Game 31, Mariners at Athletics

marc w · May 6, 2014 at 5:30 pm · Filed Under Mariners 

Roenis Elias vs. Jesse Chavez, 7:05pm

More on last night’s prospect showdown later. Tonight, it’s a meeting between two of the least likely effective starters. Chavez has been a so-so to worse reliever for years, and Elias has been a so-so starter in the minor leagues – a guy whose path to the big leagues depended on a rash of injuries to starters, their back-ups, and the depth behind those guys.

Elias “succeeded” somehow with a 15:11 K:BB ratio by limiting hard contact and home runs. In his last two starts, though, his K:BB ratio’s up to 16:5. It’s impossible to know what to make of Elias or his seeming transformation in the past ten-fifteen days: he’s a tabula rasa, and apparently most of the data we had on him wasn’t all that predictive. He’s learning on the job, and while he’ll stumble every now and then, he looks capable of infinitely more than I would’ve thought back in February. I say “infinitely” advisedly, as I tried to look up his ZiPS projection from this spring. There wasn’t one. You can only project so many players, and Anthony Fernandez was on the 40-man and all… I checked the Steamer projections, but he had all of one inning.

Chavez DID have projections, and they were awful. 0.2 WAR by ZiPS, 0.3 by Steamer. He’d previously been a control-challenged fastball/slider guy, but a shift to the cutter seemed to help him harness his stuff a bit better in 2013. Still, you wouldn’t have pegged Chavez to be the A’s best pitcher through a month plus, even with Sonny Gray’s emergence. Damn it.

1: Saunders, RF
2: Jones, CF
3: Cano, 2B
4: Hart, DH
5: Smoak, 1B
6: Seager, 3B
7: Ackley, LF
8: Zunino, C
9: Miller, SS
SP: Elias

Mariano Rivera’s book apparently had some less-than-flattering comments about Robbie Cano. First his hitting coach, then the team’s HOF closer…we’ll see what Jeter says about is erstwhile DP partner after he retires. Clearly, people didn’t care for certain aspects of Cano’s preparation/hustle/whatever, though I’m still struggling to figure out how it cost them runs/games.

Comments

232 Responses to “Game 31, Mariners at Athletics”

  1. stevemotivateir on May 6th, 2014 6:04 pm

    I wonder if we’ll ever see Seager and Zunino higher in the order? Not a big deal, I’m just curious.

    Glad Diaz isn’t the umpire for the M’s tonight.

  2. Kazinski on May 6th, 2014 6:18 pm

    I’m hoping Miller is fixed now, but its Small Sample Size Theater:
    BB% K% AVG/OBP/SLG
    Player A 16PA 12.5 % 18.8 % .308/.400/.308
    Player B 28PA 3.6 % 21.4 % .192/.250/.269
    Player C 48PA 6.3 % 20.8 % .295/.354/.682
    Player D 27PA 7.4 % 22.2 % .208/.269/.250

    I hope this table comes out. Player B and D look broken. Player A and C look like they have a pretty mouth (Arkansas grad here).

    A is Brad Miller last 7 days. B is Seager last 7.
    C is Seager last 14 days, D is Miller last 14.

    I am hoping Miller is fixed and Seager isn’t broken again.

  3. Paul B on May 6th, 2014 6:32 pm

    Glad to see Saunders in rf.

  4. HighlightsAt11 on May 6th, 2014 6:56 pm

    Last nights game blog was titled “Mariners at A’s”. The M’s won. Tonight it is “Mariners at Athletics”. I hope that does not jinx the M’s tonight.

  5. HighlightsAt11 on May 6th, 2014 6:58 pm

    When does small sample size become not so small sample size?

    Go Blazers.

  6. HighlightsAt11 on May 6th, 2014 7:01 pm

    Kaz – So do Razorbacks prefer “pretty mouth” vs “ugly lips”?

  7. Kazinski on May 6th, 2014 7:10 pm

    Generally anything available has a pretty mouth, but I grew up in the wine country in Napa, so sometimes standards about availability differ.

  8. Paul B on May 6th, 2014 7:11 pm

    Having lefties in a row at the top of the order isn’t bad. If you need to PH, then defense probably isn’t the major concern.

  9. Paul B on May 6th, 2014 7:13 pm

    Just realized I commented on something I think I read on LL.

    Thag was a good catch, unfortunately.

  10. californiamariner on May 6th, 2014 7:13 pm

    Damn you Gentry

  11. Paul B on May 6th, 2014 7:14 pm

    The defense taketh and then giveth.

  12. californiamariner on May 6th, 2014 7:15 pm

    Mariners offense!!

    Nice hitting there Smoak.

  13. californiamariner on May 6th, 2014 7:23 pm

    That was actually bad luck for Zunino. Inning might still be going if Ackley wasn’t stealing on the pitch, because it brought the 2nd baseman into position to field the ball up the middle.

  14. Paul B on May 6th, 2014 7:24 pm

    Or if Hart’s hit had gone off the wall.

  15. MrZDevotee on May 6th, 2014 7:31 pm

    Ha, Saunders gets to return the favors the A’s gave him (or not) yesterday… By catching a scorcher hit right to him. He had TWO of those he hit yesterday.

  16. Paul B on May 6th, 2014 7:47 pm

    Not a good throw by Jones.

  17. MrZDevotee on May 6th, 2014 7:48 pm

    Damn, too bad about the wild pitch… Too bad about the not really a step late throw by Cano…

  18. californiamariner on May 6th, 2014 7:50 pm

    Elias is all over the place tonight. Most of the outs have been well hit. Better figure it out real soon or that bullpen is going to be up early the night before a doubleheader.

  19. Paul B on May 6th, 2014 7:54 pm

    They get to bring up an extra player for the double header. SP, no doubt, which I guesx won’t give the bullpen a break.

  20. californiamariner on May 6th, 2014 7:55 pm

    The Mariano Rivera comments were pretty surprising. For those that missed it, he said he’d rather have Pedroia than Cano on his team. Whatever, we still have this:

    http://m.mlb.com/video/v6723731/nyysea-ichiros-walkoff-homer-wins-it-in-the-ninth

  21. MrZDevotee on May 6th, 2014 7:56 pm

    We need more folks to talk crap about Cano… 2 hits, advancing on a fly ball to center field, and a great stop on defense so far.

    Can’t wait till he starts hustling. And finds some fire and passion…

  22. Westside guy on May 6th, 2014 7:59 pm

    Ooh, that was a really nice bang-bang catch by Moss.

  23. MrZDevotee on May 6th, 2014 8:00 pm

    Westy-
    I’m not sure Moss knows what happened there. He just realized he had a ball in his glove and ran it to first base… (laugh)

  24. californiamariner on May 6th, 2014 8:01 pm

    I’m probably imagining it or just wanting to see it, but Cano does seem a little extra motivated tonight after those comments. In reality, he’s just really good and probably been in position to make a couple nice “hustle” plays that don’t always happen. But, the former story line is much more entertaining.

  25. Westside guy on May 6th, 2014 8:01 pm

    For what it’s worth, I suspect the comments from Rivera were colored by the fact Cano made no bones about being willing to leave the Yankees.

  26. Section329 on May 6th, 2014 8:02 pm

    I was at that game- place went nuts.
    Re Mo’s comments-a bit disappointed with him.

  27. Paul B on May 6th, 2014 8:03 pm

    Well, Pedroia is a 5 to 6 WAR player, and Cano is a 5 to 8 WAR player.

    Hard to go wrong with one of those.

  28. californiamariner on May 6th, 2014 8:06 pm

    They are both great players, but I don’t think that is the point. Cano was his teammate for how long? And the other guy has played all these years on the other side of one of the biggest rivalries in sports. I just don’t see the point in going out of your way to make that comment. Did you really have to say that? It sounds like an attempt at selling books.

  29. californiamariner on May 6th, 2014 8:20 pm

    I really wish this thing where the managers come out to stall to think about challenging would stop. Lloyd’s been quick tonight at least.

  30. tubbabubba22 on May 6th, 2014 8:21 pm

    California Mariner – I am so glad you posted this. One of my FAVORITE Mariner memories ever.

    The Mariano Rivera comments were pretty surprising. For those that missed it, he said he’d rather have Pedroia than Cano on his team. Whatever, we still have this:
    http://m.mlb.com/video/v6723731/nyysea-ichiros-walkoff-homer-wins-it-in-the-ninth

  31. Section329 on May 6th, 2014 8:27 pm

    Darn Sergio

  32. Westside guy on May 6th, 2014 8:28 pm

    Saunders almost bagged hisself a pitcher tonight.

    And I’m not sure who Miller was throwing to there.

  33. Longgeorge1 on May 6th, 2014 8:30 pm

    Calmar –make them throw a flag or beanbag within 10 secs from dugout. If you want to come out to discuss play OK but then you can not challenge the call

  34. msfanmike on May 6th, 2014 8:30 pm

    Miller was throwing to the second cut-off man.

  35. MrZDevotee on May 6th, 2014 8:44 pm

    California-
    I agree about the manager stall… It’d be just as effective to have the manager stay in the dugout, and have either the pitcher not take the mound for the defense to review it, or the batter not get in the box, for the offense to watch the review… And they have 30 seconds or so, or the ump will tell the players to play. And THEN, if the manager comes out of the dugout, it should be an automatic challenge.

  36. msfanmike on May 6th, 2014 8:56 pm

    Man, that play by Ackley almost cost us a run. If Moss didn’t bobble the relay, Ackley would have been out before Seager crossed the plate. I disagree with Blowers … Not a good play. A lucky outcome more than anything.

  37. bigred on May 6th, 2014 8:58 pm

    Brad Miller is starting to look like Brendan Ryan minus the glove.

  38. Westside guy on May 6th, 2014 9:02 pm

    If he keeps it up we might need to stop calling him “Crazy Legs” and start calling him Brad “Knoblauch” Miller.

    Oh man, Cespedes.

  39. msfanmike on May 6th, 2014 9:07 pm

    If the org didn’t need a SS so badly, I think Miller might have already been made into a CF’er. It will be interesting to see what happens if Taylor forces the issue and is brought up. Or even Noriega. Supposedly the best glove in the system, and he has been mashing AAA pitching (like he has never mashed before) in a 15-20 game sample size.

  40. msfanmike on May 6th, 2014 9:08 pm

    And no, I didn’t forget about Franklin. He is going to be a pretty good 2B for someone someday.

  41. msfanmike on May 6th, 2014 9:10 pm

    Saunders is owed a couple bloop hits sometime soon … Damn you BABIP Gods.

    Not with swings like that, though. He just gives up on the lefty breaking ball sometimes. Or just doesn’t read it correctly … And then gives up mid-swing.

  42. Westside guy on May 6th, 2014 9:11 pm

    There goes Saunders hitting streak… I wonder if McLendon will bench him tomorrow?

  43. bigred on May 6th, 2014 9:13 pm

    Well Miller is hitting worse than Almonte, so maybe it’s time to try something else.

  44. G-Man on May 6th, 2014 9:14 pm

    I just tuned in last inning, and thought it was funny to bring in a LOOGY to face Miller. But when the manager conveniently slots 4 LHB’s in a row, it begs for it, doesn’t it? Thanks, Lloyd.

  45. Westside guy on May 6th, 2014 9:15 pm

    Doolittle just made the top of our order look pretty silly.

  46. Longgeorge1 on May 6th, 2014 9:26 pm

    Smallball sucks – only because we can’t do it

  47. msfanmike on May 6th, 2014 9:27 pm

    Good job Leone. Need some runs, boys!!!

  48. Longgeorge1 on May 6th, 2014 9:28 pm

    Farq and Robin Hood plz

  49. californiamariner on May 6th, 2014 9:34 pm

    More runs please!

  50. juneau_fan on May 6th, 2014 9:35 pm

    Yeah, this does have the bad feeling of losing in the 9th.

  51. juneau_fan on May 6th, 2014 9:45 pm

    ONE MORE OUT.

  52. MrZDevotee on May 6th, 2014 9:48 pm

    No… NO Juneau… It DOES NOT HAVE THAT FEELING and I will keep saying it until it’s true! It DOES NOT HAVE THAT FEELING… It DOES NOT HAVE THAT FEELING… (I give up… I hate the 9th inning)

  53. MrZDevotee on May 6th, 2014 9:50 pm

    Ut-oh, the local librarian is pinch running… Uh, I mean, Sogard.

  54. juneau_fan on May 6th, 2014 9:51 pm

    Looks more high school chemistry teacher to me…

    Did they say why the team’s actual closer isn’t closing?

  55. Kazinski on May 6th, 2014 9:52 pm

    All you Miller haters are idiots. Lets try another comparison:

    BB% K% AVG/OBP/SLG
    Player A 7.2 % 15.5 % .265/.318/.418
    Player B 3.8 % 27.4 % .192/.238/.323

    Player A is Brad Miller in 335 PA last year. Player B is Brad Miller in 106 PA this year. And we will leave the UZR out of it because it has Miller is being significantly better this year than last, but even I don’t believe it.

    106 plate appearances taken at random don’t mean shit. Especially compared to 335 just last season.

  56. Section329 on May 6th, 2014 9:52 pm

    Ooh…..

  57. MrZDevotee on May 6th, 2014 9:53 pm

    That pitch had “send me back to AAA” written all over it… (sigh) Really? On a 1-2 count, groove one right down the middle of the plate…?

  58. juneau_fan on May 6th, 2014 9:53 pm

    Crap, I’m that out of it. It’s still the freakin’ 8th inning!

    Four out save coming up?

  59. Longgeorge1 on May 6th, 2014 9:54 pm

    Maybe our pen will take the suspense out of the 9th

  60. juneau_fan on May 6th, 2014 9:55 pm

    Uh, no.

  61. californiamariner on May 6th, 2014 9:58 pm

    Great work Furbush. Even though I don’t know where Danny Farquhar is.

  62. Longgeorge1 on May 6th, 2014 9:59 pm

    I miss the old M’s where I could sleep through the last four innings (NOT)

  63. MrZDevotee on May 6th, 2014 10:00 pm

    Kaz-
    Why can’t we add them all together…

    441 PA
    6.3%/18%/.246/.286/.394…

    Those are his numbers as a Major Leaguer… Not pick and choose arbitrary pieces of two non-complete years… He’s halfway to us knowing anything about him (1000 PA’s for an arbitary number)… The idiot remains to be seen…

  64. Longgeorge1 on May 6th, 2014 10:00 pm

    Doubleheader tomorrow could be affecting some of tonight’s strategy

  65. Longgeorge1 on May 6th, 2014 10:02 pm

    Let’s steal a run here!

  66. bigred on May 6th, 2014 10:02 pm

    Kazinski

    So Miller walks half as much as last year, strikes out twice as much as last year, and is at the bottom of the league in wOBA and wRC+ and you’re making an argument that he’s better.

    I’m hoping that was just sarcasm that I didn’t pick up on. Miller is not hitting well this year. Small sample size okay, but I’d say similar sample size to Almonte, and Almonte got sent down.

  67. Section329 on May 6th, 2014 10:02 pm

    Wahoo!

  68. Westside guy on May 6th, 2014 10:03 pm

    Another couple of runs would sure be nice, Condor.

  69. Longgeorge1 on May 6th, 2014 10:03 pm

    Let’s steal two – Smallball sucks unless we do it!

  70. MrZDevotee on May 6th, 2014 10:03 pm

    That was convenient, thank you Oakland A’s!

  71. californiamariner on May 6th, 2014 10:04 pm

    Small ball!

  72. Westside guy on May 6th, 2014 10:04 pm

    Saunders may be the only Mariner who knows how to bunt.

  73. Kazinski on May 6th, 2014 10:05 pm

    Hard to steal when you are on 3rd, or 2nd with a man in front of you.

  74. Westside guy on May 6th, 2014 10:05 pm

    Why did Jones swing at THAT?

  75. MrZDevotee on May 6th, 2014 10:06 pm

    Since they heard what Mariano wrote they’re gonna let Robbie mosey on down to first base intentionally… Wouldn’t want him to embarrass himself by not caring or hustling…

  76. Longgeorge1 on May 6th, 2014 10:07 pm

    Steal a run not a base KAZ

  77. MrZDevotee on May 6th, 2014 10:08 pm

    That’s a HUGE run… Nice hustle old man with the dueling bad legs…

  78. Longgeorge1 on May 6th, 2014 10:08 pm

    Well we stole one!

  79. Kazinski on May 6th, 2014 10:08 pm

    And Miller cashes in his BB.

  80. absolutsyd on May 6th, 2014 10:09 pm

    Man, liking Hart more and more. Terrible hit but awesome running! Nice partial breakup by that slacker Cano as well!

  81. msfanmike on May 6th, 2014 10:10 pm

    Sweet! Good job Smoak!!

  82. MrZDevotee on May 6th, 2014 10:11 pm

    Oh man, now it’s not a save situation… Do we just send Charlie back out there? This could be great with the doubleheader tomorrow…

  83. Longgeorge1 on May 6th, 2014 10:11 pm

    3 runs, 1 hit I like it

  84. Westside guy on May 6th, 2014 10:11 pm

    Yeah!

  85. californiamariner on May 6th, 2014 10:12 pm

    Smoak bomb

  86. MrZDevotee on May 6th, 2014 10:12 pm

    Yes! Nice job… Now Melvin has to use ANOTHER pitcher… And we DON’T.

    Lovin’ it.

  87. nvn8vbryce on May 6th, 2014 10:13 pm

    A’s bullpen having a Mariners Meltdown?

  88. Longgeorge1 on May 6th, 2014 10:13 pm

    We burned their closer and we might save ours

  89. Grayfox3d on May 6th, 2014 10:13 pm

    Let’s save some for tomorrow boys!

    Great job though, stick it to those pesky A’s!

  90. MrZDevotee on May 6th, 2014 10:14 pm

    Don’t wanna do the unhatched chicken counting thing… But we got Felix going tomorrow in one game… And a fresh bullpen if Charlie can close this out.

  91. Kazinski on May 6th, 2014 10:14 pm

    “Steal a run not a base KAZ”

    I thought you were referring to Millers 2 stolen bases the other night.

    But I think you were shooting too low at just stealing 2 runs. 4? Ok 5. Maybe 6 sounds good.

  92. Longgeorge1 on May 6th, 2014 10:14 pm

    Who starts the bottom of the inning?

  93. Longgeorge1 on May 6th, 2014 10:16 pm

    5 runs and I still don’t believe

  94. Grayfox3d on May 6th, 2014 10:16 pm

    Does anyone know Coco Crisps line against the Mariners since he’s been with the A’s?

    Seems to me like he is always on base.

  95. Westside guy on May 6th, 2014 10:16 pm

    A five run lead… I’m surprised Mac isn’t bringing in Farquhar.

  96. MrZDevotee on May 6th, 2014 10:17 pm

    Okay, Bartender’s coming in it looks like… But still, those runs are huge heading into tomorrow… And A’s used 4 relievers…

    Charlie threw 1/3 inning so he can be situational tomorrow…

  97. californiamariner on May 6th, 2014 10:18 pm

    Westy, you took the words out of my mouth. I guess that is good? I still can’t figure out what he thinks Farquhar is.

  98. WalterNeff on May 6th, 2014 10:18 pm

    Third place!!

  99. MrZDevotee on May 6th, 2014 10:20 pm

    And! Mathematically we can tie the A’s in the AL West standings with 2 wins tomorrow…

    Dreams are the spice of life…

  100. MrZDevotee on May 6th, 2014 10:23 pm

    12 runs in two games off the AL leading pitching staff… (Thank God we’re not still playing tough teams like the Astros and Marlins…)

    Has anyone else noticed the A’s and Mariners both have a habit of not playing very well at home?

  101. californiamariner on May 6th, 2014 10:23 pm

    A winning record in May! Living the dream.

    A sweep would put the M’s with the best winning % in the division! I’d be satisfied with a split tomorrow though.

  102. Longgeorge1 on May 6th, 2014 10:23 pm

    Meaningful baseball all the way into May! (snark)

  103. MrZDevotee on May 6th, 2014 10:24 pm

    2 outs, bottom of the ninth, 5 run lead, there’s not reason to throw a SINGLE BALL to that hitter, much less walk him.

  104. MrZDevotee on May 6th, 2014 10:27 pm

    Fist pump!

    Let’s get ‘em tomorrow… At least 1… Let’s win the Felix game, and anything more is icing…

  105. Westside guy on May 6th, 2014 10:28 pm

    Phew! I thought for a minute I was gonna need to ask the Bartender for a good strong drink.

  106. Longgeorge1 on May 6th, 2014 10:29 pm

    Farq and Fernando good to go tomorrow

  107. MrZDevotee on May 6th, 2014 10:31 pm

    Longgeorge-
    Don’t forget Medina!!! (shudder…) *laugh*

  108. Longgeorge1 on May 6th, 2014 10:31 pm

    arggh!

  109. WalterNeff on May 6th, 2014 10:32 pm

    2nd place, my friends

  110. MrZDevotee on May 6th, 2014 10:33 pm

    Uh, kids we’re now officially in 2nd place in the West… By .001 over Texas…

    We’re also currently the #2 Wildcard Team… (too early?)

    Toast! (Nod to Walter for the same thought…)

  111. Westside guy on May 6th, 2014 10:36 pm

    Man, this team is just ludicrously streaky.

  112. absolutsyd on May 6th, 2014 10:38 pm

    So the last two loses have been the last two games Felix started. Can we please freaking end that tomorrow???

  113. MrZDevotee on May 6th, 2014 10:40 pm

    AND… We have the 5th best run differential in the AL suddenly… Seriously. WTF? This roadtrip is nothing like I expected. Do we have to come home?

  114. californiamariner on May 6th, 2014 10:41 pm

    This team is 13-9, not counting 9 games against the Marlins/Astros. Makes sense.

    And they’ve won 9 out of the last 11. The 2 losses? The 2 games Felix started. Makes more sense.

    4th best run differential in the AL!

  115. Kazinski on May 6th, 2014 10:45 pm

    As I pointed out yesterday we were 24th in the ESPN power rankings. Angels and Rangers were at 12 and 11, and now they’re looking up at us in the standings.

  116. MrZDevotee on May 6th, 2014 10:46 pm

    Cali-
    You realize with our schedule so far that means basically we’re 13-9 aganst the “top 3″ teams in the AL West and the Yankees.

  117. Kazinski on May 6th, 2014 10:51 pm

    If you add up the run differentials of every team in the AL east with a RD > 0, we’ve still have a higher RD. Of course there is something awfully weird going on with the AL east run differentials now.

  118. MrZDevotee on May 6th, 2014 11:01 pm

    Kaz-
    I noticed that, too… They’re almost exactly opposite in the standings of runs scored… The last 2 teams have the most runs scored, and the 1st place team has the least… Plus the Yankees are somehow above .500 with a huge run deficit so far.

  119. MrZDevotee on May 7th, 2014 12:42 pm

    Poor Felix-
    Has a couple of off performances and no more game threads for him?

    Happy Felix, Day.

  120. JasonJ on May 7th, 2014 12:51 pm

    Unable to watch the game, are these hard hit balls or just good placement?

  121. californiamariner on May 7th, 2014 12:56 pm

    Jason, Felix gave up some fairly hard hit balls all inning.

    Corey Hart!!!

  122. naviomelo on May 7th, 2014 1:02 pm

    Nice to see Hart chipping in!

  123. WalterNeff on May 7th, 2014 1:13 pm

    Felix getting smacked around a bit

  124. jorax on May 7th, 2014 1:33 pm

    I feel like you were starting a poem there MrZ:

    Happy Felix, Day.
    Happy Day, Felix?
    Felix Day, Happy!

  125. Sea-Dog on May 7th, 2014 1:41 pm

    damn it Miller

  126. MrZDevotee on May 7th, 2014 1:42 pm

    Just summing up the game Jorax… Happy Felix (this morning)… And it’s a day game. (oops)

    Brad Miller exhibiting some of those criticisms, I guess they can’t all bounce off his chest straight to Cano to start a double play… Everytime they say “that’s X errors for Miller” I always add one mentally for that one he lucked out on…

  127. msfanmike on May 7th, 2014 1:42 pm

    Routine DP misplay by Miller. Dude is going to be a 25+ error guy every season if he stays at SS.

  128. MrZDevotee on May 7th, 2014 1:43 pm

    Giving up runs… You don’t bat well enough to do that, Mr. Miller.

  129. MrZDevotee on May 7th, 2014 1:45 pm

    Mike-
    And the scouting report is right on Miller’s defense… He usually makes mental mistakes more than “tough plays”… That was a ‘tween hop, but that’s why you’re one of 30 guys in the world paid to play that position– because you’re supposed to make that play.

  130. MrZDevotee on May 7th, 2014 1:49 pm

    I haven’t seen Felix give up this many hard hit balls in awhile… He is pitching up a bit by his standards… Belt high-ish…

  131. JasonJ on May 7th, 2014 1:51 pm

    No K’s either…

  132. msfanmike on May 7th, 2014 1:53 pm

    Yes, a “routine” play in the Big Leagues means something different than it means anywhere else … but Miller doesn’t pass the eye test (at least my eyes) as even being an average ML caliber SS and the Oozer data is still incomplete for another 2 seasons, supposedly. At its best, UZR is one small step above being “better than nothing.” I am glad it exists, but its a flawed metric and we have a flawed defensive SS to go right along with it

  133. naviomelo on May 7th, 2014 1:53 pm

    Felix hasn’t really been *Felix* since the Miller-over-Cano’s-head game in Texas.

  134. naviomelo on May 7th, 2014 1:54 pm

    ZUNINO!!!

  135. absolutsyd on May 7th, 2014 2:05 pm

    Man, Rizzs seems a little off today. Didn’t seem to know a hit off the foul pole was a home run for a split second. Then was confused saying Seeger fielded a ball at second. Weird.

  136. msfanmike on May 7th, 2014 2:19 pm

    Didn’t see the Seager play you are referring to, but are you certain he wasn’t at 2B on a defensive shift?

  137. Westside guy on May 7th, 2014 2:19 pm

    I just tuned into the game. Felix has no strikeouts but only two walks, and Oakland only has one run. Has he looked okay?

    And I take it Miller is back to making stupid errors?

  138. msfanmike on May 7th, 2014 2:21 pm

    Miller is being Miller – and his defense has come as adverstised. He may very well become the SS of the future, but he is currently an omnipresent E6

  139. Woodcutta on May 7th, 2014 2:31 pm

    absolutsyd,

    Seager did make the play at second as the defense had shifted.

  140. Westside guy on May 7th, 2014 2:31 pm

    Nice catch, Mr. Jones!

  141. Woodcutta on May 7th, 2014 2:33 pm

    Why is Felix still in the game? Why was he even sent back out there in the 7th if he is sick?

  142. HighlightsAt11 on May 7th, 2014 2:34 pm

    Tuned in just in time for Felix’s seventh inning implosion. Hope he gets it figured out/gets well and thank goodness for the M’s ability to score 3R on only 3H.

  143. JasonJ on May 7th, 2014 2:36 pm

    He’s sick? Well that would help explain it.

  144. Woodcutta on May 7th, 2014 2:41 pm

    Felix was sick before the Houston start and has apparently lost some weight too. Hopefully he’s 100% when the M’s get Walker and Paxton back.

  145. HighlightsAt11 on May 7th, 2014 2:43 pm

    Abad is BAD (good bad for the A’s, bad bad for the M’s).

  146. G-Man on May 7th, 2014 2:43 pm

    The doubleheader is probably screwing up the pitching good – that’s why Felix pitched so deep in the game. With Ramirez starting tonight, expect a lot of pen innings.

  147. Westside guy on May 7th, 2014 2:49 pm

    Walks are good, when our guys are taking them.

  148. HighlightsAt11 on May 7th, 2014 2:50 pm

    How did Crisp strain his neck. Good sub by Mac. Got Abad out of the game anyway.

  149. HighlightsAt11 on May 7th, 2014 2:50 pm

    Nice job Romero. Hit out Cano…please.

  150. Westside guy on May 7th, 2014 2:51 pm

    I’ve watched a number of other teams’ feeds this year. Virtually all of them – excepting the Mariners, of course – include OBP when they’re showing a hitter’s stats.

  151. HighlightsAt11 on May 7th, 2014 2:51 pm

    What’s the strategy by the A’s now?

  152. HighlightsAt11 on May 7th, 2014 2:53 pm

    Much more patience at the plate, leads to more walks…finally.

  153. Westside guy on May 7th, 2014 2:53 pm

    Yeah! Nice timely hit by Cano!

  154. MrZDevotee on May 7th, 2014 2:53 pm

    I have to admit, that was kind of a lazy single to score the tying run, Robbie…

  155. JasonJ on May 7th, 2014 2:53 pm

    Way to go, Robbie. Let’s bail Felix out.

  156. HighlightsAt11 on May 7th, 2014 2:53 pm

    Robinson getting it done!

  157. Woodcutta on May 7th, 2014 2:57 pm

    Crisp hurt his neck making a catch while running into the padded wall.

  158. HighlightsAt11 on May 7th, 2014 2:57 pm

    A’s are going through their bullpen.

  159. HighlightsAt11 on May 7th, 2014 2:59 pm

    Thanks wood. Crisp has surprised me on how consistent he has performed over the years. I remember many years ago when we would laugh at his name.

  160. HighlightsAt11 on May 7th, 2014 3:00 pm

    Patience has its virtues but those first two pitches looked good for Smoak to hit.

  161. Woodcutta on May 7th, 2014 3:03 pm

    Having good plate discipline doesn’t mean letting two fastballs in the zone go by without swinging, especially when facing a pitcher that hasn’t walked a batter all year. Sometimes I wonder what the M’s hitters are actually being taught at the MLB level.

  162. HighlightsAt11 on May 7th, 2014 3:07 pm

    Farquhar gets ahead 0-, then walks the A’s worst hitter. Not a good way to leadoff the bottom of the eighth.

  163. HighlightsAt11 on May 7th, 2014 3:09 pm

    Forgot Reddick lined out already.

  164. HighlightsAt11 on May 7th, 2014 3:13 pm

    Good job Danny. Let’s see what the bottom of the M’s lineup can do.

  165. HighlightsAt11 on May 7th, 2014 3:15 pm

    I dunno about everyone else but I don’t look forward to an extra innings game with the doubleheader.

  166. HighlightsAt11 on May 7th, 2014 3:15 pm

    Kyle!

  167. HighlightsAt11 on May 7th, 2014 3:16 pm

    That was a good ball to bunt.

  168. Westside guy on May 7th, 2014 3:17 pm

    That’s why they call it the Hot Corner.

  169. HighlightsAt11 on May 7th, 2014 3:17 pm

    Hope Miller doesn’t double up Seager.

  170. Westside guy on May 7th, 2014 3:18 pm

    Hey it’s Willie Boom-Boom.

  171. HighlightsAt11 on May 7th, 2014 3:18 pm

    Willie…good sub!

  172. Westside guy on May 7th, 2014 3:19 pm

    Yeah, with Miller struggling – I can’t really complain about the substitution when the pitcher is a lefty.

  173. HighlightsAt11 on May 7th, 2014 3:19 pm

    It’s Zunino time.

  174. msfanmike on May 7th, 2014 3:20 pm

    I don’t really want to see extra innings with today being a Double-header, either … But all these guys played summer ball coming up and 3-4 double headers per week is pretty routine in the summer. Too big of a deal is being made of having one double-header. They will manage just fine.

  175. Westside guy on May 7th, 2014 3:21 pm

    Crap – is Medina pitching the ninth?

  176. msfanmike on May 7th, 2014 3:22 pm

    I changed my mind … I definitely want to see extra innings now!

  177. Sea-Dog on May 7th, 2014 3:23 pm

    The number of breaks the A’s have gotten this year is ridiculous. So many balls absolutely scorched right at players who make the catch purely off reflexes.

  178. WalterNeff on May 7th, 2014 3:25 pm

    This has walk off written all over it

  179. msfanmike on May 7th, 2014 3:30 pm

    This thing has PB/WP walk off written all over it.

  180. Westside guy on May 7th, 2014 3:31 pm

    Mike gets his wish.

  181. msfanmike on May 7th, 2014 3:34 pm

    I wish for a Saunders home run.

    Now!

  182. msfanmike on May 7th, 2014 3:35 pm

    Close enough

  183. Westside guy on May 7th, 2014 3:37 pm

    Nice steal.

  184. naviomelo on May 7th, 2014 3:37 pm

    Bunting?!

  185. Westside guy on May 7th, 2014 3:38 pm

    That was a well-executed bunt, but once Saunders was on second base I think I’d have taken the bunt off.

  186. msfanmike on May 7th, 2014 3:38 pm

    Win us a game, Corey.

  187. Westside guy on May 7th, 2014 3:39 pm

    A three run bomb would look pretty good right now.

  188. msfanmike on May 7th, 2014 3:41 pm

    They showed a stat last inning Westy – 10% better chance of scoring a (1) run from third with one out than from second with no outs.

    Just sayin …

    Or was it .75 runs expected vs .65 runs expected. Just saw it for a second, so I am not certain – except “this” is better

  189. naviomelo on May 7th, 2014 3:41 pm

    2nd 0 out to 3rd 1 out is a positive in terms of scoring at all, but a negative in terms of maximizing runs… 1st 0 out to 2nd 1 out is a negative in both cases.

  190. msfanmike on May 7th, 2014 3:42 pm

    Well, it was until “that.”

    No bueno, Corey … No bueno.

  191. msfanmike on May 7th, 2014 3:44 pm

    Thanks Nav … You got it.

  192. Westside guy on May 7th, 2014 3:46 pm

    That’s kind of interesting, actually. Thanks – I didn’t get to see that.

    Were they quoting “The Book”? Or did they get that elsewhere?

  193. Westside guy on May 7th, 2014 3:47 pm

    YEAH!!

  194. msfanmike on May 7th, 2014 3:47 pm

    Woot!!!!

  195. naviomelo on May 7th, 2014 3:48 pm

    HAHA

  196. msfanmike on May 7th, 2014 3:49 pm

    Oakland is down a player (crisp) and a reliever for game two. Pour it on when you can boys … Pour it on when you can.

  197. msfanmike on May 7th, 2014 3:50 pm

    Boss!

  198. msfanmike on May 7th, 2014 3:51 pm

    Capsea patent pending

  199. Westside guy on May 7th, 2014 3:52 pm

    It’s been nice to see the team take Felix off the hook a couple times this year. He’s done so much for the team, he deserves some payback.

  200. msfanmike on May 7th, 2014 3:55 pm

    Come on Rodney – be good!

  201. Sea-Dog on May 7th, 2014 3:57 pm

    That’s a lot of booing from fans of a team that is in first place and has won the last couple division titles.

  202. californiamariner on May 7th, 2014 3:57 pm

    Mariners! Let’s take first place boys!

  203. MrZDevotee on May 7th, 2014 3:57 pm

    Wow. Mr. Saunders, maybe right field is more your speed? Dammit…

    Get the 3rd out please. Pretty please.

  204. msfanmike on May 7th, 2014 3:58 pm

    Classic case of premature enunciation by Sims.

  205. matthew on May 7th, 2014 3:59 pm

    Only thing that would have made that worse was Sims saying Gutierrez in that sentence. Ugh.

  206. JasonJ on May 7th, 2014 4:00 pm

    Yes! Nice job boys!

  207. MrZDevotee on May 7th, 2014 4:01 pm

    Did Blowers just say Rodney had thrown a lot of pitches…? “10 pitches… 8 strikes…”

    Um, I think he’ll be okay…

    35 minutes, let’s do it again, boy! Please be on your game Erasmo… Pretty please.

  208. msfanmike on May 7th, 2014 4:01 pm

    Time to get some gravy …….. Sweep ‘em!!!

  209. Westside guy on May 7th, 2014 4:01 pm

    So what did I miss – what’d Saunders do?

  210. naviomelo on May 7th, 2014 4:01 pm

    I know we’re not really supposed to make uneducated comments like this, but after falling behind in this game, it felt exactly like the kind of game we would have lost in seasons past.

    Also, don’t look now, but Rodney’s K/9, BB/9, ERA, FIP, and xFIP are now all better than they were last year.

    Go M’s!!! 1 back!!

  211. MrZDevotee on May 7th, 2014 4:02 pm

    Westy-
    Started in, stopped, went back, ball went over his head to the fence for a double…

  212. jak924 on May 7th, 2014 4:02 pm

    Can we get rid of Dave Sims, now? The man is just an embarrassment as an announcer. He simply cannot judge anything hit into the outfield.

  213. Westside guy on May 7th, 2014 4:05 pm

    Saunders “Almonte’d” it, in other words. :-P

  214. Typical Idiot Fan on May 7th, 2014 4:05 pm

    Can we get rid of Dave Sims, now? The man is just an embarrassment as an announcer. He simply cannot judge anything hit into the outfield.

    Dave Sims hate should be an autoban offense.

  215. Sowulo on May 7th, 2014 4:10 pm

    David Sims is a lot better than Niehaus was his last 5 years or so.

    Sims is in his 7th year with the M’s. I and others like him. Obviously the team likes him. For those of you who don’t, really, you’ve been whining for 7 years. Buy a clue. He’s not going anywhere. Get over it already.

  216. Westside guy on May 7th, 2014 4:12 pm

    I actually like Dave Sims a lot. He and Blowers are a heck of a lot better than most of the TV teams I’ve seen.

    He’s not Neihaus, but that’s a very high bar.

  217. WalterNeff on May 7th, 2014 4:15 pm

    I like Dave Sims – he’s an enthusiast, a personality trait I admire.

  218. Westside guy on May 7th, 2014 4:16 pm

    Man, a couple days ago I was listening to the Oakland feed. Their play by play guy was okay, but they had some ex-scout color guy named “Shooty” or “Skooty” or something like that. He was just absurdly awful. It was painful to listen to.

  219. JasonJ on May 7th, 2014 4:18 pm

    Yeah I heard that guy for Oakland and it was as if they pulled some guy out of the bleachers to do color commentary….it was brutal to listen to.

  220. msfanmike on May 7th, 2014 4:21 pm

    Saunders misjudged a ball in the sun. A ball hit a long way by a little dude. It wasn’t a complete Almonte. Definitely not a full Monty IMO. Just a ball in a bad spot

  221. msfanmike on May 7th, 2014 4:23 pm

    I like Sims, he just made a mistake. Similar to the one Saunders made.

    I don’t understand the Sims dislike myself, either. He has some extremely high high quality calls.

  222. Sowulo on May 7th, 2014 4:31 pm

    Ok. Time for the 2nd game. I hope the M’s can chase Pomeranz early. I would really enjoy a laugher in the nightcap.

  223. Westside guy on May 7th, 2014 4:31 pm

    So Saunders is in center for game two, with Romero in right and Cole in left. Willie Boom Boom is our second baseman – Cano is DHing.

  224. msfanmike on May 7th, 2014 4:33 pm

    And don’t give us a new game thread … This one is working just fine.

  225. MrZDevotee on May 7th, 2014 4:36 pm

    Count me in the “I like Sims” boat… Rizz is WAY worse at calling popups in the outfield like they just left the stadium… Drives me nuts. “THAT BALL WILL… WILL… Be caught in short left by the SS…”

    (And like someone else mentioned… Bless his heart, he’s a God to me, but Niehaus was awful his last couple years at judging flyballs…)

  226. msfanmike on May 7th, 2014 4:44 pm

    Can someone who follows the Rainiers closely please tell me what is going on with Gabriel Noriega. Can he maybe be “something”. Also, what’s up with Julio Morban. He hasn’t played in a while, but there is no injury report. Just a “re-assigned to new level” statement on his stat page.

    Thank you.

  227. MrZDevotee on May 7th, 2014 5:15 pm

    Mike-
    Morban’s recovery has slowed down from his broken leg and he got sent back to “extended Spring Training” last week for more rehab…

    (Don’t know about Noriega)

  228. msfanmike on May 7th, 2014 5:25 pm

    Copy. Thanks, Z

  229. Westside guy on May 7th, 2014 5:27 pm

    Oh brother.

  230. msfanmike on May 7th, 2014 5:28 pm

    LF had a long way to go, but he’s gotta take charge on that ball.

  231. msfanmike on May 7th, 2014 5:29 pm

    I am down on Millers D, but I don’t blame him for that wind aided no mans land ball. It’s just one run. Let it go and get it back.

  232. HighlightsAt11 on May 7th, 2014 5:34 pm

    FYI….there is now a thread for the second game.

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