Game 108, Mariners at Indians

marc w · July 31, 2014 at 12:29 pm · Filed Under Mariners 

Chris Young vs. Zach McAllister, 4:05pm

It’s the trade deadline! The M’s upgraded their offense by picking up OF Chris Denorfia for Abe Almonte and MiLB RP Stephen Kohlscheen. That’s…that’s not going to grab you many headlines even on a quiet trade deadline day, but it’s going to get lost after the A’s made yet another blockbuster, sending OF Yoenis Cespedes to Boston in exchange for SP Jon Lester. The A’s postseason rotation is going to be fearsome, and Cespedes would’ve been gone after 2015 anyway – he also can’t be offered a qualifying offer, so no draft pick to Boston. The A’s also picked up Sam Fuld, the OF they waived a few months ago, for SP Tommy Milone. Milone didn’t have a place after the LAST A’s blockbuster, but that’s a terrible return for a cheap, back of the rotation starter that gave the A’s around 450 innings of average-ish performance.

Asdrubal Cabrera’s now a National, Gerardo Parra went to the Brewers, and David Price and Marlon Byrd haven’t moved anywhere yet. Denorfia’s 34, and suffering through an abysmal season with San Diego, but he’s been an effective platoon bat as recently as last year. He can also play all OF positions, so some are excited about the possibility of seeing less Endy Chavez as early as tomorrow. I can see the M’s platooning the two, so we’ll have to see. The M’s will need to make a 25-man move to get Denorfia up, so we’ll see.

Stephen Kohlscheen’s got some very good K:BB ratios in the minors, but he doesn’t have big time velocity or a wipe-out breaking ball. Jason Parks was underwhelmed, but others see him as a near-MLB ready 6th-7th inning guy. For the M’s, though, he’s buried at the moment. Hefty MLB-vet Todd Coffey’s tearing up the PCL right now, and reports have his velocity sitting in the mid-90s. Forrest Snow’s continuing his resurgent season following suspension, and of course Brandon Maurer’s transformation into a bona fide MLB bullpen ace looks just about complete.

Zach McAllister’s ERA’s up well over a run this year, but his FIP has actually declined from what looked like a breakout 2013. He’s a four-seam, cutter/slider/change guy with zero platoon splits (in his career, his FIP v. lefties = 4.05, while his FIP v. righties = 4.05). He’s looked decent at times, especially as he’s picked up some velocity – he’s now averaging nearly 94mph on his FB – but so-so control and the lack of an out-pitch limits his upside. He’ll always be the guy who lost to Anthony Vasquez in his MLB debut to me.

Today’s line-up:
1: Ackley, LF
2: Taylor, SS
3: Cano, 2B
4: Morales, DH
5: Seager, 3B
6: Zunino, C
7: Morrison, 1B
8: Hart, RF
9: Chavez, CF
SP: Chris Young


146 Responses to “Game 108, Mariners at Indians”

  1. msfanmike on July 31st, 2014 5:39 pm

    Good shot, Paul … Yeah me and Lloyd are onesies on all matters.

    Good call. Well thought out.

    I said that piece of data does not interest me and that maybe it was just me, so feel free to blast off all you care to.

  2. Grayfox3d on July 31st, 2014 5:40 pm

    Wonder if Morales will hit consistently at all for us the rest of the season.

  3. MrZDevotee on July 31st, 2014 5:42 pm

    The only time I look at win probabilities is when the final score is up.

  4. Paul B on July 31st, 2014 5:42 pm

    So Cano beats the pitcher to the bag, and then he steals his 8th base of the season.

    Looking good out there.

  5. MrZDevotee on July 31st, 2014 5:43 pm

    I’d say he’s been hitting consistently since he first got here… (ba dum *cymbal crash*)

  6. Paul B on July 31st, 2014 5:44 pm

    Scott Atchison? who knew.

  7. msfanmike on July 31st, 2014 5:45 pm

    If we score a run here and then hold Cleveland scoreless for the rest of the game, I would have to put our chances of winning this game at 100%

  8. MrZDevotee on July 31st, 2014 5:45 pm

    How many 49th round pitchers do you figure still have a pro baseball career 16 years later?

    Good for Atchison.

  9. msfanmike on July 31st, 2014 5:47 pm

    What were the % chances that Atchison would have been able to do that?

    And now that he has done it, what are the % chances?

  10. msfanmike on July 31st, 2014 5:49 pm

    5 regulation at bats remaining for the Indians and only 4 for the Mariners. Cleveland must have a better % chance Of winning a nine inning game, now. Oh noooo’s.

  11. MrZDevotee on July 31st, 2014 5:50 pm

    I’d guess 0% when he started, and closer to 99% now that he’s done it. Maybe 99.9%, with a margin for error.

  12. MrZDevotee on July 31st, 2014 5:51 pm

    Don’t forget we have 80% suckier batters than they do, so that leans it in their favor too. More at bats, and better hitters– we’ve already lost.


  13. Paul B on July 31st, 2014 5:51 pm

    Yeah, Mike, we get it. Stats are worthless.

    Thanks for your insight.

  14. msfanmike on July 31st, 2014 5:52 pm

    They should roll out the tarp now! Just based on the percentages.

  15. msfanmike on July 31st, 2014 5:54 pm

    I do like the data as it applies to whether or not you should bunt – late in a game – to score a run.

    But providing the teams winning % chance in the third inning of a game kinda speaks for itself. IMO

    IMO, Paul … IMO.

  16. msfanmike on July 31st, 2014 5:56 pm

    Okay Paul, you win the thread. Cuz that’s exactly what I said.

  17. msfanmike on July 31st, 2014 6:11 pm

    Let’s not kill the thread because Paul and I got into a hair pulling cat fight.

  18. MrZDevotee on July 31st, 2014 6:11 pm

    I thought it was funny.

    And Mike certainly has nothing against stats.

    Both of you, cut it out. 100%.

  19. MrZDevotee on July 31st, 2014 6:12 pm

    All I’m saying is that everyone was getting along back when we had an 85% chance of winning.

    (sorry, couldn’t resist)

  20. msfanmike on July 31st, 2014 6:12 pm

    Come on Young – make it through this inning, clean.

  21. msfanmike on July 31st, 2014 6:42 pm

    The wafting arbiter … Run that nickname by your wife, Mr Z. A potential new username, to boot.

    Although, your “namesake” did have a pretty good day, today.

  22. msfanmike on July 31st, 2014 6:49 pm

    Perfectly shifted themselves to not get the DP


    Played the percentages, probably. Good process bad result. Or, simply a bad result.

  23. MrZDevotee on July 31st, 2014 7:04 pm

    Just sat down after dinner– and Mr. Zunino took the lead back! Woohoo…

  24. msfanmike on July 31st, 2014 7:05 pm


  25. Grayfox3d on July 31st, 2014 7:07 pm

    Corey Hart doesnt even look like he’s trying anymore.

  26. HighlightsAt11 on July 31st, 2014 7:10 pm

    Besides a relatively good month of May, this season Furbush has hurt the M’s more than he has helped.

  27. msfanmike on July 31st, 2014 7:11 pm

    I was hoping the Mariners would work out a deal that would have sent Hart to Milwaukee for just a little bit more than nothing.

  28. HighlightsAt11 on July 31st, 2014 7:11 pm

    Cliche repeat alert: When Zunino makes contact he hits the ball pretty well.

  29. pdome01 on July 31st, 2014 7:13 pm

    Does Zunino hit all his homeruns in the 8th inning

  30. Grayfox3d on July 31st, 2014 7:16 pm

    Pretty routine catch for Endy there, I bet Hart turns gives up a double there.

  31. Grayfox3d on July 31st, 2014 7:19 pm

    This Brandon Maurer kid is very studly coming out of the pen! I like it!

  32. msfanmike on July 31st, 2014 7:20 pm

    Beautiful last pitch by Maurer. He put that 0-2 pitch precisely where Zunino placed his glove. That was awesome!

  33. HighlightsAt11 on July 31st, 2014 7:21 pm

    Both Hart and Lomo have the same .207 BA. Hart has the better OBP and Lomo has the better SLG %. I did not look at FanGraphs WAR, etc.

    Oh I just see Hart was pulled from the game, for Jones. For defensive purposes or to give a head start to clean out his locker? Hopefully both.

    Jones to Tacoma tomorrow and Hart to DFA?

  34. Woodcutta on July 31st, 2014 7:22 pm

    Sometimes I wonder what Ackely is thinking at the plate.

  35. Grayfox3d on July 31st, 2014 7:22 pm

    I dont know what Ackley was doing that at bat, but every pitch was right down the pipe! Not a good at bat there, needs to change that if he wants to be consistant.

  36. msfanmike on July 31st, 2014 7:24 pm

    Ackley got worked. He must have been having a hard time picking the ball up out of the pitchers hand.

  37. Grayfox3d on July 31st, 2014 7:40 pm

    Rodney was nasty tonight! except that fastball to Santana he looked good!

  38. stevemotivateir on July 31st, 2014 7:42 pm

    That damn arrow is incredibly annoying. I’m happy for the win, but I could really do without the antics.

  39. Eastside Suds on July 31st, 2014 8:24 pm

    100% chance he continues to do that after a save. Just sayin’

  40. stevemotivateir on July 31st, 2014 8:35 pm

    85% chance we’ll see that again before a save.

  41. Sports on a Shtick on July 31st, 2014 9:48 pm

    GMZ got value for Almonte. That is amazing.

  42. Westside guy on August 1st, 2014 8:51 am

    Almonte hasn’t been completely hopeless in AAA. And he’s young. He probably has more value than someone like James Jones, who is several years older than Almonte is.

  43. MrZDevotee on August 1st, 2014 9:13 am

    I didn’t mind the arrow until Logan Morrison started joining in… Now it’s really annoying… It was one thing to have a quick little fake arrow shoot into the sky, but to then have a fake conversation about it is a bit overkill…

    Reason enough to send LoMo packing in my eyes. (Okay, maybe not… But close!)

  44. dc24 on August 1st, 2014 9:23 am

    Actually Almonte and Jones are both 25, but Jones will turn 26 in September.

  45. Westside guy on August 1st, 2014 10:28 am

    Almonte’s 25!? I thought he was 22-23! hahaha That’ll teach me to comment on anything related to the minor leagues.

    Well now, then – good job Jack Z!

    Seriously, I don’t get it. We can’t ignore all the bone-headed stuff he’s done over the past couple of years, but Jack made some pretty decent moves yesterday. I do wonder if G-Man is right – he was mostly handed them by Detroit and Atlanta; but still, he had to pull the trigger.

  46. dc24 on August 1st, 2014 11:12 am

    Haha yeah, I have to give Jack Z some credit too. I thought we did good yesterday.

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