Game 40, Mariners at Yankees

marc w · May 16, 2013 at 3:05 pm · Filed Under Mariners 

Aaron Harang whoops Hector Noesi vs. Andy Pettitte, 4:05pm

Your Mariners begin play tonight tied for second place with the free-falling Oakland A’s. With the A’s off, the M’s have a great chance to wrest control of 2nd and jump into the fringes of the wild card chase. It’s somewhat funny that we all thought the addition of the Astros would give the AL West an advantage in the wild card hunt, but instead the AL Central has four teams ahead of Seattle, with one (the White Sox) only a game or so back.

Speaking of somewhat funny, tonight’s pitching match-up would have been a must-see game in 2006. Aaron Harang peaked with a pair of five-win seasons in 2006-07, while Andy Pettitte sandwitched five-win seasons around an injury year in 2003/2005*. While Pettitte’s had an up-and-down campaign thus far, he’s coming off a bizarrely effective 2012 (after retiring in 2010), and he claims to have made mechanical adjustments that led to a successful start five days ago. We’ll see. Aaron Harang has *really* been up and down, and apparently, it doesn’t matter, as he’s been scratched with back stiffness. The thought of skipping Harang’s spot in short-porchy Yankee Stadium is a great one, but be careful what you wish for, M’s fans. Today marks the 2013 starting debut for ex-Yankee Hector Noesi.

This is the spot where’d I’d point out that Pettitte, especially during his comeback, has been death on a stick against lefties, largely thanks to an effective cutter. I’d also point out that Hector Noesi is HECTOR NOESI, and that his lack of HRs allowed is just sitting there, taunting me and muttering about the Gambler’s Fallacy. On paper, this is just a weird, weird looking game. If the past few days are anything to go by, Noesi will throw a shutout and Ibanez will homer off of a Pettitte cutter.

Line-up:
1: Saunders, CF
2: Bay, LF
3: Seager, 3B
4: Morales, DH 1B
5: Morse, RF
6: Ibanez, DH
7: Montero, C
8: Ackley, 2B
9: Ryan, SS
SP: :deep breath: Hector Noesi

While it’s tempting to gorge on the incongruity of it a game like tonight’s M’s game, I’m going to head to Cheney Stadium for the first of a four game set pitting the Rainiers against the Memphis Redbirds. Before the season started, I targeted this series as the match-up of the two potentially most prospect-laden teams in all of minor league baseball. If you think I’d like to backpedal from that statement now, well, thanks, that’s very kind of you….just a little…yeah, there we go. I thought Taijuan Walker would be assigned to Tacoma, that Hultzen would be healthy and that Carlos Martinez would be in Memphis. But Walker’s in AA, Hultzen’s in the training room and Martinez skipped AAA and is in the Cardinals bullpen. Still – these games feature two of the absolute best position-player prospects in all of baseball in Mike Zunino and Oscar Taveras. Pitching for Memphis is another top prospect, RHP command-artist Michael Wacha, who would probably be in St. Louis now if the Cards rotation wasn’t already incredible. If you feel like getting out to a game this weekend, you should probably head down to Tacoma and check it out. Jimmy Gilheeney starts for Tacoma in Hultzen’s place tonight, but the whole series has a lot of interesting match-ups to watch as MLB’s #1 and 2 (or thereabouts) minor league orgs face off.
[Edit to add: another reason to check out the game tonight? Franklin Gutierrez will DH in his first rehab start.]

* Pettitte’s biggest WAR year? Way back in 1997, when the M’s were setting HR records, making the playoffs, making regrettable trades for Heathcliff Slocumb, and when a young Andy Pettitte put up a 7 win season for a solid team but lost to Jaret Wright and the Indians in the ALDS.

Comments

105 Responses to “Game 40, Mariners at Yankees”

  1. ndevale on May 16th, 2013 3:12 pm

    hector….noooooooooooooo eh. si.

  2. zeebfan on May 16th, 2013 3:14 pm

    ANOTHER game with no first basemen?

  3. marc w on May 16th, 2013 3:24 pm

    Sorry zeebfan – fixed.

  4. currcoug on May 16th, 2013 3:30 pm

    Call me cynical, but Wedge better be ready with a quick hook tonight. We can hope that Noesi pitches well against his old mates, but this could quickly turn into a rout by the Yankees.

    However, I will counter the above with some optimism, and predict Morse will homer tonight.

    At least the M’s are on the road, and Morse won’t be able to torture Steve with “Take on Me”.

  5. ndevale on May 16th, 2013 3:33 pm

    so who is the long guy today? not that they might need one or anything….

  6. Snuffy on May 16th, 2013 3:35 pm

    Pettitte OPS vLHB is .418 (SSS). His ops vRHB is .850, but his cutter can be harder on RHB. No Smoak and no Shoppach but we do go with the hot hand in Raul (a LHB) v Pettitte (a LHP). Betting against Raul has been a bad move lately. His ability to get the big hit at Yankee Stadium is too much for Wedge to pass up. Better… Andino is watching Ackley play and not the other way around. I still like Noesi (color me stupidly optimistic) but this is a really big start for him. Please, please… no 0-2 groove pitches for a big bomb. He has been decent, for the most part, out of the pen. His 5/5 games looks worse than it was on paper. Maybe his future is the bullpen.

  7. jase411 on May 16th, 2013 3:39 pm

    Was I the only Mariners fan on Earth that was actually happy to see Noesi instead of Harang?? Or are the only other happy ones Yankee fans? Neither inspire confidence, but for some reason Noesi gives me more than Harang. Maybe I am just nuts, I don’t know.

  8. SonOfZavaras on May 16th, 2013 3:45 pm

    Saw on the MLBTradeRumors wire that Reid Brignac has been designated for assignment by the Rockies.

    Sigh. There’s a guy we’d probably BEG to have right now over Andino. AND he bats left-handed.

    What would it take to land him? And have ready, in like, oh, fifteen minutes for this game?

  9. marc w on May 16th, 2013 3:46 pm

    I will fight Raul no more forever. (At least in this series).

  10. killeverything on May 16th, 2013 3:48 pm

    Jase, even Noesi is better than Harang and I realize that’s like saying “would you rather be shot in the stomach or stabbed in the stomach?”

  11. marc w on May 16th, 2013 3:48 pm

    For international prospect fans, the Clinton Lumberkings face off against Athletics can’t miss phenom Michael Ynoa today. Yes, that one, the guy who signed the biggest international free agent contract ever and who constitutes one of Billy Beane’s more notable misses. He’s still around, and was actually added to Oakland’s 40-man this year, but he’s still in A ball thanks to a series of injuries.

  12. SonOfZavaras on May 16th, 2013 3:56 pm

    Today we learn if “Dead Red” Noesi has truly found a pitch for strike three yet.

    I like his arm, in and of itself…but the sight of him serving up so many costly gopherballs rocketing into the night is gonna be tough to get over until we see, like, 20 quality starts in a row.

    I am really, really nervous for this game all of a sudden. It has the odious smell of “a day when wheels of hope started to come off”.

  13. henryv on May 16th, 2013 3:58 pm

    So, we’ve got Noesi on the mound, and Raul DHing against a LHP?

    Holy fuck, are we even trying to win?

  14. henryv on May 16th, 2013 4:05 pm

    Ibanez wRC+ last 2 seasons against LHP: 40
    Smoak wRC+ last 2 seasons against RHP: 95

    It would probably be harder to put together a worse 9 hitters than Wedge has put together, without substituting more with Andino, I guess.

  15. scraps on May 16th, 2013 4:11 pm

    You knew Wedge was going to stick Raul in there, what with two games with three home runs.

    I’d even bet that more than half of the major league’s managers would agree; it’s not just Wedge, I think.

  16. henryv on May 16th, 2013 4:17 pm

    Well, same old Hector so far.

  17. henryv on May 16th, 2013 4:19 pm

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot-hand_fallacy

    Most baseball managers were also baseball players, and probably didn’t do very well in their advanced stats class. :)

  18. henryv on May 16th, 2013 4:25 pm

    I think that the contract the team is thinking of giving to Morse, they should just cross out “Micahel Morse” and write “Kendrys Morales” under the signature line.

  19. henryv on May 16th, 2013 4:27 pm

    Michael Morse hits for average, but his OBP kills puppies.

  20. henryv on May 16th, 2013 4:29 pm

    Raul needs to get himself ejected, so I can stop being pissed off about this line up.

  21. G-Man on May 16th, 2013 4:29 pm

    Raul needed to Beltre self-appeal there.

  22. G-Man on May 16th, 2013 4:32 pm

    Thanks, we needed that, Dustin.

  23. G-Man on May 16th, 2013 4:33 pm

    Sims, I don’t know if that was a catch.

  24. californiamariner on May 16th, 2013 4:35 pm

    Well looks like we won’t have Wedge to blame for any late game substitutions.

  25. jase411 on May 16th, 2013 4:36 pm

    I wonder if our win % just rose because Wedge was ejected???

  26. henryv on May 16th, 2013 4:37 pm

    http://seattle.mariners.mlb.com/team/coach_staff_bio.jsp?c_id=sea&coachorstaffid=123628

    Our bench coach doesn’t even get a name in the name box. Awesome.

  27. henryv on May 16th, 2013 4:41 pm

    That should be an .3 error on Morales. Morales needs to get that.

  28. henryv on May 16th, 2013 4:42 pm

    Defense matters, kids.

  29. MissouriMariner on May 16th, 2013 4:54 pm

    Why did Wedge get tossed?

  30. bookbook on May 16th, 2013 5:00 pm

    I don’t care why, I think it’s a good thing, every so often.

  31. stevemotivateir on May 16th, 2013 5:01 pm

    Because Wedge is a tosser.

  32. Woodcutta on May 16th, 2013 5:02 pm

    Did I just see Morse walk?

  33. stevemotivateir on May 16th, 2013 5:03 pm

    Nice to see some early walks.

  34. MissouriMariner on May 16th, 2013 5:03 pm

    I am no Wedge fan but was curious as I had not been paying attention and am keeping up with the game on Gameday……

  35. stevemotivateir on May 16th, 2013 5:04 pm

    3 innings pitched, 3 K’s for Noesi. Not a bad start so far.

  36. Woodcutta on May 16th, 2013 5:05 pm

    Let’s go Ackley.

  37. HighlightsAt11 on May 16th, 2013 5:06 pm

    Was that a bunt attempt? Second time in the row, Raul with RISP, not getting it done.

  38. stevemotivateir on May 16th, 2013 5:06 pm

    I missed the first two innings, so I’m playing catch-up as weill, Missouri. He was ejected by the 1B umpire in the bottom of the second, so I’ll speculate it had something to do with a play there.

  39. HighlightsAt11 on May 16th, 2013 5:08 pm

    At least Ackley didn’t hit into a DP.

  40. stevemotivateir on May 16th, 2013 5:09 pm

    Ryan’s due for a slam.

  41. stevemotivateir on May 16th, 2013 5:09 pm

    Ha! That was a slam for Ryan!

  42. stevemotivateir on May 16th, 2013 5:10 pm

    Saunders is due for a slam.

  43. HighlightsAt11 on May 16th, 2013 5:10 pm

    Ryan produces…finally!

  44. G-Man on May 16th, 2013 5:10 pm

    He went out to argue after a Ryan liner to right that ump said Ichiro caught, but might have trapped. I still am nor sure, but Sims/Blowers claim it was caught. Speculation is that Wedge’s anger went back to some other call(s).

  45. MissouriMariner on May 16th, 2013 5:10 pm

    Was Wedge arguing the Ichiro catch?

  46. MissouriMariner on May 16th, 2013 5:11 pm

    Posted at the same time…..sorry

  47. jordan on May 16th, 2013 5:12 pm

    That was a catch…

  48. MissouriMariner on May 16th, 2013 5:13 pm

    It looks like a catch to me on the replay…

  49. HighlightsAt11 on May 16th, 2013 5:19 pm

    Wedge just wanted to get kicked from the game for any reason…so if Noesi breaks in later innings Wedge can deflect any responsibility.

  50. Woodcutta on May 16th, 2013 5:19 pm

    Montero is going to have start wearing full body armor.

  51. MissouriMariner on May 16th, 2013 5:20 pm

    So is the umpire really squeezing the pitcher or is it just gameday?

  52. HighlightsAt11 on May 16th, 2013 5:22 pm

    It’s both

  53. MissouriMariner on May 16th, 2013 5:23 pm

    I know this is not a new discussion but the umpiring this year, really seems to have gone downhill….

  54. Woodcutta on May 16th, 2013 5:24 pm

    How was that not strike 3?

  55. HighlightsAt11 on May 16th, 2013 5:25 pm

    I’m quite impressed with Hector locating the ball and not giving in to Vernon.

  56. Woodcutta on May 16th, 2013 5:27 pm

    Sorry, I thought the second pitch of the at bat that you know crossed the inside corner of the plate was strike two. It really is a disadvantage to have to get four strikes to get a batter out.

  57. G-Man on May 16th, 2013 5:30 pm

    They didn’t expect him to K two straight, so something must be wrong with him?

  58. HighlightsAt11 on May 16th, 2013 5:41 pm

    Interesting… Hector is charged the error, and avoids getting charged an earned run.

  59. Woodcutta on May 16th, 2013 5:46 pm

    Noesi deserved to try and get through the 5th and a chance for the win. If he lets another batter get on base then pull him but at least give him a chance to get a double play to get out of the inning.

  60. stevemotivateir on May 16th, 2013 5:48 pm

    Yeah, we really can’t complain about Noesi’s performance tonight.

  61. HighlightsAt11 on May 16th, 2013 5:50 pm

    I was hoping Hector would be able to earn a quality start. He just earned a chance to be a part of the rotation, at least temporarily.

    So whats the status of Ramirez?

  62. stevemotivateir on May 16th, 2013 5:52 pm

    Ramirez is still in Arizona pitching simulated game, last I heard, which was a few days ago. Expected to hit Tacoma soon.

  63. stevemotivateir on May 16th, 2013 5:54 pm

    Well, I just took a look at the Rainiers roster and Ramirez is now on it, but on the 7 day DL.

  64. HighlightsAt11 on May 16th, 2013 5:54 pm

    Oliver getting it done.

  65. stevemotivateir on May 16th, 2013 5:55 pm

    Morse!!!

  66. HighlightsAt11 on May 16th, 2013 5:57 pm

    Wish Perez had been called in to relieve Felix in game one.

  67. Dave in Palo Alto on May 16th, 2013 5:59 pm

    Jesus Montero is not having a good year.

  68. jordan on May 16th, 2013 6:08 pm

    Raise your hand if you predicted the M’s taking 2 of 3 from the Yanks with that one loss being the game Felix started.

  69. HighlightsAt11 on May 16th, 2013 6:10 pm

    I’m not raising my hand. I’m picking my nose.

  70. HighlightsAt11 on May 16th, 2013 6:13 pm

    Ok Medina, time to show that you belong.

  71. HighlightsAt11 on May 16th, 2013 6:16 pm

    Kelley will whiff’em by Ryan.

    Ryan prove me wrong.

  72. HighlightsAt11 on May 16th, 2013 6:18 pm

    At least Brendan is getting some contact. Only Ryan and Morse have not struck out this game.

  73. HighlightsAt11 on May 16th, 2013 6:20 pm

    Come on Kyle, knock Bay in. Need some insurance run(s).

  74. G-Man on May 16th, 2013 6:33 pm

    Oh God, with Montero and Morales in the field, a bunt scares me.

  75. jordan on May 16th, 2013 6:45 pm

    If I’m manager, Tom is going to get a 2 inning save today.

  76. HighlightsAt11 on May 16th, 2013 6:45 pm

    Very bad omen the M’s having to go deep into the bullpen.

    Why is Leutge on this team?

  77. jordan on May 16th, 2013 6:51 pm

    10HR and 17RBI is just sad. Morse is always up with the bases empty.

  78. HighlightsAt11 on May 16th, 2013 6:52 pm

    Capps to strike out the side bottom of the eighth. Please no Furbush.

  79. HighlightsAt11 on May 16th, 2013 6:55 pm

    3 K’s. Either Raul lost his contacts or his NYC adrenaline bump has run out.

  80. HighlightsAt11 on May 16th, 2013 6:59 pm

    No Walks!

  81. Woodcutta on May 16th, 2013 7:00 pm

    Ibanez hasn’t been able to lay off the low and outside pitch tonight.

  82. HighlightsAt11 on May 16th, 2013 7:01 pm

    Good Carter!

  83. stevemotivateir on May 16th, 2013 7:04 pm

    Morse has came to the plate with runners on 66 times, 39 times with RISP (coming into the game). I wouldn’t say he has been hitting with nobody on in front of him. Only 10 of his RBI’s came with runners on.

  84. HighlightsAt11 on May 16th, 2013 7:05 pm

    DP time. Would someone please go out and talk to Capps.

  85. msfanmike on May 16th, 2013 7:08 pm

    I think I would go with Wilhelmsen in this situation. He can get 4 outs.

  86. HighlightsAt11 on May 16th, 2013 7:09 pm

    What was that first pitch to Ichiro?

  87. msfanmike on May 16th, 2013 7:11 pm

    Is Capps pace/tome between Pitches slower than usual?

  88. HighlightsAt11 on May 16th, 2013 7:12 pm

    Nice job Carter Capps.

    It’s almost Bartender time.

  89. Longgeorge1 on May 16th, 2013 7:13 pm

    If you offered me a 1 run lead going into the 9th I’d would have skipped the first 8

  90. G-Man on May 16th, 2013 7:15 pm

    Longg, who wouldn’t?

  91. HighlightsAt11 on May 16th, 2013 7:15 pm

    That was a good ball for Montero to hit.

  92. stevemotivateir on May 16th, 2013 7:16 pm

    I have to settle for gameday tonight, Mike, so I have no idea what his pace/time is. I can say gameday is slow between pitches, but that’s normal;)

  93. Longgeorge1 on May 16th, 2013 7:17 pm

    Guti just struck out in T-town but he doesn’t appear to have reinjured himself yet.

  94. HighlightsAt11 on May 16th, 2013 7:18 pm

    Ryan with two hits in a game! Not a misprint.

  95. G-Man on May 16th, 2013 7:19 pm

    Wilhelmsen pitching last night bugs me a bit, but I guess he hadn’t worked in awhile, so that’s what you do.

  96. HighlightsAt11 on May 16th, 2013 7:21 pm

    A missed opportunity for Saunders. Eleven strikeouts for the M’s.

  97. gopilots70 on May 16th, 2013 7:22 pm

    Another spectacular defensive play by Ryan in a close game. Nice job by Kendres to save the lead.

  98. HighlightsAt11 on May 16th, 2013 7:27 pm

    Bartender so often allows one base runner…then shuts the book.

  99. G-Man on May 16th, 2013 7:29 pm

    THE more pitches he throws, the more likely he steals.

  100. Coolalvin206 on May 16th, 2013 7:30 pm

    Monterey the worst defensive catcher ever .

  101. G-Man on May 16th, 2013 7:30 pm

    Should have put Shoppach in.

  102. G-Man on May 16th, 2013 7:31 pm

    Pitch carefully a walk is OK to Cano

  103. HighlightsAt11 on May 16th, 2013 7:35 pm

    That’s my bartender! Nice win.

  104. stevemotivateir on May 16th, 2013 7:42 pm

    Ryan had a nice game today. Hit the ball well 3 times, came away with a couple of hits, and played nice defense.

  105. gopilots70 on May 17th, 2013 1:04 am

    Yes, nice defense in the Brendan Ryan bizarro world blogosphere is nearly throwing away the game with an easy throw to first. Gave up the second run and if it wasn’t for Kendres we would still be playing. He can’t hit, will not hit, and he chokes in pressure situations in the field.

    And yes, I know we can count on those infield hits for the rest of the season.

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