Game 132, Mariners at Twins

Dave · August 30, 2012 at 9:53 am · Filed Under Mariners 

Duensing vs Beavan, 10:05 am.

Morning baseball featuring two of the least interesting pitchers in the sport. Feel the excitement.

Ackley, 2B
Gutierrez, CF
Seager, 3B
Montero, C
Smoak, 1B
Olivo, DH
Robinson, LF
Thames, RF
Ryan, SS


73 Responses to “Game 132, Mariners at Twins”

  1. msfanmike on August 30th, 2012 1:18 pm

    Fuck fuck fuck!

    Well, that’s not the phrase being moderated.

  2. marcus_andrews on August 30th, 2012 1:18 pm

    It’s the opposite of “On Subject” if that makes sense? Haha.

    Okay I know it’s a small sample and all, but Wilhelmsen’s last few outings have been more “edge of your seat” than he had been most of the year.

  3. msfanmike on August 30th, 2012 1:19 pm

    Marcus, maybe you live too close (geographically) to VC. That might be reason enough for some extra double-secret probation moderation.

  4. marcus_andrews on August 30th, 2012 1:23 pm

    I wish VC was more open to others’ opinions. I think having someone with a more “old school” mindset would be nice. We all love new statistics but if he were willing to have a calm conversation about why he values certain things more than the numbers (an argument that doesn’t include how many years of expierence he has) I think it could prove some enlightenment.

    But alas, those of us with less than 29 years of playing or coaching baseball just can’t comprehend his scouting ability.

  5. Swungonandbelted on August 30th, 2012 1:23 pm

    feh. Is this strike zone today really as bad as MLBgameday shows it?

  6. marcus_andrews on August 30th, 2012 1:23 pm

    This is what I was trying to say initially, hopefully one of these times it goes through.

    “I won a contest for Kiro radio (well, had my name drawn) and get to go on to the field for batting practice and talk to some players. Anyone have anything they’re dying to have asked or would really like me to look out for?”

    And yes, this is a thinnly veiled way of bragging that I get to go on the field for BP but I am curious if you guys have anything that you would like to know? I don’t comment here every game but I do read the comments every game so I have quite a bit of respect for the regular posters’ opinions so if you guys have anything let me know.

  7. msfanmike on August 30th, 2012 1:24 pm

    Woooohooooo – winsies!

    Back to ‘work.’

  8. msfanmike on August 30th, 2012 1:24 pm

    Decent road trip (3-4). 4-3 would have felt a lot better.

  9. Westside guy on August 30th, 2012 1:27 pm

    on a tangent… nope, that’s not it. Okay I won’t keep trying hehehe.


  10. Westside guy on August 30th, 2012 1:28 pm

    Wow, that is great Marcus! Congratulations!

  11. marcus_andrews on August 30th, 2012 1:30 pm

    The term is the opposite of “on” and then tropic without the r. Hopefully that will get through.

  12. Westside guy on August 30th, 2012 1:33 pm

    Ah! You are right Marcus, and I just tested it and got moderated. 😀

    That’s weird, though – is the thinking that people will *say* that when they are *being* that? hehehe

  13. Westside guy on August 30th, 2012 1:34 pm

    Marcus – you should ask the players if they ever feel like stopping and applauding when Ryan makes a really spectacular play. 😀

    And ask Olivo if he knows his cERA. hehehe

  14. marcus_andrews on August 30th, 2012 1:37 pm

    Haha I suppose so. Kind of funny though because I feel like conversations go on to tangents often but if someone warns they are about to it gets flagged.

    Oh well, another series win for the M’s. Hopefully they can keep inching their way towards .500. At least we don’t have any more games against the White Sox to halt our progress haha.

  15. marcus_andrews on August 30th, 2012 1:40 pm

    I think I need to avoid Olivo entirely. I’m worried that I would end up getting myself kicked out with the questions I wish I could ask him.

  16. msfanmike on August 30th, 2012 1:40 pm

    I just pulled up the video of that last play. Smoak did not tag the batter-runner, but the umpire was pointing to a spot while explaining something to the runner (shortly after the play). I would bet he was explaining that he was called out for going out of the baseline in order to avoid the tag. The runner establishes his own line (and usually it is straight heading toward 1B – while up for some interpretation between the other bases).

    Good call by the ump. IMO

  17. Westside guy on August 30th, 2012 1:50 pm

    Actually there would be an interesting question for one of the catchers – during a game, how much talking do they do with the ump?

    Or maybe everyone but me already knows that.

  18. marcus_andrews on August 30th, 2012 1:58 pm

    That’s a good question actually. I caught growing up so catching questions are facinating to me. Also wondering how much they game plan with each day’s pitchers and whether it varies. It seems like Milwood would need less time discussing the scouting report than Erasmo and things like that.

    I wish I could ask things like “Why can’t you chest up a ball properly?” And “Do you have some sort of information that would get Eric Wedge fired if he sat you?” and “Did you know taking four balls gets you on first base as well?” Or “How can you be such a terrible guess hitter when you’re a catcher? Wouldn’t you throw yourself 5 straight down and away sliders if you were catching?” and other things of that nature.

  19. Westside guy on August 30th, 2012 2:00 pm

    Oh man, Marcus, I would pay money to hear you ask those questions. 😀

    Maybe a less “don’t get punched in the face” way of asking would be – how come all catchers don’t hit .500, given what they know?

  20. marcus_andrews on August 30th, 2012 2:13 pm

    Haha perhaps that is a more delicate way of approaching the question.. I think I would just ask Jaso if his experience behind the plate helps him when he’s at the plate or something along those lines. So avoid taking a pot shot at Miguel.

  21. Mike Snow on August 30th, 2012 2:15 pm

    Staying on topic is less of an issue in game threads, but yes, any comment that self-identifies as deviating from the subject under discussion will automatically go into the moderation queue.

  22. Beniitec on August 30th, 2012 2:24 pm

    Can someone let the Oakland A’s know that they are supposed to lose? Holy smokes!

  23. msfanmike on August 30th, 2012 2:26 pm

    Personal experience (no higher than Semi-Pro):

    Catchers and umpires talk all game. Not much dialogue, but there is some – and it goes on throughout the game. Both catchers … and every one of them has their own personality

    Umpire: Your job today is to prevent that ball from hitting me.

    Catcher: Okay, blue

    Umpire makes a call: Either ball or strike, it doesn’t matter

    Catcher: That up? That down? That out? That in? Or, good call!

    Umpire: Answer based on whatever he just called. Or, sometimes he will say, “I missed it.” Yes, they do miss them and they usually know it. Otherwise – “good pitch (or) got the corner (or) got the edge (or) got the top (or) got the bottom … let’s go!”

    Catcher: No problem – or says nothing

    Umpire: Stay low – you blocked me on that pitch
    Catcher: No problem

    Coach (to his catcher): Did he miss that pitch

    Smart cather: Shakes head no No
    Dumb catcher: Subtly nods head Yes
    Politically inclined catcher: Says nothing … which means “yes.”

    Coach: Usually smart enough to ask the Catchers opinion, but he is really yelling at the umpire while calling out the catchers name.
    Umpire to catcher: Tell your coach to stop asking

    Fans: The plate is not round, Blue … it has corners. Which is a time tested fan favorite.

    Umpire: Pretend to ignore it, while realizing what they know is what they know. Or, maybe they were right … maybe I did suck on that pitch – amongst the 300 pitches I will see today

    Umpire between innings: Bounce, 2 more – bring it down
    Catcher: COMING DOWN!
    Umpire: Let’s have a Batter!

    This goes on all game, every game.

    When a catcher is really frustrated with a pitcher (and its rarely ever the other way around), it is kinda comical. A 5’6″ catcher bossing around a 6’5″ pitcher – and cussing him during the game.

    The worst thing to do (as an umpire) is to miss a pitch when the Catcher is up to bat.

    The next worst thing (as the Catcher who may or may not have gotten screwed) is to remind the Umpire of it when you go back to play Defense.

    The smart catcher will say: “We want that pitch, too.”

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