Game 125, Mariners at Athletics

marc w · August 20, 2013 at 6:55 pm · Filed Under Mariners 

Joe Saunders vs. Sonny Gray, 7:05pm

Sonny Gray, the A’s first-rounder out of Vanderbilt a few years ago, is a short righty who’s faced skepticism about his durability and effectiveness in part because of his height. He’s shown a 95mph fastball and a solid curve. He’s been very effective thus far against lefties and righties thanks largely to his big fastball and solid control. Go lefty line-up:
1:Miller, SS
2: Franklin, 2B
3: Seager, 3B
4: Morales, DH
5: Ibanez, LF
6: Smoak, 1B
7: Morse, RF
8: Saunders, CF
9: Quintero, C
SP: Joe Saunders

The Rainiers game tonight features Taijuan Walker, new 1B Ji-Man Choi, and perfect weather in Tacoma. GO.

Comments

89 Responses to “Game 125, Mariners at Athletics”

  1. terryoftacoma on August 20th, 2013 7:16 pm
  2. Westside guy on August 20th, 2013 7:16 pm

    Morse. Ugh.

    Defense doesn’t matter, defense doesn’t matter…

  3. msfanmike on August 20th, 2013 7:19 pm

    Hopefully Jack will prove he has an ability to learn from this years roster construction mistakes. Morse did a great job turning a debatable double into an easy stand up triple.

    Morse is horrible.

  4. terryoftacoma on August 20th, 2013 7:20 pm

    Great start mr. Saunders two batter, one run. Guess the lawn could use a trim or I could go see the Rainers.

  5. msfanmike on August 20th, 2013 7:23 pm

    Saunders, J is horrible.

  6. Westside guy on August 20th, 2013 7:24 pm

    So Joe Saunders is still a Mariner, eh?

  7. mrakbaseball on August 20th, 2013 7:25 pm

    How many more mistakes does Zduriencik have to make before he learns anything?

  8. Eastside Suds on August 20th, 2013 7:26 pm

    Can someone tell me what time tonight’s contest starts? I tuned in to Root Sports and apparently they are still taking batting practice.

  9. msfanmike on August 20th, 2013 7:28 pm

    Good question, mrak.

  10. Eastside Suds on August 20th, 2013 7:29 pm

    It does seem a little strange without a backstop and an L screen

  11. Westside guy on August 20th, 2013 7:34 pm

    Hehehe

  12. Bremerton guy on August 20th, 2013 7:36 pm

    Who cares? I’ll read about it tomorrow.

  13. msfanmike on August 20th, 2013 7:40 pm

    So, why did the Mariners front office “slow-play” the GMZ extension announcement? What did they gain by waiting … a nearly Complete fan apathy?

  14. msfanmike on August 20th, 2013 7:45 pm

    The good news (which could also be viewed as bad news):

    It should not be too difficult to replace Morse’s level of production next year. It kinda sets the stage for Stefen Romero if the team looks to spend its sweaty wad of cash elsewhere.

  15. juneau_fan on August 20th, 2013 7:56 pm

    At least Blanco didn’t hit into a doubleplay.

  16. msfanmike on August 20th, 2013 7:58 pm

    Yeah … Turn that shit around, Nick!

    Nice blast.

  17. juneau_fan on August 20th, 2013 7:59 pm

    Cutting the score in half is nice.

    I will confess, the team may be doing something right. I came in from yard work, flipped the TV on, saw the score and sighed to myself, but it didn’t feel hopeless like it didn’t even last season.

  18. Eastside Suds on August 20th, 2013 8:01 pm

    Went out and mowed the lawn. It’s my therapy. I see we are back in it.

  19. djw on August 20th, 2013 8:01 pm

    This team has a worse record and a worse run differential than last year.

  20. Eastside Suds on August 20th, 2013 8:04 pm

    Easy to answer that DJW. Veteran grit, baby. Effin veteran grit!

  21. eponymous coward on August 20th, 2013 8:06 pm

    It should not be too difficult to replace Morse’s level of production next year.

    You mean like how it wasn’t that difficult to replace Ichiro and Casper Wells?

  22. juneau_fan on August 20th, 2013 8:07 pm

    Yes, djw. But they’re still more entertaining to watch than the last few years to me. What’s the difference four games going to make when you’re at the lower part of the table at the end of the season?

  23. msfanmike on August 20th, 2013 8:07 pm

    Just imagine how long the extension might have been if the teams record and run differential had actually improved since last season.

  24. djw on August 20th, 2013 8:08 pm

    I agree they’re more entertaining. I’m not convinced there’s an evidence-based reason to believe they’re more likely to come back from a 4 run deficit.

  25. msfanmike on August 20th, 2013 8:14 pm

    No, I didn’t really mean that at all. More of a theoretical statement and/or hope – I guess … But I get your point.

    I suppose its a foregone conclusion that Wedge is coming back next year, too … Unless his health dictates otherwise. For all we know, he has already been extended, too. Oh boy!

  26. eponymous coward on August 20th, 2013 8:15 pm

    What’s the difference four games going to make when you’re at the lower part of the table at the end of the season?

    Quite a lot, actually. Moving the needle from 74-88 to 90 wins is more difficult than moving the needle from 78-84 to 90 wins. You have to have more decisions go right. This team needs to get to a place where they aren’t having to replace 5-6 starting pitchers+ regulars every year from the free agent market, or end up with another bad season, if they ever want to get good.

    I watched this team in the 1980s when the pitching was bad, the team was young, and the offense was “meh, not hopeless, but not good”. Losing 8-6 is still losing, even if it’s not losing 2-0.

  27. msfanmike on August 20th, 2013 8:21 pm

    How many pitches will it take for Morse to K this time?

    Over/under: 4.5.

  28. msfanmike on August 20th, 2013 8:24 pm

    Prediction fail.

  29. Eastside Suds on August 20th, 2013 8:27 pm

    One of the glaring anomalies this season is ten walk-off losses. That is a lot and a lot of heartache. Has to dwell in those young minds in the ninth when games are in the balance.

  30. Westside guy on August 20th, 2013 8:28 pm

    Morse’s OPS for the entire season is below Michael Saunders’ – and Saunders had that really long slump in May and part of June.

    Morse probably should have quit after the first dozen games. :-D

  31. msfanmike on August 20th, 2013 8:28 pm

    Has it only been ten? It’s dwelling in my mind, too … And my mind is not young.

  32. juneau_fan on August 20th, 2013 8:32 pm

    I wasn’t saying that we shouldn’t want to see improvement in the wins. My point is that for whether I find this team enjoyable to watch this season on a day to day basis has little to do with wins/losses. There’d certainly be a joy in contending this season but that ain’t happening and four more wins won’t make it happen either.

  33. SeattleSlew on August 20th, 2013 8:41 pm

    I still don’t understand why they play little league games on national tv. Do they really get that much tv ratings? wouldn’t it make more sense to show minor league games or even high school games? I would love to see Kerry Wood pitching in HS instead of some 12 yr olds who most likely will never play pro baseball.

  34. Eastside Suds on August 20th, 2013 8:42 pm

    An addendum on the Mariners woes. This is by far the worst M’s base running team. By a long shot.

  35. The_Waco_Kid on August 20th, 2013 8:42 pm

    Abraham Almonte is all like, “I heard you were unhappy with your OF situation. Is there an opening???”

  36. Westside guy on August 20th, 2013 8:43 pm

    I would find more joy in watching this team if there were fewer Ibañez + Morse outfields. Ackley is hitting better; and, while I miss watching Ryan’s defensive wizardry, I am enjoying Miller’s overall play.

    I don’t mind watching young guys struggle if there are flashes of a brighter future.

  37. msfanmike on August 20th, 2013 8:46 pm

    Hey, look – that guys face was sticking through the “A” hole of that snappy looking outfit.

  38. The_Waco_Kid on August 20th, 2013 8:47 pm

    Ibanez + Morse = minor league outfield, at least defensively.

  39. juneau_fan on August 20th, 2013 8:55 pm

    Grit, grit, grit!

  40. msfanmike on August 20th, 2013 8:57 pm

    Juneau, you failed to mention his reference to moxee and mental toughness.

    Krueger hit the trifecta with today’s analysis of Joe Saunders.

  41. Breadbaker on August 20th, 2013 9:18 pm

    Michael Saunders looks so good at the plate these days.

  42. msfanmike on August 20th, 2013 9:21 pm

    Come on Miller … Drive the ball somewhere!

  43. msfanmike on August 20th, 2013 9:21 pm

    … Or dink it in “somewhere”.

  44. juneau_fan on August 20th, 2013 9:21 pm

    Ryan’s still on the team?

  45. juneau_fan on August 20th, 2013 9:22 pm

    Saunders looks good being at the plate.

  46. Westside guy on August 20th, 2013 9:23 pm

    Yeah! A break for us!

    Let’s make something of it now!

  47. juneau_fan on August 20th, 2013 9:25 pm

    Yes, I am currently being entertained.

  48. Eastside Suds on August 20th, 2013 9:25 pm

    Shoot. Leave Doolittle guy in!

  49. Westside guy on August 20th, 2013 9:26 pm
  50. msfanmike on August 20th, 2013 9:26 pm

    Doo-little certainly did … And for that we are thankful.

  51. Breadbaker on August 20th, 2013 9:26 pm

    I can see Thompson thinking, “you mean I can take the pitcher out before the end of the inning when he’s stinking up the joint? I didn’t know that. Thanks, Bob Melvin.”

  52. Westside guy on August 20th, 2013 9:28 pm

    NICKY BOY!

  53. juneau_fan on August 20th, 2013 9:31 pm

    I could watch Crazy Legs Miller run all day long.

  54. juneau_fan on August 20th, 2013 9:34 pm

    That had to hurt. For both of them.

  55. Westside guy on August 20th, 2013 9:34 pm

    Oh crap.

  56. Breadbaker on August 20th, 2013 9:35 pm

    Nicky finally gets out of his slump and now this. Mariners indeed.

  57. Ralph_Malph on August 20th, 2013 9:37 pm

    What happened?

  58. juneau_fan on August 20th, 2013 9:40 pm

    Morales hit a chopper up the middle and Franklin ran on contact. Play at the plate with Norris blocking with his left foot, spikes up. Franklin slid by with his right foot touching the plate before Norris could sweep tag him, but slid right into those spikes. Tore a big hole in his pants and probably hurt like hell. Norris hurt something too, which doesn’t bode well for Franklin. Hitting the proverbial brick wall and the wall crumbles too.

  59. juneau_fan on August 20th, 2013 9:41 pm

    Oh, and it’s his left knee, Ralph, right into the spikes.

    Blowers is hopeful that he’s just gone for a new pair of pants, but there was the writhing, limping, and being helped off the field.

  60. Westside guy on August 20th, 2013 9:41 pm

    Nice to see another team imploding, for once.

  61. msfanmike on August 20th, 2013 9:42 pm

    Franklin slid hard into home plate just ahead of the tag. The catchers left foot (front spike) caught nick just below the knee. Tore his pant leg and left a gash. Not sure how much blood there was, but I did see some. The catcher also twisted something from the impact of the contact (knee, ankle, hip, groin … Maybe all the above)

  62. Breadbaker on August 20th, 2013 9:44 pm

    There have been few more enjoyable innings to watch all season. Kicking the A’s in Oakland is so much fun. We had two hits before this inning.

  63. californiamariner on August 20th, 2013 9:45 pm

    Hopefully Franklin isn’t seriously hurt. Probably just hurt like hell when he slide right into the cleat of Norris.

    Nice to see another team imploding with passed balls though :)

  64. msfanmike on August 20th, 2013 9:46 pm

    Good thing, too – with Morse “hitting”

  65. juneau_fan on August 20th, 2013 9:49 pm

    Ah, the Ryan we know and love. Although it’s probably hard to hit with the impression of pine on your ass.

  66. Eastside Suds on August 20th, 2013 9:52 pm

    If Medina walks this lead off hitter after we just caught up, I’m going ballistic!

  67. juneau_fan on August 20th, 2013 9:56 pm

    Our heads explode around the nation…

  68. juneau_fan on August 20th, 2013 9:58 pm

    Bring on Little Lord Farquhar!

  69. msfanmike on August 20th, 2013 9:58 pm

    Come back east side!

  70. Eastside Suds on August 20th, 2013 10:01 pm

    Okay….breathe deep, slow the heart rate down, stop throwing things and clean up your language. Whew

  71. Breadbaker on August 20th, 2013 10:01 pm

    Hey, Billy Beane, if you want to upgrade your outfield defense, we could work out a trade for Raul.

  72. Westside guy on August 20th, 2013 10:03 pm

    Cespedes has been particularly ham-handed tonight.

  73. msfanmike on August 20th, 2013 10:03 pm

    Did Miller actually touch 2B?

  74. juneau_fan on August 20th, 2013 10:04 pm

    Live by the giant outfielder’s glove, die by it.

  75. Westside guy on August 20th, 2013 10:04 pm

    We lucked out, but – what’s with the crap baserunning again!?

  76. msfanmike on August 20th, 2013 10:06 pm

    Need. Insurance. Run(s).

  77. Eastside Suds on August 20th, 2013 10:07 pm

    I was wondering that myself Mike. I thought on the replay he missed it. Luckily the middle infielders were so befuddled by the throw to second, I don’t think either one saw it.

  78. msfanmike on August 20th, 2013 10:10 pm

    At best, the side of his foot might have grazed the back side of the bag, but I doubt the umpire would have been able to tell either way if the A’s had decided to appeal the play.

    The A’s were definitely befuddled, though. You are spot-on about that.

  79. msfanmike on August 20th, 2013 10:16 pm

    Bad place for needing stitches if your livelihood depends on running and bending. sounds like Nick is going to be out for a few/several days.

  80. Eastside Suds on August 20th, 2013 10:18 pm

    Yay!!! Good job Mariners. Never a doubt!!

  81. Westside guy on August 20th, 2013 10:20 pm

    Well, I would not be surprised if Thompson shares Wedge’s predilections regarding toughness and playing hurt – Franklin may very well be out there tomorrow, even if it impacts his ability to field or hit.

  82. msfanmike on August 20th, 2013 10:21 pm

    Truly Grit-a-licious.

  83. msfanmike on August 20th, 2013 10:27 pm

    He isn’t playing til the stitches come out. Can’t see it happening. Bad spot for stitches – just below the kneecap. I suppose if they are below the bend of the knee, he could play – but I doubt it.

    They need an infielder to cover for the next few days – or an outfielder to cover for Ackley who will cover 2B for the next few days.

    I had stitches below the kneecap when I was 12 and 14 … and 42 and probably again tomorrow. No way he can play if that is where they are.

  84. Westside guy on August 20th, 2013 10:34 pm

    Mike I’m not arguing with you – I’m just thinking about some of the bone-headed player management decisions this team’s made in the name of toughness this season. Wedge has ran guys out there who really shouldn’t have been playing before. Heck, he did it with Franklin once already! And remember Morse and the broken finger?

  85. Breadbaker on August 20th, 2013 10:37 pm

    And of course he’ll probably give us more Ryan-Miller rather than use Ackley at second, even if means benching Saunders so he can play more Raul and Morse. Because Mariners.

  86. msfanmike on August 20th, 2013 10:45 pm

    10-4 Westy. I knew what you meant.

    Nice summary, Bread.

  87. Westside guy on August 20th, 2013 10:48 pm

    I do hope I’m wrong and you’re right though, Mike.

    BTW both Divish and Drayer say he’ll be out 5-7 days, so apparently I’m being needlessly cynical.

  88. casey on August 21st, 2013 8:10 am

    post allstar game splits – small but growing sample sizes

    for M’s outfielders / dh / firstbase options / avg and OPS

    Ackley .321 .772
    Chavez .207 .475
    Ibanez .204 .583
    Morales .308 .796
    Morse .150 .457
    Saunders .272 .881
    Smoak .252 .776

  89. Westside guy on August 21st, 2013 10:31 am

    I still like Morales – hopefully Z will try to bring him back. But I suspect the most likely one Z will pursue is Raul.

    I really, really don’t want to see a repeat of this past offseason… Z, PLEASE only sign one 1B/DH-quality veteran this time!

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