Game 143, Astros at Mariners

marc w · September 8, 2014 at 5:30 pm · Filed Under Mariners 

King Felix vs. Brad Peacock, 7:10pm
Wildcard Odds – Fangraphs.com 52.3% Baseballprospectus.com: 47.5%

Happy Felix Day, everyone. I apologize for not getting game threads up, but I decided to take a page out of Jeff/Matthew’s book and go camping instead. I’ve mentioned the many ways this season feels different than its immediate predecessors, but I’ve been camping several times over the past few years and not once was I upset about missing an M’s game. I was a bit upset at missing these two games. Not distraught or anything, but hey, after the decade we’ve all had, any sort of feeling is a good sign.

The Astros come to town fresh off a series win against the Athletics, another sign that Houston’s not quite the embarassment they’ve been for the past few years. Since July 1st, they’re 19-15, which isn’t bad for a team that lost an astonishing 218 games over 2012-13. They’ve even posted the 2nd best improvement in run differential from 2013 to 2014 at +152 runs (2nd behind Seattle at +223). They’re still not good, of course, and with George Springer on the 15-day DL, they’re arguably less interesting than a a team that’s this far into a rebuild should be. But they’re not without strengths. One player to whom the label “strength” applies is 1B/LF/DH Chris Carter, the lumbering slugger who came to Houston in the Jed Lowrie deal with Oakland – a trade that also netted the Astros tonight’s starter, Brad Peacock.* Carter went from PCL terror (Mike Curto still shudders involuntarily at the mention of his name, the result of the show he put on in the 2009 PCL playoffs) to overmatched, overage MLB prospect to possible AL home run crown winner. His success sheds some light on the shifts baseball’s undergone in the past five-ten seasons.

Carter had light-tower power coming out of HS, and put up solid power numbers in the minors, first in the White Sox system and then with the A’s. But he was always beset by strikeout issues, and his trouble with breaking balls and pitch recognition has led to freakishly high whiff rates. By pitch fx, no qualified batter has made less contact than Carter. That’s a problem – one that can only be overcome with great defense, an extremely patient approach, or off-the-charts power. Carter’s not a great fielder, even at 1B, so the combination of his fielding and his spot on the fielding spectrum means he’s yielded over 50 runs in his brief MLB career thus far. So, the balancing attribute isn’t going to be defense. Carter’s walk rate is a very respectable 8.8% this year, but that’s down substantially from his 11% career rate, or the 12% he put up last year. The problem is that he’s an aggressive hitter, and thus he swings at more pitches than average, despite seeing a few less strikes. It’s not that he flails at pitches in the dirt, but that he’ll swing at pitches on the edges – and just off the edges – of the zone. So, he’s not going to put up peak-period Adam Dunn OBPs either.

To be viable at ALL in baseball, Carter has to make the most of every time he contacts the ball. For Carter, that’s meant focusing on launch angle. Just looking at Mike Fast’s tweets (former public sabermetrics guy and current Astros employee), it looks like the team pays a lot of attention to that too. We don’t have hit FX, but we can certainly look at Carter’s GB and FB rates. Since 2012, his FB% has gone from 45.7% to 46.8% to 53.9%. The Astros aren’t paying Carter to hit ground balls, so this looks like a very good sign. Carter’s 2nd in the league in HRs, but his overall batting line certainly isn’t up to those his peers like Jose Abreu, Mike Trout or even Nelson Cruz are crafting. We’re still talking about a limited player here,** but the larger question behind all of this is: how do you get the most out of what you have? The Astros are getting more out of Carter than most thought they could.

Brad Peacock is a righty with a 93mph four-seam fastball that gets a ton of vertical rise. As such, it won’t shock you that he’s an extreme fly ball/pop-up guy who has his share of home run problems. To lefties, he’ll throw a big curve ball and a change-up, and to righties he features a slider, backed by the curve. The hook’s his best pitch, with solid whiff rates and a record of success against lefties. The fastball’s solid, as the vertical movement gets him less contact than you’d think, while minimizing platoon splits. The problem is that he trades occasional hard contact for these assorted virtues, and his walk rate makes that a really steep price to pay. It’s odd for a guy who throws so many four-seam fastballs, but Peacock’s *career* BB/9 is 4.42, and his career walk rate is over 11%. That’s fine if you’re a fireballer with enough velocity to minimize HRs/hard contact or a reliever who strikes out enough to compensate. It’s not fine if you’re a starter giving up 1.35 HR/9. His career ERA/FIP are essentially identical, and thus he’s just slightly above replacement level over his 212 career IP whichever flavor of WAR you choose. There’s always the sense that there’s more talent in there somewhere, and that a small change would produce big results the way they have for teammates Collin McHugh and Dallas Keuchel. But for now, Peacock’s the same guy the M’s have seen often the past two seasons – a guy who will reward a patient approach, and will give batters a few mistakes over the course of the game.

1: Jackson, CF
2: Chavez, LF
3: Cano, 2B
4: Morales, DH
5: Seager, 3B
6: Morrison, 1B
7: Zunino, C
8: Saunders, RF
9: Miller, SS
SP: KING FELIX

Go out and watch this one, Seattle. This is a critical game in September with the M’s best pitcher taking on a divisional rival. Gooooooo.

Lots of lefties tonight, and a warm welcome back to Michael Saunders. Nice timing too, with Dustin Ackley’s ankle still bothering him.

The Tigers and Royals are facing off right now, so the M’s gain ground on someone. I suppose it’s time to temporarily start cheering for the Royals, which is tough because I *just* got used to rooting against them. The A’s have been in free fall, which makes their trip to the south side so critical. Schadenfreude is seeing a team that looked like the class of baseball pressing in a must-win game against Hector Noesi.

* That trade’s been good for all involved. The A’s got Lowrie’s best/healthiest year ever last year and rode him to a 3+ WAR season and the playoffs. The Astros solved their 1B/DH woes after shuffling through Carlos Pena, Brett Wallace and Brandon Laird.

* I’ve been thinking about what player Carter reminds me of. Mark Reynolds comes to mind, of course, but a 3B has more to offer defensively, and Reynolds got started a bit quicker. I’d point out that Carter’s 2013 K% was actually higher than Reynolds career high, a fact that surprised me more than it probably should have. Going back to the similar offensive environment of the 80s, Jesse Barfield is out due to great defense, and George Bell because he struck out infrequently. But I think I’ve got one. This player bounced between AAA-MLB for three years before getting a starting gig at 27 and putting up a line of .244/.320/.498. In his next season, he went .243/.307/.477 and led the league in strikeouts. Carter’s first year? .223/.320/.451. This year, he’s at .235/.309/.521, and ranks last in contact. Neither had big platoon splits ala Ryan Howard, they’re the same type of hitter against righties and lefties alike. So there you go, Chris Carter is most like ex-Royal and ex-Mariner Steve “Bye-Bye” Balboni.

Comments

154 Responses to “Game 143, Astros at Mariners”

  1. Paul B on September 8th, 2014 5:53 pm

    Felix Day!

    Because I’m happy!
    http://youtu.be/Q2E5RSJhDHI

  2. Westside guy on September 8th, 2014 6:28 pm

    Yay Saunders! Welcome back! Go 4-4 today!

  3. msfanmike on September 8th, 2014 6:32 pm

    Camping?

    Nobody available off the bench? Bullpen was empty? A one-man band?

    That’s just poor roster construction.

    Please ask Danny Farquar if he can pinch write a post, next time.

  4. The_Waco_Kid on September 8th, 2014 6:49 pm

    Condor!

  5. californiamariner on September 8th, 2014 7:17 pm

    Are you guys all cheering for the Royals this series? I would kinda rather see the Tigers sweep them and let us contend with Kansas City.

  6. msfanmike on September 8th, 2014 7:21 pm

    I’m rooting for one of them to beat the crap out of the other one. If Detroit and KC split their remaining games against each other, the Mariners won’t gain much ground (if any) on either one of them. If KC swept all six remaining games, that would be great. Since Detroit won game #1 today – that’s less great, but any time either one of those teams lose is good news for the Mariners. Angels did us a solid and beat Cleveland today.

  7. Grayfox3d on September 8th, 2014 7:28 pm

    Couple of hard hit balls there, to bad Endy’s found a glove and Kendrys is just well, he’s Kendrys cant hope for much with him anyway. And what the heck was Jackson swinging at! cmon man!

  8. Jake on September 8th, 2014 7:43 pm

    Logan’s working the count!

  9. Section329 on September 8th, 2014 7:43 pm

    Speaking of Farquhar, I tuned in late yesterday to see him pinch running. All I could find out today was he was an “emergency” pinch runner. Help-what emergency? Don’t we have 4 million call ups on the bench?

  10. Jake on September 8th, 2014 7:44 pm

    Great AB LoMo.

  11. Jake on September 8th, 2014 7:45 pm

    Section329: The only non-pitchers available to run at the time off of the bench were Ackley (who injured his ankle the night before), Smoak (who ended up making the last out of the game), and Quintero.

  12. Jake on September 8th, 2014 7:46 pm

    Zunino’s in a familiar spot: an 0-2 count.

    Even more familiar: he got hit by the pitch.

  13. Longgeorge1 on September 8th, 2014 7:47 pm

    Jake – Some folks just like to complain -

  14. Grayfox3d on September 8th, 2014 7:50 pm

    can we make it any easier for the Astros? Seager out on 2 pitches, Brad miller gets a guy on 3rd and swings at the first pitch.

  15. Jake on September 8th, 2014 8:00 pm

    Here’s to hoping former Mariner, Eric O’Flaherty blows the A’s 1 run lead in the 9th.

  16. Longgeorge1 on September 8th, 2014 8:02 pm

    GF3d – were they good pitches? I am just listening. If they were fishing Ok but if they were hitters pitches why let them go?

  17. Section329 on September 8th, 2014 8:02 pm

    Thanks, Jake. It would awful to imagine Smoak pinch running!

  18. Grayfox3d on September 8th, 2014 8:06 pm

    George, The stike out for Jackson was terrible, swinging at pitches way out in the dirt, and Brad got a decent pitch but why swing away at the first pitch when you have the pitcher on the ropes, its just letting them off easy.

  19. Longgeorge1 on September 8th, 2014 8:06 pm

    Hey Jake good call

  20. msfanmike on September 8th, 2014 8:09 pm

    Any word on why Lloyd moved Seager to 5th against the RHP?

  21. Longgeorge1 on September 8th, 2014 8:09 pm

    GF3d Sometimes the first strike is the best one you are going to see, Look at BA or OBP by counts and you will see that things get ugly when the batter falls behind on the count.

  22. Grayfox3d on September 8th, 2014 8:12 pm

    I was wondering the same thing Mike. And also can we please hit a ball not right at someone.

  23. WTF_Ms on September 8th, 2014 8:13 pm

    I’m super impressed with the warning track power from Morales.

  24. Longgeorge1 on September 8th, 2014 8:15 pm

    Check swing strike 3 – going deep in count is not a sure answer

  25. Grayfox3d on September 8th, 2014 8:16 pm

    This is exactly what I was afraid of, looking way to soft right now against the Astros, It’s another must win game to keep our WC spot, so lets go boys!

  26. Longgeorge1 on September 8th, 2014 8:17 pm

    A’s in bot 10 4-4

  27. Grayfox3d on September 8th, 2014 8:17 pm

    Anyone else hold their breath when Miller throws to first? It’s hard for me to watch lol.

  28. Section329 on September 8th, 2014 8:19 pm

    You are not alone, Grayfox.

  29. Longgeorge1 on September 8th, 2014 8:20 pm

    I like Taylor much better at SS

  30. Longgeorge1 on September 8th, 2014 8:22 pm

    A’s going to 11th Got to hit the road, Go M’s, Go ChiSox

  31. msfanmike on September 8th, 2014 8:24 pm

    I have a hard time watching lol, too. He is old and used up.

    Chat speak blows.

  32. msfanmike on September 8th, 2014 8:30 pm

    Condor!

  33. Grayfox3d on September 8th, 2014 8:31 pm

    Wonder what reason Rad has for swinging at that pitch lol..

  34. djw on September 8th, 2014 8:39 pm

    Is it just me or is this a pretty expansive zone all around?

    I’m watching the Astros broadcast and they apparently don’t have or aren’t using the tracer.

  35. Grayfox3d on September 8th, 2014 8:39 pm

    Felix has a ton of pitches already thru 5, hope he can at least make it thru 7

  36. Grayfox3d on September 8th, 2014 8:51 pm

    wow…. we look silly at the plate tonight, not even funny the amount of garbage pitches were swinging at.

  37. Sowulo on September 8th, 2014 8:52 pm

    Oakland lost. Flowers homers to tie it in the 9th and homers in the 12th to win it.

  38. Section329 on September 8th, 2014 8:53 pm

    Wooo! 5-4 Sox in the 12th.

  39. WTF_Ms on September 8th, 2014 8:55 pm

    Hey, there’s that power from our DH again. Lovely.

  40. JMB on September 8th, 2014 9:01 pm

    He’s throwing a ton of curveballs tonight.

  41. Westside guy on September 8th, 2014 9:02 pm

    Man, Oakland is tanking fast. And tonight they were playing one of the bad teams from their ostensibly easy September schedule.

  42. Grayfox3d on September 8th, 2014 9:05 pm

    So Felix, do you feel like throwing a strike any time soon?

  43. Jake on September 8th, 2014 9:07 pm

    Let’s go offense; win it for the King.

  44. Dobbs on September 8th, 2014 9:11 pm

    Kyle Seager is currently 5th in WAR among position players. How likely is he to get MVP votes?

  45. Grayfox3d on September 8th, 2014 9:11 pm

    Everything we hit is hard but at someone, it’s so frustrating to watch!

  46. Longgeorge1 on September 8th, 2014 9:16 pm

    Felix seems to bury a lot of 1-2 and 0-2 pitches; good pitching, but if I was managing against him I would send anyone with even average speed from 1st. If the catcher blocks or doesn’t pick it clean it would be a free base

  47. Jake on September 8th, 2014 9:17 pm

    Yesterday the M’s didn’t hit one ball hard all game, so at least this is a contrast.

  48. Jake on September 8th, 2014 9:18 pm

    Fucking Zunino, they’re going to throw you breaking balls, buy a god damned clue.

  49. Grayfox3d on September 8th, 2014 9:18 pm

    Oh Zunino how I wish you could hit for average.

  50. Jake on September 8th, 2014 9:24 pm

    Good job Saunders. Let’s go B-Rad, don’t be so aggressive early in the count.

  51. djw on September 8th, 2014 9:24 pm

    Nice AB for Saunders. Come on Miller!

  52. Jake on September 8th, 2014 9:24 pm

    YES!

  53. Westside guy on September 8th, 2014 9:24 pm

    Condor seems to be Condor. Quite a contrast to the guy immediately before him in the lineup.

  54. djw on September 8th, 2014 9:25 pm

    I’ll take that.

  55. msfanmike on September 8th, 2014 9:25 pm

    Yes!!!

  56. Jake on September 8th, 2014 9:25 pm

    Damn you Brad for being so aggressive early in the count!

  57. Westside guy on September 8th, 2014 9:25 pm

    WOO!

  58. Grayfox3d on September 8th, 2014 9:25 pm

    Holy balls we scored a damn run! it feels like its been so damn long! I give all the credit right now to Saunders and his great at bat!

  59. Longgeorge1 on September 8th, 2014 9:25 pm

    Are we complaining about Brad swinging at the first pitch now?

  60. Section329 on September 8th, 2014 9:25 pm

    Go Condor and Rad!

  61. Grayfox3d on September 8th, 2014 9:26 pm

    lol, I look like an idiot when first pitch swings go for a hit, but again I cant stand it when it gets an out.

  62. Westside guy on September 8th, 2014 9:26 pm

    LoMo looked spent as he crossed home! Haha

  63. californiamariner on September 8th, 2014 9:26 pm

    Just saw that A’s finish. Wow…

    Runs! Nice job Miller

  64. Jake on September 8th, 2014 9:26 pm

    Yes, Longgeorge1, I am. It’s great to second guess it since it produced a positive result, but Miller swings at too many awful first pitches early in the count.

  65. Grayfox3d on September 8th, 2014 9:27 pm

    Just throw it in the dirt, Jackson will swing at it.

  66. Westside guy on September 8th, 2014 9:29 pm

    Man, Jackson hasn’t looked like the guy I thought we were getting – at the dish, anyway. Isn’t he supposed to be a patient hitter that gets on base at a decent clip?

  67. Longgeorge1 on September 8th, 2014 9:32 pm

    Jake – Yes I agree – I just get ticked at the blanket – oh he swung at the first pitch thing. If you get a good pitch and make a good swing and make an out – that’s baseball. Miller has had a tough go – swinging at bad pitches and erratic fielding to boot, not a big fan of his. Like Taylor better, but Lloyd is doing the R-L thing and Rad is going to get more ABs unless we see a lot of Lefties

  68. JMB on September 8th, 2014 9:33 pm

    Did they seriously just show FIP and WAR on the TV broadcast? Floored.

  69. Westside guy on September 8th, 2014 9:33 pm

    Wow, ROOT just showed Felix’s WAR?!

  70. Grayfox3d on September 8th, 2014 9:34 pm

    DAMNIT!

  71. JMB on September 8th, 2014 9:34 pm

    Great effort Saunders.

  72. Westside guy on September 8th, 2014 9:34 pm

    Crap.

  73. Grayfox3d on September 8th, 2014 9:34 pm

    MY GOD SAUNDERS!!! SO CLOSE!

  74. Westside guy on September 8th, 2014 9:35 pm

    Almost a great catch by Saunders.

  75. djw on September 8th, 2014 9:35 pm

    That’s probably going to be a triple? It’s ump’s discretion weather it’s 3B or 2B, right? Can’t be a homer.

  76. Grayfox3d on September 8th, 2014 9:36 pm

    thats a homer, he went over the fence to catch it. At least thats my take.

  77. californiamariner on September 8th, 2014 9:36 pm

    Damn Saunders that was almost a hell of a catch.

  78. Grayfox3d on September 8th, 2014 9:36 pm

    nm then hah, ill take it.

  79. bongo on September 8th, 2014 9:36 pm

    Can someone explain why Chris Taylor has been riding the bench? He still has 100 points of batting average over Miller.

  80. djw on September 8th, 2014 9:37 pm

    Not if it only touched his glove.

  81. Grayfox3d on September 8th, 2014 9:37 pm

    Is Lloyd arguing that it should be an out?

  82. djw on September 8th, 2014 9:38 pm

    McClendon has a point; defense shuts down when the HR signal goes up. Should be a double.

  83. djw on September 8th, 2014 9:38 pm

    No, that he should be given a double.

  84. Longgeorge1 on September 8th, 2014 9:38 pm

    Walk Altuvie

  85. JMB on September 8th, 2014 9:39 pm

    OK, now crap.

  86. Grayfox3d on September 8th, 2014 9:39 pm

    Just delaying the inevitable.

  87. djw on September 8th, 2014 9:39 pm

    DAMMIT. Solid throw from Saunders, just a little too deep.

  88. Grayfox3d on September 8th, 2014 9:39 pm

    That was stupid not to walk him…. wow.

  89. Westside guy on September 8th, 2014 9:39 pm

    Li’l Altuve.

  90. californiamariner on September 8th, 2014 9:39 pm

    Get em Lloyd! About as animated as I’ve seen him.

  91. Westside guy on September 8th, 2014 9:40 pm

    Oh man… Nice throw by Saunders.

  92. Longgeorge1 on September 8th, 2014 9:41 pm

    Bongo – I don’t know the splits, I think I already have a few I like Taylor comments here, even just for his glove

  93. juneau_fan on September 8th, 2014 9:41 pm

    Well poop.

  94. Sowulo on September 8th, 2014 9:43 pm

    Grayfox. “It is better to keep quiet and let people assume you are stupid than to speak and eliminate all doubt” – Mark Twain

    You walk Altuve in that situation and he will immediately steal 2nd. Now you are facing the clean up hitter with the go ahead run in scoring position.

  95. californiamariner on September 8th, 2014 9:43 pm

    Lloyd got ejected. I understand his point because everybody stops playing once the umpire signals home run. But the runner was past halfway to third by the time Jackson picked up the ball so it was probably right that the runner ended up on third (that’s what would’ve happened anyway if no signal was made)

  96. Grayfox3d on September 8th, 2014 9:45 pm

    Now would be a perfect time for a Cano Home run!

  97. Longgeorge1 on September 8th, 2014 9:47 pm

    Bongo – Taylor is batting over .300 against RIGHTIES – the rest of his numbers are slightly better against lefties, but no obvious numerical reason

  98. Grayfox3d on September 8th, 2014 9:51 pm

    Well, at least were not paying Morales that 14m he turned down.

  99. WTF_Ms on September 8th, 2014 9:52 pm

    OMG! When will Morales be OUT of the lineup?

  100. Westside guy on September 8th, 2014 9:52 pm

    He really isn’t good right-handed.

  101. Longgeorge1 on September 8th, 2014 9:52 pm

    SOWULO – Carter is hitting 100pts less than Altuvie and he is slow. I like that match-up better. No guarantees either way

  102. Grayfox3d on September 8th, 2014 9:53 pm

    lol, getting outplayed by a sub .500 team is always fun.

  103. bongo on September 8th, 2014 10:04 pm

    Here are the splits:
    http://www.baseballamerica.com/statistics/players/cards/2021/split
    Miller:
    http://www.baseballamerica.com/statistics/players/cards/84578/split

    Bottom line: Taylor outhits Miller against both lefties and righties, so a platoon makes no sense.

  104. Grayfox3d on September 8th, 2014 10:06 pm

    Either way, that RBI single by Brad probably earns him the start tomorrow.

  105. djw on September 8th, 2014 10:10 pm

    But your basing it on Taylor’s tiny-small sample size with an obviously unsustainable babip. Miller is a talented player who pulled himself out of an insanely huge slump; he’s been very hot lately, one the best hitters on the team in the last month and a half. A platoon makes good sense.

  106. Grayfox3d on September 8th, 2014 10:13 pm

    another 1 pitch easy out….

  107. JMB on September 8th, 2014 10:14 pm

    He walks!

  108. Section329 on September 8th, 2014 10:15 pm

    Wow, a walk by Mike.

  109. JMB on September 8th, 2014 10:15 pm

    I really thought he was going to swing at that 55-footer the second time.

  110. Westside guy on September 8th, 2014 10:21 pm

    So does it seem funny to anyone else that Zunino took a walk later in the same game he got hit? It’s almost like he’s aware of the whole walk/HBP/homer thing.

  111. JMB on September 8th, 2014 10:22 pm

    Speaking of, no Taylor on deck for Miller against a lefty?

  112. Grayfox3d on September 8th, 2014 10:23 pm

    Am I supposed to feel bad for Houston on that at bat? cuz that strike zone was trash.

  113. Longgeorge1 on September 8th, 2014 10:23 pm

    Would you double steal?

  114. JMB on September 8th, 2014 10:23 pm

    I like Miller, but I’d still pinch hit Taylor here.

  115. Longgeorge1 on September 8th, 2014 10:24 pm

    OK single steal

  116. Longgeorge1 on September 8th, 2014 10:25 pm

    Pinch hit now- can’t change pitcher?

  117. JMB on September 8th, 2014 10:25 pm

    C’mon fly ball!

  118. JMB on September 8th, 2014 10:26 pm

    YEEEEEEEAHHHH!

  119. Westside guy on September 8th, 2014 10:26 pm

    Jones does have one undeniable skill. 25 steals given his bad hitting and relatively short season is not too shabby.

  120. Grayfox3d on September 8th, 2014 10:27 pm

    BRAD F**KING MILLER!

  121. djw on September 8th, 2014 10:27 pm

    That’s the stuff right there. Crazy legs triple.

  122. Section329 on September 8th, 2014 10:27 pm

    Rad rules

  123. Westside guy on September 8th, 2014 10:27 pm

    YEAH!!!!!!

  124. Longgeorge1 on September 8th, 2014 10:27 pm

    I bow to Brad – Lloyd you are a genius

  125. californiamariner on September 8th, 2014 10:28 pm

    Yesss!!!! Brad Miller!!

  126. djw on September 8th, 2014 10:30 pm

    I especially appreciate Miller coming through after I defend him.

  127. Grayfox3d on September 8th, 2014 10:32 pm

    I know, im a huge Negative Nancy, and complainer, but I have no one to talk sports too down here in AZ living with my GF and 1 year old son lol, you guys are my only source of interaction.

  128. Grayfox3d on September 8th, 2014 10:33 pm

    I can probably safely say that Oakland is a pissed off bunch right now watching this game.

  129. Westside guy on September 8th, 2014 10:35 pm

    Grayfox comes here when he wants a break from baby talk! Hehe

    I remember those days…

  130. Grayfox3d on September 8th, 2014 10:35 pm

    Lol this is a big ass ball park Cano, that’s not going out here, but you gave it a nice ride.

  131. Sowulo on September 8th, 2014 10:36 pm

    That’s no excuse Grayfox. I live in China. At least where you live there are people who have heard of baseball…..

  132. Grayfox3d on September 8th, 2014 10:37 pm

    I’m teaching him how to cheer, he started copying me while watching the Seahawks game the other night.

  133. Longgeorge1 on September 8th, 2014 10:37 pm

    I like Billy (Martin) ball better than Billy (Bean)ball Ok I am a bad man. Anyway heard that Miller was getting reps at 1st and OF, could this roster take more of a National League look IF the M’s make the play-offs

  134. Grayfox3d on September 8th, 2014 10:38 pm

    That is true Sowulo, I do have one friend, he’s a twinkies fan, but we work differing schedules out at amazon, so we only get to chat sometimes.

  135. Longgeorge1 on September 8th, 2014 10:39 pm

    Time for the Jimi Hen…. no Fernando Rodney Experience

  136. djw on September 8th, 2014 10:41 pm

    Come on Rodney. It’s way past my bedtime.

  137. Grayfox3d on September 8th, 2014 10:42 pm

    at least the strike zone is consistent….trash.

  138. Longgeorge1 on September 8th, 2014 10:44 pm

    Hit Altuvie he is gonna get on let’s save time

  139. Grayfox3d on September 8th, 2014 10:47 pm

    How tall is Altuve? like 5’5″ lol he looks so tiny.

  140. r-gordon-7 on September 8th, 2014 10:52 pm

    Sowulo,where in China are you? My wife is from Beijing and on our last few trips there, I’ve tried to interest a friend’s young (3 year old) son in baseball, by bringing baseball related gifts (Mariners baby-sized jersey, Mariners “sponge” bat & whiffle ball, etc…) Who knows – maybe he’ll grow into the Mariners’ only from-birth Beijing-based fan.. ;-)

  141. Longgeorge1 on September 8th, 2014 10:53 pm

    Bezball be beddy beddy gud heh!

  142. djw on September 8th, 2014 10:53 pm

    Whew

  143. JMB on September 8th, 2014 10:53 pm

    Let me stand next to your fire.

  144. Grayfox3d on September 8th, 2014 10:54 pm

    Nice win guys! it was not pretty at all, and I would of loved to give Felix the W, but Ill take the win! And my oh my it’s so nice to see Saunders back out there! had a really good first game back with the club! good job tonight guys. Ill see you all tomorrow, thanks for letting me complain to all of you.

  145. Sowulo on September 8th, 2014 10:54 pm

    I live in Nanning. It is in southern Guangxi province very far from Beijing.

  146. djw on September 8th, 2014 10:55 pm

    Man, the Astros announcers have just been ripping on Seattle fans all game for not showing up. They have a point; what the hell? For a Felix night, playoff hunt game that crowd was sad.

  147. Westside guy on September 8th, 2014 10:56 pm

    15,617 official attendance.

  148. Longgeorge1 on September 8th, 2014 10:59 pm

    MNF?

  149. r-gordon-7 on September 8th, 2014 11:01 pm

    Sowulo, but Nanning has at least one Mariners fan – that’s probably no fewer than Beijing! ;-)

  150. The_Waco_Kid on September 8th, 2014 11:03 pm

    We’re closer than we were at this time in ’02 or ’03.

  151. Woodcutta on September 8th, 2014 11:04 pm

    Was it first day back to school in Washington today?

  152. JMB on September 8th, 2014 11:11 pm

    Possible. Growing up going to Seattle public schools we always started the Monday after Labor Day.

  153. Westside guy on September 8th, 2014 11:17 pm

    Many schools in the South Sound area started last Wednesday.

  154. Sowulo on September 8th, 2014 11:18 pm

    When I grew up in Seattle we always started school on the day after Labor Day. This year Seattle Public Schools started classes on Wednesday, the 3rd.

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