June 28, 2004 · Filed Under Mariners · Comments Off on  

I don’t think they’ll be trading for Brandon Inge any time soon — he’s on the 15-day DL with a broken finger. I don’t understand the negative sentiment, though. He’s a tremendous defensive catcher and was hitting .303/.374/.491 before hitting the DL.

June 28, 2004 · Filed Under Mariners · Comments Off on  

Nearly as positive news as the deal itself were Bavasi’s remarks in subsequent interviews. Talks of trusting the young pitching in the organization and spending heavily on offense during the offseason is exactly the blueprint this organization should follow. Rather than signing Ron Villone as a lefty reliever, give George Sherrill a chance, and invest the money saved into impact hitters which the organization does not possess. If the M’s really are going to give their crop of young hurlers a real opportunity in 2005, and are going to spend significant amounts of money to upgrade the offense, this team can contend next year. This does not have to be a long rebuilding process. Let’s hope this is just round one in the complete overhaul of the way this franchise assembles its rosters.

So, whats next? I’d expect Rich Aurilia, Ron Villone, and Mike Myers to all find themselves new homes within the next week or two. Clearly, the M’s are willing to make a deal now, rather than wait til the deadline, if they get a package in return that they like. Despite the rumors, I doubt Jamie Moyer gets moved. He has total control over his future, and at his age, I’d imagine stability is just as important to him as a chance to pitch for a contender, especially if he believes this team can contend in 2005. His contract is reasonable, so there is no rush to dump him before he becomes an albatross, as there is with Bret Boone. I’d imagine the club will find a taker for Boone at the deadline, though they may have to toss some more cash into the deal and be willing to accept little talent in return.

Spiezio has probably played himself out of any trade value, which is unfortunate. Stick him on waivers and see if someone bites. At this point, just clearing his roster space and dumping that contract would be a success.

I don’t expect Franklin to be traded, though I still think selling high would be a good idea here. The club lacks incentive to move him, since he is performing decently and relatively inexpensive. At this point, though, his value is as high as it will ever be, and fetching a midlevel prospect while clearing his salary off the ’05 books would be a wise transaction.

The Garcia trade was the big one that will actually bring talent in return. The rest of the moves will likely be contract dumps, bringing little more than longshot prospects or roster filler in return. But the more successful contract dumps this team can achieve, the more they will have to chase names like Garciaparra, Glaus, and Beltran during the offseason. Let’s hope most fans have the forsight to see that addition by subtraction is a wise strategy, and that the M’s continue along the path that they started blazing yesterday.

Oh, and for the love of God, please don’t trade for Brandon Inge.

June 28, 2004 · Filed Under Mariners · Comments Off on  

I don’t understand people who aren’t fully behind this trade. Here are the points to consider, as I see them:

  • Freddy Garcia is a free agent after this season. A free agent the M’s weren’t going to re-sign, as the sort of contract he’s going to be looking for is the type this organization doesn’t give out, almost as a rule. You can debate that stance if you want, but it has no bearing on whether or not the trade was a good one.
  • Freddy Garcia could have pitched a no-hitter in each of his remaining starts this season, and the M’s still wouldn’t be making the playoffs. Seriously. Suppose Garcia wins every start and the team splits the four games he doesn’t start. That’s .600 ball the rest of the season, good for roughly 83 wins. At least one of Texas, Anaheim and Oakland is going to win 90 games this season, and 83 doesn’t get you the wild card, either.
  • In addition to dumping a player (Ben Davis) who was never going to see the light of day with this organization ever again, the M’s got three players who can help at the major league level. One, Miguel Olivo, helps starting tomorrow. The second, Jeremy Reed, should help next season at the very latest. The third, Michael Morse, might not help for a few years, if at all — but even if he doesn’t, Olivo and Reed are more than fair compensation for a few months of Freddy Garcia.

    One more thing I thought of today — it’s really too bad Rafael Soriano isn’t healthy for all of this, because he probably would have taken Garica’s spot in the rotation, assuming he hadn’t already taken Meche’s.

    June 28, 2004 · Filed Under Mariners · Comments Off on  

    Something else about the Garcia deal: many people looking at this think “We gave up an ace pitcher for three guys I’ve never heard of” (which again, sort of true but not a meaningful statement). What that misses though is in viewing his career and glossing over the bad times, you miss that the chance Freddy’s going to continue to be this good is significant. His good year’s been Safeco-assisted, and everyone should face up to the fact that Freddy’s had some bad, bad times, and he’s not a sure thing to finish this season as a top 30 pitcher.

    If he does, it’s a good trade for the M’s.

    If he explodes and stinks it up the rest of the year, this is going to look like one of the great steals of the last couple years.

    June 28, 2004 · Filed Under Mariners · Comments Off on  

    To immediately dip into rumor-swapping after that post on why we’ve avoided doing so: word on the street is the M’s were totally after Reed in their discussions with the White Sox, and reports the contrary probably arise out of discussions the teams had that involved Reed+Crede. So back to cheering for the trade.

    Seriously: good job, team.

    June 27, 2004 · Filed Under Mariners · Comments Off on  

    Crede over Reed? Well, I guess Bavasi was serious about not knowing what to make of minor league statistics or… that’s a baaaaaaaaaaad sign.

    Next up: Moyer to NYY? New York’s always whining about not having enough left-handed starters, it’s been particularly bad with Pettitte gone while their rotation hasn’t been Yankee-quality, and Moyer’s contract, while a little expensive, isn’t so bad. Maybe Bavasi gets the long-desired Contreras that way.

    June 27, 2004 · Filed Under Mariners · Comments Off on  

    The Chicago Tribune is reporting that the White Sox only agreed to this deal when Bavasi agreed to take Jeremy Reed instead of… drumroll please… 3B Joe Crede. Crede’s 26 with a .261/.305/.444 career line, a poor walk rate and decent power.

    Crede’s not a bad player, per se, but he’s about to get more expensive via arbitration and the M’s have three players in their farm system — Justin Leone, Greg Dobbs, Jose Lopez — who can do about the same for cheaper, whereas Reed, the outfielder, fills a much bigger need.

    So, lucky break there, I guess.

    June 27, 2004 · Filed Under Mariners · Comments Off on  

    Well, this is kind of cool.

    The M’s actually signed somebody at one of their tryout camps — John Austin Emmons wowed them enough at Wolff Stadium (home of the San Antonio Missions) to earn a contract. He’s off to the Arizona rookie league.

    June 27, 2004 · Filed Under Mariners · Comments Off on  

    A friend just passed along via email that today is the 5th anniversary of the last game at the Kingdome. Last M’s game, of course; I don’t care that the Seahawks played there later on.

    June 27, 2004 · Filed Under Mariners · Comments Off on  

    Bavasi was not playing dumb. I’m sorry. This was a great move, but there is no way that Bavasi spent so much money this off-season, made so many moves so badly without believing that it was the right thing to do to win the division.

    Now, whether they had a plan of “buy these guys for maximum puntage in case of possible failure”… no. I’m sorry, but no. The buy-low sell-high strategy requires you to buy low. If this was their strategy they’d have stuck with Guillen, who had far more upside and was more desirable to other teams if he performed (cheaper+younger) than Aurilia. The guys you want to bring in with that strategy are below-market gambles. Take Guardado: sure, he’s a relief pitcher, closer, decent contract. Sure, you could make an argument that there’s a decent compete-or-punt guy. But by and large, the guys Bavasi brought in were old, not the kind of players competitors would be looking for even if they were having hot seasons (the good Spiezio, which we haven’t seen, only really fits a need for many of those teams if they suffer nasty injuries they can’t patch internally, and then wouldn’t net much in trade).

    The other side to this theory is that Bavasi’s been playing dumb all along so that he could seem to want to continue competing and force a high price for Freddy, because competent GMs demand more in trades. That’s just silly. Take Beane. Beane’s known as a hawk on the phone, eager to work three way trades or do whatever it takes to make a deal work out. His team doesn’t trade with a couple GMs because… well, every club tends to have a couple of “friendly” franchises that share ideas and trade more easily with, and other franchises they don’t get along with. There’s a whole other thing behind that, but anyway…

    Beane makes trades. Teams don’t block his calls because he’s a gregarious guy who’ll sniff around rumors and talk to you about outlandish deals in order. This is true of every GM: being dumb may get you more calls (just like the dumb GMs in fantasy leagues get pestered with awful trade offers in the hopes they’ll bite) but it doesn’t hamper or help your ability to talk to and trade with other teams.

    And to the possibility of it being a strategy: every game the team loses costs them $1m. Not today, and maybe not tomorrow, and maybe if the fans keep coming out to see the team make Adam Eaton look like an ace it won’t make that big of a difference. But Guillen-for-Aurilia? Assuming the two players would have similar levels of performance in Hypothetical World as they do today, that’s three games Bavasi punted *so far this season* just on that move as supporting evidence for a grand scheme to make himself look dumb for no gain. It certainly worked. Spiezio over one of the better free agent 3B is probably two games… and so on.

    No GM in baseball intentionally makes bad moves for the sake of making a bad move. Every move has enough potential to go bad on its own. No GM reached their position without being super-competitive, and no GM looks at a loss as getting closer to a goal, because their goal, all of them, is to field winning ball clubs. Even moves that look like they’re intended to lose games, like trading a pitcher for prospects, are designed to make the team better in the long term. The M’s don’t have Jacobsen in AAA when he could help here because they don’t want that marginal advantage: they don’t agree with us that he would help at all.

    There is no way — none — that Bavasi sat down this off-season and thought “I’ve been given the helm of a 90-win club, Raul Ibanez is all but signed, and I have many millions to play with. What I should do is reaaaaally mess things up so it’s easier to clean it up.”

    I have no doubt that Bavasi, while scratching his head wondering how this team went off the rails so badly, was honestly and sincerely pained every time he had to watch them play.

    Say it’s true, though. Gig’s up, isn’t it. He’d have burned this season in order to make one good trade, after which everyone wakes up and now he can’t make trade because smart GMs can’t make deals (which is why he was pretending to be dumb). No player is worth that, no prospect is worth that (and I’m a Jeremy Reed fan. I celebrate his entire catalogue). No two prospects are worth it.

    The problem with this theory is that it sort of fits today and sort of fits in retrospect, and it’s nice to believe that there was a plan. But doesn’t really fit with “They had a terrible off-season following their plan and now, having abandoned it, have made a great move that gives us hope that maybe they have a better plan or at least learned something.”

    There’s cause for optimism in the second, plus it’s true. The simplest explanation fits best, and I think it’s the most hopeful, because the hypothetical pretend-village-idiot theory carries a lot of strange implciations.

    And man, if Bavasi’s really on the ball, this shouldn’t be the end. I’m hoping for a full Dave-advocated team blowing, followed by intelligent acquisitions on the free agent front in the off-season.

    Something else: we haven’t been spreading rumors. This isn’t because we’ve suddenly become adverse to it (when I asked the question of spread/no spreading a couple months back, readers who wrote in were universally in favor of us posting them if we had them). It’s because one of the things that’s happened this year is the front office has fractured. Dave and I, for instance, might hear two wildly divergent stories about the M’s doing something with prospect A, both from credible sources. And then nothing happens. After that happened a couple of times, I became really shy about posting anything, because what’t the point?

    Before this season, I felt like if I heard “Borders to the Yankees for Luis Sojo” I could run with it.

    Now I have to hear that and be able to get someone else in another front office to confirm it, and then all I know is that someone in our front office was discussing it, possibly without the blessing of Bavasi.

    Not that I knew about this. I hadn’t heard anything until it went down, and the earliest email I got (because I was at the game) was ~30m before it happened.

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