Yes, Nick Franklin Seems Familiar
Jeff Sullivan · July 8, 2013 at 5:30 pm · Filed Under Mariners
In the table below, one of the players is 2013 Nick Franklin, while the other player is teammate 2013 Kyle Seager. Which is which? Why don’t you go ahead and look it up yourself, and then take a moment to reflect on the fact that you are apparently a profound and spectacular misser of points.
| Stat | Player A | Player B |
|---|---|---|
| BA | 0.287 | 0.286 |
| OBP | 0.345 | 0.348 |
| SLG | 0.485 | 0.478 |
| ISO | 0.199 | 0.192 |
| BABIP | 0.324 | 0.316 |
| BB% | 8.1% | 8.2% |
| K% | 19% | 17% |
| GB% | 32% | 36% |
| wOBA | 0.360 | 0.358 |
| wRC+ | 134 | 133 |
| O-Swing% | 22% | 25% |
| Z-Swing% | 58% | 57% |
| Swing% | 41% | 41% |
| Contact% | 84% | 83% |
Don’t know where it’s going from here, but most good novels start with good chapters.
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player A is Kyle Seager. I’m taking a shot in the dark here but that’s what i think it is
That’s freaking bizarre. EXACTLY the same in every stat (within margins of error)… Swing rates, contact, walks, K%…
Wow.
That’s awesome. Can we have 11 more clones please?
Dave still wasn’t a fan of Seager at this point. Just saying, too soon to jump for joy as of yet.
They also both were moved off their “natural” positions with the Mariners… Making their success that much more impressive (SSS acknowledged for Franklin)…
bookbook:
Because if Dave wasn’t a fan, then neither should we be? Huh?
I read the headline and was prepared to get so pissed at you for pulling the “vs. Ackley in 2011” gig. I like this much better.
Without looking it up, I agree that A seems like Seager. I say this because it seems to me (without looking at the stats) that he strikes out more often than Franklin. But I also agree it doesn’t matter. I’ll also take 11 more, please.
I would love to have 2 of this player for a long time!
How does the first 30 days of Seager’s MLB career compare to the first 30 days Franklin’s?
Bremerton Guy, I guess my point was too subtle for you.
Aaaand shouldn’t we actually have 3 of these right now? Shouldn’t Ackley (at his worst projected profile) be similar as these?
Wait–this is 2013 Seager, not 2011 Seager… right?
A difference is that Franklin is 22 compared to Seager’s 25. More power may be coming Franklin’s way.
While I realize the Franklin is awesome, I still can’t help but think of this picture every time I see him step to the plate in that helmet.
Eddie Gaedel
GOOD! NOW EVERYBODY STOP JINXING HIM BY COMPARING HIM TO ACKLEY!
“While I realize the Franklin is awesome, I still can’t help but think of this picture every time I see him step to the plate in that helmet.
Eddie Gaedel”
Which is really dumb as Franklin is 6’1″. Seager is only 6’0″.
Jeff, when you said that Nick Franklin was Kyle Seager, I didn’t think you meant it immediately.
A team with seven of them would be phenomenally versatile. A team with eight of them, would have no catcher.
Everybody is Let’s Wait and See on Franklin cuz of Ackley, why NOT compare him to Seager? Because on the Mariner Fan manifesto, Point Number One is “When anything Good Seems to Happen to the Mariners, Count on Being Disappointed Eventually”.
Two game winning streak! Can they make it three? No, I’m not counting on that!
The biggest difference is Seager never had that hideous hillbilly beard. Franklin’s simply not going to be able to maintain any meaningful success until he brings up his FHQ (facial hair quality)
Is the point I am missing that one plays a premium defensive position and the other plays a mid-level defensive position?
I dunno, the table sure seems set up to make the point that player A and player B have nearly identical numbers. If I’m missing the point then perhaps you haven’t done a good job of making a different point and it’s not very nice to make fun of your readers for that.
mrb – Seager is excellent at 2nd. He’s was a 2b all through college. He moved to 3B because the org decided that Ackley needed to be a 2B (despite originally being a college outfielder). I think right now Seager is probably still a better 2B than Franklin.
Now, if you are comparing them at SS, Franklin may be better. But I’m not 100% positive about that either.
Given that Seager turned out to be a good defensive third baseman, we should be happy at whatever chain of events led to him being placed there.
Can you add a Player C and make it Dustin Ackley’s first 39 or 40 games?
How about some props for what Smoak has done since last august 30th?
Forget FHQ, can we talk helmets? http://bit.ly/W9Fx8B
I like the helmet. It’s safer, which is probably good for a guy with a history of a possible bat-to-head induced concussion. More players should be encouraged to wear it instead of being teased.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/13/sports/baseball/13helmet.html
Dustin Ackley Through 64 Games (268 PAs)
0.295/0.369/0.462/0.832 0.363 wOBA 134.8 wRC
BB% 10.8 K% 17.6 GB%40.8 LD%24.7 FB%34.5
O-swing% 23.0 Z-swing% 56.8 Swing% 38.6
Contact% 83.8 Z-Contact% 87.8 O-Contact% 75.0
What I did notice is that those last 28 (AUG) he really took a dive in iso and contact% with big rise in k%.
I miss good Ackley. He was the same sort of hitter when he was good.
For all you profound and spectacular point missers: You don’t need to look it up and find out who’s who. They’ve been the same hitter.
GOD DAMMIT! WHAT DID I SAY!?
It was meant more as a point to show they have a specific type of hitter they seem to target.
I hold the prejudice that Wedge is responsible for the failure of guys like Ackley – but it’s not readily apparent from the stats how that could be possible. Ackley’s swing stats didn’t really change; notably his o-swing didn’t jump up significantly. He… just stopped being able to hit.
However there’s also not much evidence that Wedge and his staff know how to help young hitters develop, either. That’s why I don’t like Zunino being at this level. His catching skills seem good enough already; but his hitting definitely needs work, and Seattle’s MLB roster seems an unlikely place for him to improve. Guys get up here and seem to just stay exactly where they were on day one.
Yeah, just like Seager and Smoak.
“…you are apparently a profound and spectacular misser of points.”
I love this.