twins that the Mariners aren’t taking this game seriously.

  8. groundzero55 on August 29th, 2012 5:54 pm

    haha, it’s like we are handicapping them

  9. stevemotivateir on August 29th, 2012 5:55 pm

    Figgins is still on this team? Thought they left him in Chicago.

  10. stevemotivateir on August 29th, 2012 5:58 pm

    Thanks for the update on Liddi, Mike. Good to hear. I’ve been real hopeful that he could get it figured out. Wonder if his glove at first has improved any.

  11. stevemotivateir on August 29th, 2012 5:59 pm

    Damn, Jason’s thrown a lot of pitches already.

  12. Adruidan on August 29th, 2012 6:00 pm

    I was really hoping Hultzen would be polished enough to be up by now.

  13. stevemotivateir on August 29th, 2012 6:01 pm

    I don’t know about anyone else, but I really like Mauer. I’d be thrilled if Zunino was anything close to him.

  14. msfanmike on August 29th, 2012 6:04 pm

    His glove at 1B appeared to be a lot better than advertised, but 3B is clearly his best position on defense.

    Two runs for the Twins. That could be enough against today’s lineup. I Hope not, but I feel bad for Vargas, anyway.

  15. stevemotivateir on August 29th, 2012 6:08 pm

    I haven’t followed Liddi’s glove-work in Tacoma at all. Usually just check the box scores and call it good, unless I’m bored.

    Well, this is disturbing.

  16. msfanmike on August 29th, 2012 6:12 pm

    I like watching this umpires mechanics behind the plate. Crouches late (and quickly), Gets low, gets inside and protects himself. He also bounces around with good energy. Apparently he missed the memo about riding high and becoming a human backstop. Who is this guy?

    Good work, ump.

  17. Adruidan on August 29th, 2012 6:21 pm

    I heard the M’s were trading Olivo, Figgins, and Kawasaki for Joe Mauer who was claimed by M’s on waivers.

  18. msfanmike on August 29th, 2012 6:21 pm

    Hey dumb ass – you just got a $40 baseball. And an invitation out of the stadium.

  19. stevemotivateir on August 29th, 2012 6:27 pm

    You didn’t hear that, Adruidan. You’ve been playing in your parents medicine cabinet again.

  20. Adruidan on August 29th, 2012 6:31 pm

    I saw Ackley, Smoak, and even Fields when I lived in Omaha. I thought all three were going to be great MLB players. Always wished I had a job in a MLB office, but with my scouting skills…ouch.

  21. Adruidan on August 29th, 2012 6:32 pm

    I also thought Andrew Miller would be great and David Price would be great. What is the ratio of hits to misses scouts get? LOL

  22. msfanmike on August 29th, 2012 6:33 pm

    Hey, another “roll over” by Beethoven.

    Carp has played the past couple nights, so hopefully when he comes back, they can “shut down” the Smoak experience. They should send him to the AFL, but that isn’t likely.

  23. stevemotivateir on August 29th, 2012 6:34 pm

    I believe Ackley will be a great MLB player. He has the tools and he’s smart enough to make adjustments. It’s just that most of what he’s tried this season, hasn’t worked. But I believe he’ll get it figured out.

  24. Adruidan on August 29th, 2012 6:35 pm

    I now live in Minnesota and the 2014 All Star coverage is driving me nuts. I still don’t see a home stadium having such an All Star output in production in the history of the sport like Seattle when it was at SafeCo. The memories are great, and they hurt…oh being an M’s fan!!

  25. stevemotivateir on August 29th, 2012 6:37 pm

    I don’t know about you, Mike, but I’d really like Smoak to get a full year, or close-to, in Tacoma. Don’t care if he gets hot (next year, of course), I want to see him hit consistently there before making another appearance in a M’s uniform. They’ll probably try to package him this offseason, though -and I’d be ok with that.

  26. Adruidan on August 29th, 2012 6:40 pm

    We have to package something because the free agent class will not put us in any wild card contention next year unless Ackley improves to expected, Seagar progresses, Saunders at least stays stable, Montero progresses, and one of our elite prospects becomes servicable. A lot to ask without a market to pull from.

  27. msfanmike on August 29th, 2012 6:42 pm

    Is it to late for the Twins Pitcher to change his first name to “Menudo.”

    On that low note … Thank you and good night!

    Tomorrow is another day.

  28. Adruidan on August 29th, 2012 6:49 pm

    Plouffe is on substances. His performance unfortunately matches that.

  29. stevemotivateir on August 29th, 2012 6:50 pm

    Mauer cleared waivers. Doubt he goes anywhere.

  30. stevemotivateir on August 29th, 2012 6:56 pm

    Adruidan, I gotta warn ya… you can’t make comments like that on this site. It wont be tolerated. And for good reason. It’s in the comment guidlines. Not tryna be an ass, just giving you a heads-up. Might wanna read through the guidlines, so you’re aware of what can and can’t be posted.

  31. Adruidan on August 29th, 2012 6:59 pm

    Sarcasim isn’t allowed for a die-hard Mariners fan on this site? I did not know that. I am a huge supporter so I am sorry that is the case.

  32. stevemotivateir on August 29th, 2012 7:02 pm

    I know you were joking, given his .240 average, but not everyone will pick up on it, unless you make it clear in the comment itself. And that’s something you’ll see here quite often. It’s just a head’s up man.

  33. stevemotivateir on August 29th, 2012 7:04 pm

    For the record, I thought it was funny. Humor is much appreciated. Especially in a game like tonights.

  34. vetted_coach on August 29th, 2012 7:12 pm

    Notes from the underground:

    1. M’s optioned their second best OF and kept a SS with an OPS of .477

    2. Wells is -and will always be- a better ball player than either Thames or Robinson.

    3. Saunders is overrated. He got to play through a 4-60 slump. Still a below-mlb-avg. .714 OPS. Good range, but mediocre defensive skills.

    4. Sweet Mariner ride, but losing Ichiro was a liftoff. He was a front runner. If going to the Yankees suddenly improves your attitude, it says more about the player than the team.

    Of course most will disagree violently. NBD. The game is played on the field, not in math books. 30 years of professional work in baseball have taught me plenty about the game and about players.

    OK – start your thrashing. It’s good for you. 🙂

  35. californiamariner on August 29th, 2012 7:26 pm

    Well, do you want the Mariners to keep 5 outfielders and not have an infielder to play off the bench? I’d like to see Wells on the roster, but it is not like sending him down is a crazy idea. Saunders has been one of the better players for the M’s all season; as a professional I don’t imagine you would normally bench a guy like that over a slump that lasts a couple weeks.

  36. Adruidan on August 29th, 2012 7:30 pm

    Well today looks like a disaster. But I think the M’s are still a 75-81 win team this year which makes me tune in with my MLB package more often. I just wishe the FA market next year was amiable to our goals. Smoak probably isn’t tradeable at this point without excepting an Olivo/Reed disaster. Vargas is not a trade chip because he can’t produce a prospect worth cultivating. I know we a are built for 2015, but I din’t want complacency there and beyond a la Seahawks with Dennis Erickson.

  37. californiamariner on August 29th, 2012 7:34 pm

    Don’t give up on next year yet or especially 2014! Crazier things have happened in baseball!

  38. marcus_andrews on August 29th, 2012 9:25 pm

    Okay so this seems like a shot at Coach, it’s not, it’s a question for everyone. Why does Casper NEED to be given more time? I’ve been a big fan of his and I really hoped he would develop in to a solid starting caliber right fielder but I just don’t see it.

    I’m not saying he’s worse than Thames or Robinson (he’s probably slightly better than both) but what makes everyone think he’s anything more than what he’s shown? He’s had a decent amount of MLB at bats and has shown no ability to make consistent contact. He’s streaky and in his good streaks you wonder why he doesn’t play all the time. But when he’s cold, it’s brutal to watch. I think he has a spot on an MLB roster but as old as he is, and as flawed as he has proven to be, I don’t understand the infatuation with him. He’s not as good as Saunders (i’d still like him to prove it next season), and he’s not as good as Guti. If I’m just completely missing something, please explain it to me.

    Again, I like Casper and always have. I just think he is who we always thought he would be and I don’t feel we need any more evidence to see that.

  39. Westside guy on August 29th, 2012 9:54 pm

    Just my opinion, obviously – but I think Wells has been on a shorter leash than these other guys, and I don’t really understand why.

    The only thing I can figure is it’s maybe because of his age. Maybe the team thinks – for whatever reason – he is what he is and can’t develop any further.

  40. stevemotivateir on August 30th, 2012 6:37 am

    Imagine if every one of us recycled our opinions, over and over, and delivered it with arrogance, often stating things as fact without evidence. How much fun would that be?!

  41. Mid80sRighty on August 30th, 2012 7:42 am

    Funny Steve!

    Seriously, vetted, your first 3 “points” were all about Wells. He’s a good ball player, no doubt, but he’s not Willie Mays. You can take your lips off his ass anytime now. Wells is no more than a role player, like pretty much every other player on the M’s roster right now. Quite puzzling that he was sent down while Figlet is still there, but whatever, he’ll only be in Tacoma for what, 2 more days now?

  42. msfanmike on August 30th, 2012 8:59 am

    VC isn’t going anywhere (regardless of what he might say) until we know who he is, or until everyone agrees with him on the 3 points he repeatedly makes. IMO

    The smart money is on the latter.

    Taking a poke at math is not a “point.” It just makes you look like you weren’t good at math.

    He came up with an “answer” to a non-issue that he created while trying to cause an argument that he simultaneously exited.

    What more do you need to know about what occurs within the “underground.”

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