Game 108, Mariners at Red Sox

marc w · August 1, 2013 at 3:24 pm · Filed Under Mariners 

King Felix vs. Ryan Dempster, 4:10pm

So the first two games of the series could’ve been better. The M’s have had a few timely hits, and their pitchers have escaped some jams with double plays or through completely insane throws from CF to catch runners at the plate, but they’ve fallen short twice. Nice to send King Felix to the hill to stop a losing streak, but it’d be even better to stop sending Felix out to extend winning streaks instead of stopping losing streaks.

Ryan Dempster’s primarily a three-pitch pitcher: a 91mph fastball, a slider, and a splitter that functions like a change-up. The M’s looked vulnerable to splits last night as Koji Uehara cut through the line-up with ease (Nick Franklin has got to be hoping that Uehara doesn’t pitch tonight), but Dempster struggled mightily against the M’s at Safeco a few weeks back. In that game, he gave up nine hits in 3 1/3IP, including a HR to Kyle Seager. Homers have been a particular problem for Dempster this season, with 20 yielded thus far in 2013. Somewhat unusually for a slider-heavy pitcher, it’s righties who’ve done the most damage. As I mentioned last time, he’s got fairly even splits over his (long) career, with a better K% and HR% against lefties than righties. This is partially undone by much higher walk rates against lefties, however.

1: Miller, SS
2: Franklin, 2B
3: Seager, 3B
4: Morales, DH
5: Saunders, CF
6: Smoak, 1B
7: Chavez, RF
8: Ackley, LF
9: Blanco, C
SP: FELIX

Morse sits to allow Saunders and Ackley to play. Ackley moves to left today, which is somewhat unusual, but Saunders is still the superior defensive CF as he showed last night.

James Paxton starts for the reeling Rainiers at home against Omaha tonight. This is a big game for the Canadian lefty, as he could very easily find himself in the Tacoma rotation in the event the M’s slip Joe Saunders through waivers. He’s been brilliant recently, as we’ve detailed, and another month demonstrating good command will go a long way towards putting the calls for him to shift to the bullpen to rest. Stephen Landazuri starts for High Desert where his opposing starter will be intriguing prospect or historic bonus baby bust Michael Ynoa. Ynoa signed the all-time record (at the time) signing bonus with the A’s in 2008, but injuries and ineffectiveness have kept him in single A. Even so, he was added to the A’s 40-man roster this year; they still believe in the 6’7″ Dominican, though his statistics in 2012-13 do not inspire a lot of confidence.

Comments

95 Responses to “Game 108, Mariners at Red Sox”

  1. Westside guy on August 1st, 2013 3:58 pm

    I know it was my imagination – but for a few weeks I had a wonderful recurring dream where the Mariners had a decent catcher behind the dish.

    I know, I know, it was crazy – must’ve been a reaction to a medication or something.

  2. SeattleSlew on August 1st, 2013 4:04 pm

    I’ll take what you are taking. Can I have some of that medication? It might make it easier to watch the rest of the season.

  3. terryoftacoma on August 1st, 2013 4:16 pm

    I don’t know Westy. We could be like the cards and go from Molina down to Cruz/Johnson. That’s Rob Johnson by the way. haha

  4. californiamariner on August 1st, 2013 4:16 pm

    Beautiful Seager!

  5. Will on August 1st, 2013 4:19 pm

    Seager is amazing, I can’t believe U.S.S. Mariner never talks about him.

  6. Westside guy on August 1st, 2013 4:20 pm

    Real men don’t walk, Michael. Wedge is very disappointed in you.

  7. Westside guy on August 1st, 2013 4:23 pm

    Maybe he’s boringly good, Will? hehehe

    But we could use eight more just like him!

  8. dogkahuna on August 1st, 2013 4:27 pm

    Real brief hijack–are the M’s on a regular rotation and can anyone predict who’ll be on the mound Sun. 8/11? Thanks!

  9. Will on August 1st, 2013 4:36 pm

    Iwakuma is currently scheduled to pitch on the eleventh.

  10. SeattleSlew on August 1st, 2013 4:50 pm

    I have no complaints about Felix but I would like to see him throw the ball inside more often to back batters off the plate, kinda like how Pedro used to do.

  11. raul_podzednick on August 1st, 2013 5:24 pm

    I am thrilled that somebody finally bunted into the shift.

  12. raul_podzednick on August 1st, 2013 5:25 pm

    I can’t see the game, did they run the shift for Kyle’s next AB?

  13. californiamariner on August 1st, 2013 5:37 pm

    Seager is freaking awesome.

  14. sexymarinersfan on August 1st, 2013 5:38 pm

    I love Kyle Seager and there’s no doubt in my mind that Jack extends Morales. Smoak has been hitting better THIS season but better pick it up or DJ Peterson is going to eventually steal his job!!

  15. sexymarinersfan on August 1st, 2013 5:40 pm

    Or if Smoak DOES pick it up then you put Peterson at 3B and move Seager to 2B and Franklin becomes a HUGE piece in a trade for….sorry for the rosterbation, on my 3rd beer at Applebee’s and I must say our future looks brighter!

  16. Section329 on August 1st, 2013 5:46 pm

    ANOTHER SLAM!

  17. sexymarinersfan on August 1st, 2013 5:47 pm

    YES!!!!! TWO GRAND SALAMI’s!!!!!!!!!

  18. californiamariner on August 1st, 2013 5:47 pm

    Blanco!! When he hits a home run he hits a grand slam! No messing around!

  19. sexymarinersfan on August 1st, 2013 5:48 pm

    From now on Blanco comes into pinch hit EVERYTIME the bases are loaded!

  20. msfanmike on August 1st, 2013 5:48 pm

    Hahahahahaha!!!

    I feel 36-42 weeks younger – all of a sudden.

  21. Gormogon on August 1st, 2013 5:53 pm

    What is the significance of Felix’s uterus tattoo on his neck?

  22. WalterNeff on August 1st, 2013 5:54 pm

    Machete!

  23. Westside guy on August 1st, 2013 6:01 pm

    What’s with the 60-year-old man and all the grand slams?

  24. MrZDevotee on August 1st, 2013 6:02 pm

    Blanco! I just missed it…

    I was busy reading the ESPN article that quotes pissed off baseball GM’s (anonymously, of course) ranting about the insane stuff Jack Z was asking for when people called about Morse, Morales and Ibanez…

    Made me smile.

  25. MrZDevotee on August 1st, 2013 6:03 pm

    Westy-
    It’s the “Oldest Guy On The Team” PED spell… Hence, Ibanez’s homer dropoff of late… Coincides with Blanco showing up.

  26. Westside guy on August 1st, 2013 6:06 pm

    MrZ, you may be onto something!

    Or perhaps Blanco stole Raul’s nickname (“abuelo”) and Raul’s been sulking?

  27. Westside guy on August 1st, 2013 6:06 pm

    “Henry stole my stash!”

  28. tubbabubba22 on August 1st, 2013 6:19 pm

    One thing I need to point out… I love Kyle Seager so much it is hard to put into words. That is all.

  29. GhostofMarinersPast on August 1st, 2013 6:28 pm

    Mr. Z

    You got a link got that article?!
    I’d love to read it!

  30. GhostofMarinersPast on August 1st, 2013 6:30 pm

    Sexy

    No way will Seager be moved off third. His defense is phenomenal. Just phenomenal. 3rd is all his

  31. GhostofMarinersPast on August 1st, 2013 6:31 pm

    Can’t you guys see how excited Ellsbury looks! He can’t wait to patrol center field behind Felix next year! I really think he’s our guy. And if we could add pence too…..getting goosebumps…

  32. terryoftacoma on August 1st, 2013 6:39 pm

    Not to bust your dreams but Pence will probably not become a free agent. San Fran will oferr him a QO and he will probably accept because he want to stay there..

  33. MrZDevotee on August 1st, 2013 6:52 pm

    Ghost–
    There’s a story about it on the Seattlepi.com website, and links to it there… That’s how I found it…

    Here’s the story– it’s about “winners & losers” at the trade deadline, and losers has a big thing about people couldn’t believe what Z was asking for in trades…

    http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/9526787/mlb-trade-deadline-winners-losers

    First paragraph of that section:

    “No “seller” inspired more consternation among the clubs we surveyed than the Mariners. In a market with essentially no power bats, this was a team that had three of them (Kendrys Morales, Michael Morse and Raul Ibanez), all in the last year of their contracts – and priced every one of them as if they were Willie Mays.”

  34. juneau_fan on August 1st, 2013 7:01 pm

    The Bartender is going to drive me to drink.

  35. MrZDevotee on August 1st, 2013 7:02 pm

    Okay… 4 pitch walk, can we at least get somebody warming up so I get less nervous with a 5 run lead.

    Bartender! (Not Wilhelmsen, I actually need a drink…)

    (Juneau, we had the same thought– drink please!)

  36. MrZDevotee on August 1st, 2013 7:05 pm

    Make mine a double! (Not the hit, but a stiffer drink…)

  37. argh on August 1st, 2013 7:06 pm

    If the Bartender is all the Ms have to put out to close, they’re never going to get better than mediocre.

  38. argh on August 1st, 2013 7:07 pm

    Pull him. Now. And then DFA him.

  39. MrZDevotee on August 1st, 2013 7:08 pm

    (sigh)

  40. MrZDevotee on August 1st, 2013 7:09 pm

    AFTER 10 balls and six strikes GameDay says Wilhelmsen’s “effectiveness might be slipping”…

    Uh, gee, thanks… Hadn’t noticed.

  41. juneau_fan on August 1st, 2013 7:10 pm

    Hook, please?

  42. MrZDevotee on August 1st, 2013 7:10 pm

    AFTER 10 balls and six strikes GameDay says Wilhelmsen’s “effectiveness might be slipping”…

    Uh, gee, thanks… Hadn’t noticed.

  43. Section329 on August 1st, 2013 7:10 pm

    Who is left to pitch? Mauer, Medina?

  44. juneau_fan on August 1st, 2013 7:10 pm

    Hook, please?

  45. argh on August 1st, 2013 7:11 pm

    Just pathetic.

  46. MrZDevotee on August 1st, 2013 7:11 pm

    Did I NOT ALREADY SAY GET SOMEONE ELSE UP AND READY AFTER THE FIRST 4 PITCH WALK!?!?!?!?

    Was that too loud? Sorry…

  47. juneau_fan on August 1st, 2013 7:11 pm

    It was so bad wordpress double-posted.

  48. MrZDevotee on August 1st, 2013 7:12 pm

    Juneau-
    I dunno who “Hook” is, but he can’t be any worse than Wilhelmsen!

    (ba-dum *cymbal crash*)

  49. MrZDevotee on August 1st, 2013 7:13 pm

    So bad even WordPress was begging them to take him out…

    Wow.

  50. juneau_fan on August 1st, 2013 7:13 pm

    And now Crazy Cousin Oliver on the mound. This either going to work, or not.

  51. MrZDevotee on August 1st, 2013 7:14 pm

    Pluck me…

  52. MrZDevotee on August 1st, 2013 7:15 pm

    And Papi is on deck… (knees knocking a bit)

  53. JasonJ on August 1st, 2013 7:15 pm

    The Mariners traveling circus continues…

  54. Will on August 1st, 2013 7:15 pm

    I CAN’T BELIEVE THIS!!!

  55. Section329 on August 1st, 2013 7:15 pm

    This is getting old

  56. juneau_fan on August 1st, 2013 7:16 pm

    I’m always fascinated how relievers seem to need to clear the other pitcher’s runners off the bases, then they get serious. Let’s hope that’s the case here.

  57. MrZDevotee on August 1st, 2013 7:17 pm

    Hey Felix, having any doubts about reupping that contract?

    Thank you for not using pencil.

  58. MrZDevotee on August 1st, 2013 7:18 pm

    Juneau-
    Kinda how I always have to clear out the first glass of Scotch, then get down to some serious drinking…

  59. juneau_fan on August 1st, 2013 7:20 pm

    Bringing on a new pitcher sort of makes my theory look worrisome…

  60. argh on August 1st, 2013 7:21 pm

    Win, lose or draw…after this game, put the Bartender on a bus and call it quits. I’d rather be surprised by a closing effort from someone I don’t know than have this sickening feeling of deja vu game after game.

  61. juneau_fan on August 1st, 2013 7:23 pm

    I may have lost consciousness there.

  62. MrZDevotee on August 1st, 2013 7:23 pm

    Wow PitchFX had that clearly a strike…

    SHOULD HAVE BEEN A K

  63. MrZDevotee on August 1st, 2013 7:24 pm

    Alrighty… Had a stressful day already, I can’t do this…

    Over and out.

  64. JasonJ on August 1st, 2013 7:24 pm

    Yep. What a joke.

  65. juneau_fan on August 1st, 2013 7:26 pm

    Yeah, there’s a sick part of me just hangin’ in there to see how bad it gets.

    There’s a reason they’re the Red Sox and the Mariners are the Mariners.

  66. Section329 on August 1st, 2013 7:27 pm

    good thing Jack didn’t trade Oliver-NOT

  67. Will on August 1st, 2013 7:31 pm

    Stunning, pathetic, dishearting

  68. msfanmike on August 1st, 2013 7:31 pm

    I feel a lot older, again.

  69. nvn8vbryce on August 1st, 2013 7:34 pm

    Felix should ask to be traded if this is the best we can do after he pitches like he did tonight. This loss is embarrassing.

  70. Woodcutta on August 1st, 2013 7:37 pm

    Sure is a good thing the M’s didn’t try and improve the team before the trade deadline. Re-signing the current gritty veterans for cheap seems more and more plausible as no one else will want them (except Morales).

  71. Eastside Suds on August 1st, 2013 7:37 pm

    I feel sick. If we had a real front office, Willhelmson would be DFA’d tomorrow just to send a fucking message that this performance is never acceptable. The Bartender has been unacceptable most of the year. I am not sure if the Mariners will be able to rebound from something like this ending. Heads should roll just because.

    And, Perez has been horse shit for almost 3 weeks now as we’ll! Fuck!

  72. Breadbaker on August 1st, 2013 7:39 pm

    I have never understood why what was good for Ackley, the number two draft choice, future face o the franchise, wasn’t good enough for Wilhelmsen. He should be doing a serious tour of the PCL. Whether in a Rainiers uniform or tending bar for someone I don’t particularly care right now.

  73. argh on August 1st, 2013 7:39 pm

    It’s embarrassing that after the last 5 months they’re still trotting Wilhelmsen out there. Door. Ass. Bang. Lock.

  74. SeattleSlew on August 1st, 2013 7:42 pm

    It will be specially hard for the young guys to recover from a loss like this. They start realizing that the season is over and have no motivation to play better for the rest of the season.

  75. Eastside Suds on August 1st, 2013 7:43 pm

    I for one would like The King to explode just once and show some anger and frustration at this bull shit. No one would chastise him for doing so. This team needs a serious shakeup in the psyche!!!!

    And Robby Thompson has been a joke!

  76. Will on August 1st, 2013 7:43 pm

    I’m going to be honest guys, I tried to convince myself that this team had a chance in the playoff race and everything. We were only 7.5 games back of the second wild card so I tried to sell myself on the fact that we had a chance, and I’ve been watching every game in hopes that we could make that run this year. But in a way I’m kind of appreciative of tonight’s results because it brought me back to reality. I realized tonight that this team is not going anywhere this year, even though it took me a while to figure that out.

  77. SeattleDan on August 1st, 2013 7:46 pm

    Wilhelmsen and Perez need to be sent down or cut before they leave Boston tonight. Hopefully that would be a message the rest of the pitching staff would understand.

  78. Sports on a Shtick on August 1st, 2013 7:46 pm

    Fuck this team.

  79. Eastside Suds on August 1st, 2013 7:48 pm

    Even if one doesn’t believe in a wild-card run, at least it has been (as of the past 30 days) an acceptable wish for this team to A) be competitive. B) continue to improve….and C) reach .500

    Not sure any of these can be reached now after this loss. This may very well be devastating to this club the remainder of 2013

  80. islandan on August 1st, 2013 7:51 pm

    TW looked crappy vs Cleveland (from Row 16 behind the Ms dugout). Couldn’t throw #1 for strikes. Looked scared to throw it.
    And his intro is so OVER THE TOP, it’s a disservice to Jimi!
    He’s gotta be gone……but who else? Farqhar is nasty, but he’s a real wild one (Iggy Pop intro in 3, 2, 1…..)

  81. Westside guy on August 1st, 2013 7:58 pm

    Well now – I stopped listening at just the right time, apparently.

  82. SeattleDan on August 1st, 2013 7:58 pm

    Like a lot of you guys here, I’ve been a Mariner fan since the beginning. In my opinion, this was the worst effort put forth by the relief pitchers that I ever recall (and remember, there were a LOT of lean years). Each and every one of them should feel horrible for being in the MLB and playing like a bunch of no-talent bums. Something needs to be done this weekend, for the good of team (and fan!) morale. Felix deserves better. WE deserve better.

  83. Eastside Suds on August 1st, 2013 8:02 pm

    You know….seriously, Danny would be better because of two things. His ball moves like crazy and he misses a lot of barrels. Secondly, the kid has swagger. He is a grinder. You can see it in his body language and his bounce. I know there in no “Bulldog Quotient” Sabermetric score. But Willhelmsen looks like a whipped puppy. You can see the fear and unsteadiness in his presence. We have seen enough!

  84. danski on August 1st, 2013 8:07 pm

    I wish I didn’t love the Mariners so much :(

  85. phineasphreak on August 1st, 2013 8:43 pm

    This game made my stomach turn. I’m glad they didn’t air any shots of Felix watching from the dugout, because it would have made me as a fan feel bad about him as a player staying loyal to this fucking garbage. Excuse my language, but I am royally pissed off.

  86. JasonJ on August 1st, 2013 8:44 pm

    Am I crazy or did they show Jack Z. sitting in the stands during the 9th inning meltdown? Can’t imagine how hard that would be to watch that debacle in person.

  87. Eastside Suds on August 1st, 2013 8:47 pm

    phineasphreak…….I apologize as we’ll. I have never used vulgarity before when posting on USSMARINER. Tonight just put me over the top. And…….how classy is Felix?

  88. gag harbor on August 1st, 2013 8:51 pm

    As it is in most years, the Mariners are simply providing wins for teams wanting them more than a group of individuals that just want to put up some personal stats. In this game, Felix was the only Mariner going for the win. Everyone else was just hoping to pad their stats for their career payoff. Wilhelmson is not an MLB pitcher anymore.

  89. GhostofMarinersPast on August 1st, 2013 8:56 pm

    Wow. Wow. Wow. That was was a full-on slow motion devastating car crash. Multiple fatalities.

  90. GhostofMarinersPast on August 2nd, 2013 12:22 am

    Gag Harbor-

    No offense….but that doesn’t even come close to making any sense

  91. Westside guy on August 2nd, 2013 7:35 am

    Not that plenty of other things didn’t go wrong last night, but –

    Am I the only one who finds it weird that if a manager starts to move the wrong arm and the crew chief interprets that as which pitcher he wanted, there’s no recourse to correct it? I could understand if, say, the wrong pitcher had actually stepped onto the field of play. But just because of the manager moving his arm?

  92. gag harbor on August 2nd, 2013 8:40 am

    Ghost, none taken. Please correct me.

  93. jak924 on August 2nd, 2013 9:22 am

    Does anyone know why Wilhelmsen hasn’t been DFA since last night?

  94. r-gordon-7 on August 2nd, 2013 10:37 am

    jak924, because Jack Z is the spitting image of Curly Howard, which is sadly appropriate, given that the whole Mariner organization really wouldn’t be any worse off it actually were run by The Three Stooges…

  95. nvn8vbryce on August 2nd, 2013 10:37 am

    Jak, perhaps Jack Z is a masochist and derives pleasure from watching fans suffer so much?

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