Game 96, Mariners at Angels

marc w · July 18, 2014 at 5:30 pm · Filed Under Mariners 

Hisashi Iwakuma vs. Jered Weaver, 7:05pm

Ah, the All-Star Break. I know how much fans hate the interruption, the break in the routine of the 162-game schedule, but I’ve grown to really love it. Players talk about it, adoringly, as a chance to rest from the relentless grind of games, hotels and flights. It seems strange that a few days off could do so much, but then they’re the ones who don’t get a weekend for about nine months and I’m the one who just took a several-week vacation. The reasons a humble baseball blogger loves the break, then, are different. But, as is often the case, Jeff’s already pointed it out and summed it up perfectly. For me, the break is a respite from feeling like a fraud.

We look at numbers, we analyze pitch fx and we scour minor league box scores not out of some obsessive desire to know everything, but because at the macro level, they can inform us about the future. That minor league numbers, properly translated, tell us something about MLB success has been demonstrated many, many times, but that can’t doesn’t help when looking through the list of failed M’s prospects who hit in AA/AAA. It feels good to notice platoon splits in Jeff Samardzija’s batted ball profile, but you wonder about its probative value when he induces a flurry of grounders from the M’s lefty-dominated line-up. These macro- and micro-failures happen *all the damn time* and while it’s nice to understand that one game doesn’t change the pattern, or that the pattern that accurately describe the population may not work for every individual within it, they don’t always make it feel better. You know what does, though? Schadenfreude.

Jeff mentioned that the M’s still seem to be believers in Justin Smoak’s long-term potential, even though he’s no longer a long-term piece.* That MLB vets make similar errors – sometimes even bigger ones – actually does dull the pain. Along with booze-fueled All-Star Break evenings at home. The point of all this navel-gazing and self-flagellation (navel-flagellating?) is this: how bad did MLB whiff on Hisashi Iwakuma? Billy Beane is rightfully lauded for his accomplishments, but it’s not like his record’s spotless. Still, winning the rights to Iwakuma and then not getting a deal done? How about the next year when basically any team could’ve had him, but he came to Seattle at a yearly cost of $1.5m, or just about half what Willie Bloomquist will get this year, or about what John Buck and Stefen Romero cost.

It’s easy to see why, to apply the lessons we’ve learned and say confidently that you simply don’t sign a pitcher coming off of arm soreness. You can’t really *fault* MLB for it, but it’s nice that there’s egg on the faces of people much smarter about this stuff than I am. Can Iwakuma adapt to the MLB schedule and succeed? 2013 showed conclusively that he could. How will he deal with age and its attendant velocity loss? The answer this year is, “By getting better.” 2014 is shaping up as Iwakuma’s best on a rate basis; he may not hit the innings total he put up last year, but when he’s out there, he’s been astonishing. Masahiro Tanaka’s splitter got deserved praise when he was healthy, and his stuff really was a tick better than Hisashi’s, but Iwakuma is a poor man’s Tanaka only in the most literal sense – he’s paid far less.

This year, Iwakuma’s posted an almost invisible walk rate, and he’s done it by throwing more balls.** By pitch fx, he’s thrown less than 50% of his pitches in the zone, but he’s pitched from ahead in the count far more than the league average. How? Because Iwakuma’s first strike percentage is exceptional – by Fangraphs, he’s 5th in baseball in this metric. From there, his options open up. That first strike allows him to expan the hitter’s zone, which he can do both through fastball command and through his main weapon, his elite splitter. Pitching ahead means hitters are more likely to swing at balls, and his splitter means that when they do, they’re more likely to hit grounders. This gets us to another hidden reason for Iwakuma’s success – his BABIP. As you know, pitcher BABIP varies, and tends to regress to league-wide averages. There are exceptions, of course – guys like knuckleballers, and many lefthanders seem immune, for a number of reasons. Rany Jazayerli talked about one of them in this great Grantland piece on Mark Buehrle the other day. But Iwakuma shouldn’t be an exception. He’s a righty, of course, and his BABIP success isn’t the result of getting fly outs (fly balls are converted into outs more often than grounders) like Jarrod Washburn or current Mariner Chris Young. How can a righty ground baller run a career BABIP of .268 thus far? Because hitters are putting pitcher’s pitches in play. Over a third of Iwakuma’s grounders have come on balls. Batters’ BABIP when they swing at balls is awful. Iwakuma gets ahead of hitters and then gives them the choice of swinging over the splitter or tapping it gently to Kyle Seager.

Lloyd McClendon was asked on the radio (probably Matt Pitman on the pre-game show) what made Iwakuma so effective, and the first answer he gave was fastball command. At the time, I thought the answer was clearly, *clearly* his 70-grade split and not the 50-FB, but the more you look at it, the more you see what McClendon is getting at. Batters have swung at his splitter a lot, and they don’t have a lot to show for it. They don’t WANT to swing at it, but if they’re behind in the count, they kind of have to. Iwakuma’s fastball, which he throws on around 65% of first-pitches, allows the rest of his arsenal to play up. It’s not just Iwakuma. Look at this list of the pitchers with the *lowest* zone% in baseball, and while there are the occasional control-challenged projects, it’s peppered with the best pitchers in the game. There’s Felix, Sonny Gray, Tanaka, the surprising Tyson Ross. For some of them, the key is pure stuff – Ross’s slider and Yu Darvish’s…everything allow them to get outs on balls. Tanaka/Felix/Iwakuma and Dallas Keuchel, they’re relying on getting ahead first, and then allowing batters to get themselves out.***

Hisashi Iwakuma is awesome.

1: Chavez, RF
2: Jones, CF
3: Cano, 2B
4: Seager, 3B
5: Morrison, DH
6: Smoak, 1B
7: Ackley, LF
8: Miller, SS
9: Zunino, C
SP: Iwakuma

* Justin Smoak’s contract’s up after this year. He has a team option for 2015 that’s pretty cheap, but you’d have to imagine that people above McClendon’s pay grade are looking at that $150,000 buy-out longingly. Smoak’s option would’ve become guaranteed if he had 525 PAs this season. That month-long rehab stint is going to make that all but impossible to hit.

** I mentioned this regarding James Paxton once, but here again we have data sources that disagree. I’m picking one that I think is the best and that happens to fit the argument I’m making. I hate it when people do this without owning up to it, so I’m owning up to it. You could argue that he’s throwing more strikes, as BIS and Statcorner thinks he is. All of these sources have their fans, and you could certainly argue for one over another, but just FYI, I’m going with pitch fx here. To make matters worse, I’ve used the BIS measure for first-strikes. I shouldn’t mix up the sources, but Fangraphs doesn’t have a pitch fx-based metric for that. Caution! Or hey, it’s a baseball post, yay!

*** Yet more full disclosure – Felix and Ross are running suprising BABIP numbers this year, and both have very high GB rates, but neither put up great BABIPs before, and it’s not like they’ve really changed their approach. Keuchel fits this theory *perfectly* but for the fact that his BABIP is completely average this year; I tend to think that’s because he’s pitching in front of an experiment, and not a real baseball team, but I may be making too much of the pitchers-limit-BABIP-by-letting-hitters-hit-out-of-zone-pitches thing.

Comments

175 Responses to “Game 96, Mariners at Angels”

  1. Westside guy on July 18th, 2014 6:27 pm

    Man, I hope Condor isn’t out 6-8 weeks (like some have speculated, based on his injury)! This lineup would be a lot better with him in it.

    But, in any case – Iwakuma is indeed awesome!

  2. WTF_Ms on July 18th, 2014 6:41 pm

    Westy, I hope that he gets back soon too, but let’s not have another Guti, where he’s “fragile”…and I hope that LoMo is just getting some AB’s and a rest from 1B. I’d like to see Smoak as DH more than LoMo.

  3. Paul B on July 18th, 2014 6:42 pm

    I will never understand wby anyone thought Ackley was an outfielder, when he couldn’t hit enough to play middle infield.

  4. Ralph_Malph on July 18th, 2014 6:51 pm

    I’m not addicted to Smoak, but if he and LoMo are both in the lineup, surely the better alignment is Smoak at 1B for his defense?

  5. WTF_Ms on July 18th, 2014 6:51 pm

    Paul B, he played OF in college. He only played IF occasionally before the M’s.

  6. Paul B on July 18th, 2014 6:57 pm

    But he cannot hit enough to play anywhere.

  7. Paul B on July 18th, 2014 6:58 pm

    Smoak is replacement level. He can go away any time.

  8. Paul B on July 18th, 2014 7:03 pm

    Bottom 3 Mariner position players, by WAR,

    Bloomquist, -0.4
    Smoak, -0.4
    Romero, -0.9

  9. Will on July 18th, 2014 7:15 pm

    Isn’t Smoak a free agent after next year?

  10. Westside guy on July 18th, 2014 7:21 pm

    Hamilton and Pujols don’t appear to be sucking anymore…

  11. Westside guy on July 18th, 2014 7:25 pm

    Smoak has a 150K buyout for next season, actually.

    I wonder why though? That seems weird.

  12. Eastside Suds on July 18th, 2014 7:32 pm

    Smoak on the warning track. You don’t say.

  13. Westside guy on July 18th, 2014 7:33 pm

    He gave it all he had, Eastside.

  14. msfanmike on July 18th, 2014 7:35 pm

    And after that buyout is executed, Smoak will probably be looking for a minor league deal to sign – with someone – during the next offseason. I doubt he gets one major league contract offer as a FA. And if he does, it certainly won’t be for the $3.75m deal he currently has with the M’s if he reaches the AB threshold. No freaking way.

  15. Eastside Suds on July 18th, 2014 7:36 pm

    Why yes he did. And its all regression from here on out.

  16. Westside guy on July 18th, 2014 7:36 pm

    He’s not going to reach 525 ABs, I expect.

  17. msfanmike on July 18th, 2014 7:37 pm

    Mariners negotiated a two year deal with Smoak during his first arbitration year, Westy. They forecasted the “suck” and so did Smoak’s agent. The contract included a small buyout clause. Relatively speaking.

  18. Westside guy on July 18th, 2014 7:37 pm

    Do any of you know if that sort of buyout is as odd as it seems to me? How often do younger guys still under team control have that sort of clause in their contract?

    Mike, I’d love to have a 150K buyout clause with my job!

  19. msfanmike on July 18th, 2014 7:42 pm

    Eastside: did you see any of the Franklin at bats during the AAA all star game? He is still “balancing” on his heels after swinging. Still looks like shit. Cant believe they can’t correct that problem.

  20. Eastside Suds on July 18th, 2014 7:45 pm

    Mike, I saw it. I can’t believe they don’t force him to change. And, he is now hitting in the .250 area in Tacoma. I think his situation it part and parcel of the development program with our organization. Oh….don’t get me started on that.

  21. msfanmike on July 18th, 2014 7:46 pm

    How often are two year contracts negotiated in year one of arbitration? Don’t know, but it’s probably a low number.

    At the time it was signed, it sounded like a mutually beneficial concession that the player just isn’t very good. A two year deal that was really a one year deal if it needed to be. And it needs TO BE.

    Yesterday!

  22. Grayfox3d on July 18th, 2014 7:46 pm

    Is Weavers fastball just nasty tonight or what? he’s thrown a ton of them and the guys are just doing nothing with them.

  23. Eastside Suds on July 18th, 2014 7:47 pm

    You can’t hit like that and stay successful, unless of course you are Ichiro. (but he’s a freak)

  24. msfanmike on July 18th, 2014 7:50 pm

    I did see that Franklin struck out three times last night … After two or three K’s in the all star game. Chris Taylor looked good, though.

    I have to believe there is NO WAY the hitting coaches haven’t been working on correcting that flaw with Franklin, regardless of how their developmental system functions. When he does correct it, he should at least then have a fighting chance to be a hitter. Right now he isn’t even giving himself a chance. Major league pitchers will just continue to bury him. And left handed is his “good side.” Hard to fathom.

  25. Grayfox3d on July 18th, 2014 7:51 pm

    Iwakuma looks good right now, lets hope the Mariners dont find a way to blow this.

  26. msfanmike on July 18th, 2014 7:54 pm

    Weaver is about 6’7″ and he has some of that “Chris Young” downward plane benefit … Especially when he drops a curve ball in from that high slot arm angle.

  27. Eastside Suds on July 18th, 2014 8:20 pm

    Smoak doubles to lead off. The Angels had us right where they wanted us.

  28. Grayfox3d on July 18th, 2014 8:22 pm

    what a sad sequence of events.

  29. Grayfox3d on July 18th, 2014 8:25 pm

    now lets watch the Angels as they show us how to score with a lead off hit.

  30. msfanmike on July 18th, 2014 8:30 pm

    Two runs should be enough.

  31. Grayfox3d on July 18th, 2014 8:51 pm

    Angels just traded for Huston Street, good for them making moves and such.

  32. Eastside Suds on July 18th, 2014 8:54 pm

    Much of our success besides extraordinary pitching and solid defense was a good RISP average prior to the break. No way is that sustainable. Mariners need a adjust/upgrade our offense quickly if they want to still be relevant into August-September. If we do nothing, then we will continue on Z’s path of rebuilding and waiting for the “kids” to mature. I guess we will know within ten days what philosophical path we are on.

  33. Will on July 18th, 2014 8:59 pm

    It would be nice if Zunino could make up for dropping that ball by hitting a dinger this inning.

  34. Westside guy on July 18th, 2014 8:59 pm

    Z can’t stand pat. There’s just no way.

  35. Westside guy on July 18th, 2014 9:03 pm

    Wow – a run!

  36. Grayfox3d on July 18th, 2014 9:04 pm

    He can’t stand pat, but I really don’t want him to just throw away the farm like what happened with Jones + for Bedard, and I have a sneaking feeling its going to end up happening for Price.

  37. Eastside Suds on July 18th, 2014 9:05 pm

    I hear ya Westy, especially in the job position he is in. But, Jack still has to get good players to come to the Northwest and get other GM’s to work with him. I heard so many anecdotes concerning GM’s so pissed off at him at this time last year because he was asking a king’s ransom for our guys. Unreasonably so. GM’s don’t forget. Let’s hope he can work some magic, or this club will surely be out of contention by mid August at the latest.

  38. Westside guy on July 18th, 2014 9:05 pm

    I agree with you Grayfox3d – but it seems like there should be some reasonable upgrades that shouldn’t cost all that much in talent.

    Now money… that’s another matter.

    That is a good point, Eastside – but I hope it’s not as bad as all that!

  39. Grayfox3d on July 18th, 2014 9:09 pm

    This guy is throwing junk and Endy can not lay off!

  40. Eastside Suds on July 18th, 2014 9:10 pm

    He pissed all over that one. We will take it.

  41. Grayfox3d on July 18th, 2014 9:10 pm

    and as i type that i look like a fool… oops

  42. msfanmike on July 18th, 2014 9:10 pm

    Blooooop!

  43. Westside guy on July 18th, 2014 9:10 pm

    Bad process, but good result!

  44. Grayfox3d on July 18th, 2014 9:14 pm

    So the Halo’s sent their top rated prospect, Taylor Lindsey, a fourth rated RHP, and 2 other guys for Huston Street and a prospect. Pretty good haul for Padres.

  45. Grayfox3d on July 18th, 2014 9:18 pm

    ugh, Kyle at least make it more interesting than that.

  46. Eastside Suds on July 18th, 2014 9:19 pm

    Angels have done a lot of that. Really surprised that they are doing as well as they are actually with their so-called depleted upper minor league system.

  47. Eastside Suds on July 18th, 2014 9:21 pm

    Kuma is done after this batter.

  48. msfanmike on July 18th, 2014 9:30 pm

    Come on LoMo, launch it.

  49. msfanmike on July 18th, 2014 9:32 pm

    Come on Smoak, don’t hit into a double play.

  50. msfanmike on July 18th, 2014 9:33 pm

    Huh, stunning.

  51. Grayfox3d on July 18th, 2014 9:35 pm

    Smoak, Thank you for the double earlier but can you kindly go away now.

  52. Westside guy on July 18th, 2014 9:36 pm

    Ackley might run somewhat faster if he didn’t have that huge wind catcher hanging from his face.

  53. californiamariner on July 18th, 2014 9:37 pm

    Why is Iwakuma done after 77 pitches?

  54. Grayfox3d on July 18th, 2014 9:46 pm

    The window/door/slider whatever you want to call it is starting to close on this game for the Mariners.

  55. Eastside Suds on July 18th, 2014 9:50 pm

    Throw him the Furbee….woo hoooo

  56. Grayfox3d on July 18th, 2014 9:57 pm

    1 pitch Rad Miller… 1 pitch out, were trying to win this and you take 1 pitch.

  57. Longgeorge1 on July 18th, 2014 10:02 pm

    Does anyone think that Chris Taylor should get a look? I know he is a SS but I am sure he could play a corner OF, 1B or DH

  58. Westside guy on July 18th, 2014 10:07 pm

    I’d like to see Taylor because I’m curious, but I’d prefer they not try having a player learn a new position at the major league level again. Just coming up is challenging enough.

  59. Eastside Suds on July 18th, 2014 10:12 pm

    Totally agree. Enough with these AAA/Major League “projects”. Let’s put players where they are best suited to succeed.

  60. Eastside Suds on July 18th, 2014 10:13 pm

    Got away with a hang-me-bang-me curve ball there. Lucky to get that one back.

  61. Grayfox3d on July 18th, 2014 10:14 pm

    Lord Farquhar gives us a scare and then saves the day! kinda.

  62. Breadbaker on July 18th, 2014 10:19 pm

    I guess it’s fair to say Cano is showing why he deserved that whole “batting third in the All-Star Game” thingie.

    And I hate this kind of replay.

  63. msfanmike on July 18th, 2014 10:20 pm

    Oh brother.

  64. msfanmike on July 18th, 2014 10:20 pm

    Good push tag. Just enough.

    Fuck

  65. WTF_Ms on July 18th, 2014 10:22 pm

    If the Ump is staring at his feet, and calls SAFE, it should be Non-Reviewable IMHO. Changes the outcome of the game.

    Let them play.

  66. californiamariner on July 18th, 2014 10:22 pm

    That overturned call really sucked. And I hate so much how I have to watch these games on the Angels broadcast. Man, they are so bad. Every time I remember why I hate this team so much.

  67. Grayfox3d on July 18th, 2014 10:38 pm

    Deja Vu all over again…

  68. Westside guy on July 18th, 2014 10:39 pm

    Crap.

  69. JMB on July 18th, 2014 10:39 pm

    Wow, great luck here in extra innings so far…

  70. Grayfox3d on July 18th, 2014 10:39 pm

    It really seems that the baseball gods really want the Angels to win this game.

  71. Longgeorge1 on July 18th, 2014 10:42 pm

    Just rip the Band-Aid off this is getting painful

  72. JMB on July 18th, 2014 10:43 pm

    To make it worse, we’ll get one run only to surrender two.

  73. juneau_fan on July 18th, 2014 10:47 pm

    Guess they should have let Iwakuma go longer…

  74. Longgeorge1 on July 18th, 2014 10:48 pm

    Why don’t we just bring Mauer in in the 2nd? (not for Kuma or Felix mind you) How can a guy be so nails in the pen and as a starter somewhat less?

  75. JMB on July 18th, 2014 10:57 pm

    I think I would have tried to get another inning (if not two) out of Mauer, given the way this game is going.

  76. JMB on July 18th, 2014 10:58 pm

    In relief he doesn’t have to pace himself. Look how much harder he’s throwing now than when he was a starter. He can go “all out” for a few batters instead of worrying about getting through the lineup two or three times.

  77. Jake on July 18th, 2014 10:58 pm

    Talk about lackadaisical. Wow.

  78. JMB on July 18th, 2014 11:00 pm

    Robinson Cano is the most nonchalant defender in baseball history.

  79. Jake on July 18th, 2014 11:02 pm

    Looks like the Angels are out of relievers in their bullpen at least.

  80. Jake on July 18th, 2014 11:07 pm

    Oof. Bad night for Kyle.

  81. Grayfox3d on July 18th, 2014 11:08 pm

    wow Seager has had an absolute horrible day at the plate today…. 1 hit from him could of been the difference.

  82. Westside guy on July 18th, 2014 11:12 pm

    Willie draws a gritty walk!

  83. Jake on July 18th, 2014 11:14 pm

    Nice hard hit single by the Beard of Bees.

  84. G-Man on July 18th, 2014 11:18 pm

    That’s strike three, Brad.

  85. Longgeorge1 on July 18th, 2014 11:18 pm

    Ugh too good too take

  86. juneau_fan on July 18th, 2014 11:20 pm

    I would think this would be a time to be swinging the bats, not trying to ‘work a walk’ seeing how there was a gentleman on third.

  87. Jake on July 18th, 2014 11:21 pm

    Wilhelmsen the long reliever, doesn’t sound like a good idea.

  88. Jake on July 18th, 2014 11:21 pm

    That wasn’t a gentleman at 3rd, that was WFB! The grittiest person this side of David Eckstein.

  89. JMB on July 18th, 2014 11:22 pm

    He definitely wasn’t looking for the curve.

  90. JMB on July 18th, 2014 11:23 pm

    Who’s the emergency pitcher? Jones?

  91. Sea-Dog on July 18th, 2014 11:23 pm

    Gets a 2-0 count and then doesn’t take the bat off of his shoulder. That was a soul crushing at bat from Brad.

  92. Westside guy on July 18th, 2014 11:24 pm

    The top of the Angel’s order is a lot scarier than the top of the Mariners order.

  93. JMB on July 18th, 2014 11:24 pm

    Truth.

  94. Westside guy on July 18th, 2014 11:26 pm

    But The Bartender refuses to be intimidated!

  95. Longgeorge1 on July 18th, 2014 11:28 pm

    I don’t know the top of the M’s order scares me!

  96. Jake on July 18th, 2014 11:28 pm

    Sims doesn’t know fractions very well, if he thinks that the middle of the 14th means there would be another 7 inning stretch.

    If there was a 2nd 7th inning stretch, it would happen after the bottom of the 13th.

  97. Longgeorge1 on July 18th, 2014 11:28 pm

    Tom is used to working at this hour

  98. Westside guy on July 18th, 2014 11:30 pm

    Hahaha!

  99. Jake on July 18th, 2014 11:30 pm

    Hearing that “Big Smokey” call makes me cringe. Every time.

  100. Longgeorge1 on July 18th, 2014 11:31 pm

    I was going to get up at 4AM to watch the British Open, I hope we win by then

  101. californiamariner on July 18th, 2014 11:32 pm

    Just one run guys! I really want this one! Endy!!

  102. Jake on July 18th, 2014 11:32 pm

    Yayyyyyy thanks for the gift.

    Sims called a groundball through the legs a base hit, then sounds surprised that it was an error.

    Go back to college football.

  103. Jake on July 18th, 2014 11:34 pm

    Ah man..that means Romero is going in the game.

  104. Grayfox3d on July 18th, 2014 11:34 pm

    oh god what is happening

  105. Jake on July 18th, 2014 11:34 pm

    Please just release Corey Hart; the year off and the surgeries ruined his swing.

  106. Grayfox3d on July 18th, 2014 11:34 pm

    could of saved our D and had the same results… cmon Mclendon!

  107. Westside guy on July 18th, 2014 11:35 pm

    Corey Hart, ladies and gentlemen.

  108. Jake on July 18th, 2014 11:36 pm

    More like Korey Hart.

  109. JMB on July 18th, 2014 11:36 pm

    Hart 1B, Bloomquist RF, Endy CF. No Romero.

  110. californiamariner on July 18th, 2014 11:38 pm

    JMB, that’s the lineup I was envisioning. Hope you’re right.

  111. californiamariner on July 18th, 2014 11:40 pm

    Aaand that’s not what happens on defense.

  112. Jake on July 18th, 2014 11:40 pm

    Nope, Romero is in right.

  113. Westside guy on July 18th, 2014 11:42 pm

    Boom Boom is at first, Romero in Right, Chavez in center.

  114. JMB on July 18th, 2014 11:42 pm

    Oh well, bad guess on my part.

  115. Westside guy on July 18th, 2014 11:43 pm

    I’d have preferred your lineup, JMB.

  116. Westside guy on July 18th, 2014 11:44 pm

    Don’t worry, folks. I have it on good authority that Mike Cameron is going to win it for us in the 19th inning.

  117. Jake on July 18th, 2014 11:46 pm

    hahhahah I remember that game so well.

    Jeff Fassero gets taken deep, and shitty Jose Mesa gets the win. Ahhhh 2000.

  118. californiamariner on July 18th, 2014 11:46 pm

    Mariners pitchers: 14 innings, zero walks.

  119. Jake on July 18th, 2014 11:48 pm

    Kyle: 0-7

  120. Longgeorge1 on July 18th, 2014 11:50 pm

    Bye Bye Baseball! Oh I was having a dream!

  121. Longgeorge1 on July 18th, 2014 11:51 pm

    WFB

  122. Grayfox3d on July 18th, 2014 11:52 pm

    way to look competitive out there!

  123. juneau_fan on July 18th, 2014 11:52 pm

    Listening on the radio. Sounds like 10 people are left there.

  124. Longgeorge1 on July 18th, 2014 11:54 pm

    That’s Ok in another hour or two Saturday’s crowd will start showing up

  125. Don Money on July 18th, 2014 11:57 pm

    Willies on base again? Doesn’t he know he doesn’t belong on a MLB roster? Again, he’s just what you want in a bench player.

  126. djw on July 19th, 2014 12:03 am

    I’d prefer my bench player to not cost a bunch of money to be below replacement level, myself. Ty Kelly, in his prime, wastes away while the Mariners worship the cult of the gritty veteran.

  127. Westside guy on July 19th, 2014 12:03 am

    Dag nabbit, I lost my game feed.

  128. californiamariner on July 19th, 2014 12:03 am

    Wilhelmsen: 4 IP, 1 hit, no walks , 4 Ks. Really.

  129. Jake on July 19th, 2014 12:04 am

    Tommy with a great job tonight, wow. I don’t recall him ever going 4 innings.

  130. Grayfox3d on July 19th, 2014 12:05 am

    Who’s left in the bullpen, Rodney?

  131. Westside guy on July 19th, 2014 12:07 am

    Rad Miller, ladies and gentlemen!

  132. Jake on July 19th, 2014 12:07 am

    People in the stands razzing Zunino about his average dipping below .200.

  133. Sea-Dog on July 19th, 2014 12:08 am

    I think Leone is still out there too.

  134. Jake on July 19th, 2014 12:08 am

    Leone is still left, too.

  135. juneau_fan on July 19th, 2014 12:08 am

    Maybe they cut you off after six hours, Westie. I assume you’re on some ‘special site’?

  136. Westside guy on July 19th, 2014 12:08 am

    Zunino bunting?! This will go well…

  137. JMB on July 19th, 2014 12:08 am

    Really? REALLY?

  138. Jake on July 19th, 2014 12:08 am

    Zunino and Seager: 0-14 with 9 LOB.

  139. Grayfox3d on July 19th, 2014 12:08 am

    blah cmon Z

  140. Jake on July 19th, 2014 12:09 am

    …Christ.

  141. JMB on July 19th, 2014 12:09 am

    This has gotten ugly in a hurry.

  142. Westside guy on July 19th, 2014 12:10 am

    Nah, Juneau – I’m on MLB.tv and it’s not the most dependable service in the world, unfortunately. But I got it for 50% off so I can’t complain too much.

    Hey thank you, Lloyd McLendon.

  143. Grayfox3d on July 19th, 2014 12:10 am

    hahahaha this is just getting sloppy! wow! just get it over with already.

  144. Jake on July 19th, 2014 12:10 am

    Please give us a closeup of the girl in red in the box behind home plate.

  145. Jake on July 19th, 2014 12:11 am

    Three times tonight Chavez has flung the bat out of his hands.

  146. Westside guy on July 19th, 2014 12:12 am

    (Got my feed back, and will second Jake’s request)

  147. Grayfox3d on July 19th, 2014 12:12 am

    sure wishing we kept Luetge up with the club.

  148. taylor.mariner on July 19th, 2014 12:14 am

    Just got home from work to watch the replay, and I get to watch live baseball! Yay!

  149. Jake on July 19th, 2014 12:15 am

    Looks like the cute girl in red went home :( .

  150. Eastside Suds on July 19th, 2014 12:16 am

    Leone needs to last a while if we can’t get any runs. WFB pitches, doesn’t he?

  151. Jake on July 19th, 2014 12:16 am

    Good this is mercifully coming to an end.

  152. Grayfox3d on July 19th, 2014 12:16 am

    Looks like this could be it!

  153. Eastside Suds on July 19th, 2014 12:16 am

    Walk Pujols

  154. Jake on July 19th, 2014 12:19 am

    Good idea! Pitch to Pujols! What could possibly go wrong?

  155. taylor.mariner on July 19th, 2014 12:19 am

    Yeah, I think pitching to Pujols is a bad idea…

  156. Jake on July 19th, 2014 12:20 am

    wow..thank our lucky stars. Come on Josh, join Seager and Zunino in the 0-7 club

  157. Eastside Suds on July 19th, 2014 12:20 am

    Walk Hamilton!!

  158. Grayfox3d on July 19th, 2014 12:20 am

    how lucky was that… still have Hamilton to deal with.

  159. Jake on July 19th, 2014 12:20 am

    Yay they’re walking Hamilton!

  160. JMB on July 19th, 2014 12:21 am

    “You finally got on base tonight!” Classic.

  161. Eastside Suds on July 19th, 2014 12:21 am

    Gotta love those guys behind home plate. Hilarious.

  162. taylor.mariner on July 19th, 2014 12:22 am

    AHHHH HAHAHA love the Angels fan that yelled out to hambone, “you finally got on base tonight!” NOOOOOOO!

  163. Jake on July 19th, 2014 12:22 am

    And if you didn’t see that coming, you haven’t followed the Mariners for long.

  164. JMB on July 19th, 2014 12:22 am

    Boom goes the dynamite.

  165. Eastside Suds on July 19th, 2014 12:22 am

    Elvis has left the building. Goodnight everybody!

  166. Grayfox3d on July 19th, 2014 12:22 am

    hahaha walking Hamilton worked out great!

  167. djw on July 19th, 2014 12:22 am

    Fuck.

  168. Grayfox3d on July 19th, 2014 12:24 am

    Romero gets sent back down and Luetge comes back up in the AM.

  169. californiamariner on July 19th, 2014 12:24 am

    That was a marvelous 5 and a half hours.

  170. Jake on July 19th, 2014 12:25 am

    Couldn’t do that; call ups have to stay up for 10 days, unless someone went on the DL with an “injury”, then Luetge could come back up.

  171. Westside guy on July 19th, 2014 12:26 am

    Well there you go.

  172. JMB on July 19th, 2014 12:41 am

    Happy Felix Day!

  173. msfanmike on July 19th, 2014 7:39 am

    Call ups don’t have a Minimum amount of time for having to stay up. The ten day rule applies to players who are sent down and the “injury” rule applies to whether or not that specific player can be recalled.

    Luetge was only up with the big club for one game before the all star break – as a recent example of a player who was not up with the big club for 10 days.

  174. Paul B on July 19th, 2014 11:38 am

    So, is the game over yet?

  175. dc24 on July 19th, 2014 2:52 pm

    Terrible way to lose, but I felt like the baseball gods didn’t want us to win that one. Have an out at the plate and Zunino can’t hold on to the ball. Cano’s lead off double turns into an out, could have led to the winning run (even though that’s no sure thing with this team). Miller lines what looks to be the game winning hit up the middle only to have Salas snag it out of the air. Unfortunate, but it was still a winnable game, even with Seager not doing anything all night. Love the bullpen’s effort, might should have let Iwakuma in longer though. He might could have gone 10 the way he was pitching. But hopefully we can get today’s game. Good news is that the Royals and Blue Jays both lost.

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